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01-26-2004, 08:07 PM

NetRodent posted some info so I did some checking to see what came up. If the tell is ISPS * SITE vs SITE * ISPS on the billing indicator.

Sponsors that seem ok:
PlatinumBucks, TopBucks, SilverCash, Python, Pornkings, Flashcash, MaxCash
examples:
PAYCOM.NET *WBSITE (pornkings)
PAYCOM.NET *LYDATA (Python)
CCBill.com *Offendale Co (MaxCash)

Sponsors that may not be:
CEN, ARS, WEG
NETMGT *PAYCOM.NET (CEN)
ASKCS.COM *IBILL (ARS)
WEG*Jetchrg.com (WEG)

What does this mean exactly ? If this is an accurate indicator of trouble or anything, what can be done to lower the overall CB ratio ? How much time is given to work in improving this ?

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01-26-2004, 08:09 PM

I do not think this is accurate. Also not sure billing descriptors have been changed yet for all offenders.

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01-26-2004, 08:11 PM

Originally posted by BradShaw
I do not think this is accurate. Also not sure billing descriptors have been changed yet for all offenders.

Thanks for clarifying.

If you don't mind, what about the other questions ? Do you have any ideas on what can be done to help improve this situation at this stage ?

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01-26-2004, 08:17 PM

I have asked for an exact copy of the rules several times. Never got a stright up answer. From what I understand, you are on "warning" for 3 months, then you start getting fined, if after 3 more months (total of 6) you are not under 1%, you are done.

Everyone that is over 1% knows why they are over 1%. Buying too many crosses, or deceptive billing in 99% of the cases I bet. It takes months to turn the tide and get under 1%, took us 3 + months to recover from buying cross sells.

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01-26-2004, 08:19 PM

Intresting..but speculation

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01-26-2004, 08:22 PM

I dont think that is accurate with the billing descriptors..

I heard a lot of peeps are in trouble with this..
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01-26-2004, 08:26 PM

Originally posted by BradShaw
I have asked for an exact copy of the rules several times. Never got a stright up answer.

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01-26-2004, 09:55 PM

is any sponsors here actually over the 1% ?
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01-26-2004, 09:57 PM

without saying exactly where our percentage is..I can tell you that we are well under the 1% threshold and will remain there.
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01-26-2004, 10:00 PM

Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
is any sponsors here actually over the 1% ?

I doubt they would admit it if they were

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01-26-2004, 10:06 PM

Originally posted by ElvisManson
without saying exactly where our percentage is..I can tell you that we are well under the 1% threshold and will remain there.

good to hear bro.

hopefully others are in good shape and have plans in motion too.

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01-26-2004, 10:08 PM

Python rocks.

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01-26-2004, 10:47 PM

No cross sales, accurate customer support (never rely on the shitty aggregator's suppor), and no deceptive billing and it's easy to be less than 1%.

I used to have major problems, but it was a result of relying on a 3rd party processor to handle support, as if they can do anything other than say 'would you like a refund'?

I don't understand why people still use them.. they're such a fucking waste. I only use them for recurring/sending enough sales to let the recurs trickle out w/o driving up ratio..
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01-26-2004, 10:51 PM

Originally posted by Donnie Gangsta
No cross sales, accurate customer support (never rely on the shitty aggregator's suppor), and no deceptive billing and it's easy to be less than 1%.

I used to have major problems, but it was a result of relying on a 3rd party processor to handle support, as if they can do anything other than say 'would you like a refund'?

I don't understand why people still use them.. they're such a fucking waste. I only use them for recurring/sending enough sales to let the recurs trickle out w/o driving up ratio..

Donnie, are you using your own merchant account(s) ? Who did you get them through ?

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01-26-2004, 10:51 PM

1 to 5 dollar programs Brujah is one way.
Another way I think will be to eliminate cross sales.

Yet the faithful Keep a quality site for an affordable price theory is still the strong theory.

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01-26-2004, 10:52 PM

Originally posted by Donnie Gangsta
No cross sales, accurate customer support (never rely on the shitty aggregator's suppor), and no deceptive billing and it's easy to be less than 1%.

I used to have major problems, but it was a result of relying on a 3rd party processor to handle support, as if they can do anything other than say 'would you like a refund'?

I don't understand why people still use them.. they're such a fucking waste. I only use them for recurring/sending enough sales to let the recurs trickle out w/o driving up ratio..

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01-26-2004, 11:02 PM

Originally posted by Donnie Gangsta
No cross sales, accurate customer support (never rely on the shitty aggregator's suppor), and no deceptive billing and it's easy to be less than 1%.

I used to have major problems, but it was a result of relying on a 3rd party processor to handle support, as if they can do anything other than say 'would you like a refund'?

I don't understand why people still use them.. they're such a fucking waste. I only use them for recurring/sending enough sales to let the recurs trickle out w/o driving up ratio..

Good advice thanks
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01-26-2004, 11:23 PM

Originally posted by Brujah

Donnie, are you using your own merchant account(s) ? Who did you get them through ?

www.credomatic.com is one place..
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01-27-2004, 12:03 AM

good advice atho I dont really think IBILL is having any problems they have a bigger bankroll than any other billing company out there.

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01-27-2004, 07:05 AM

Originally posted by Donnie Gangsta
No cross sales, accurate customer support (never rely on the shitty aggregator's suppor), and no deceptive billing and it's easy to be less than 1%.

I used to have major problems, but it was a result of relying on a 3rd party processor to handle support, as if they can do anything other than say 'would you like a refund'?

I don't understand why people still use them.. they're such a fucking waste. I only use them for recurring/sending enough sales to let the recurs trickle out w/o driving up ratio..

Have you noticed any sales increases due to less scrubbing?
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01-27-2004, 02:07 PM

Originally posted by WiredGuy

Have you noticed any sales increases due to less scrubbing?
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01-27-2004, 02:58 PM

Thats some interesting Digging up of information.

Platinum Bucks is definately under 1%

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01-28-2004, 10:24 PM

Originally posted by Donnie Gangsta
No cross sales, accurate customer support (never rely on the shitty aggregator's suppor), and no deceptive billing and it's easy to be less than 1%.

I used to have major problems, but it was a result of relying on a 3rd party processor to handle support, as if they can do anything other than say 'would you like a refund'?

I don't understand why people still use them.. they're such a fucking waste. I only use them for recurring/sending enough sales to let the recurs trickle out w/o driving up ratio..

Who do you use now for processing and customer service?

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