Is it a good idea to make content on a paysite undownloadable?

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  • Quotealex
    Confirmed User
    • Sep 2001
    • 6265

    #1

    Is it a good idea to make content on a paysite undownloadable?

    Sure there will be some surfers that will find a way to save the content. But in general, is good for business to make the content on a paysite very hard for them to download it? The last thing I want is for surfers to save my content on their computer.
  • stocktrader23
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    • Jan 2003
    • 18781

    #2
    Originally posted by Alex from Montreal
    The last thing I want is for surfers to save my content on their computer.
    Why?


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    • Manowar
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      • Dec 2003
      • 71528

      #3
      Originally posted by stocktrader23


      Why?
      hes probably worried about people downloading it all then sharing it on p2p or cancelling their subscriptions after downloading all the content

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      • lennox
        Registered User
        • Jan 2004
        • 144

        #4
        Originally posted by Manowar


        hes probably worried about people downloading it all then sharing it on p2p or cancelling their subscriptions after downloading all the content
        reguardless of the setup, this can and will be done no matter what you do. the only solution to this type of "ripping" is by having daily download limits (I believe Pennywize has that option)

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        • mistersoft
          Confirmed User
          • Jun 2003
          • 1021

          #5
          I wouldn't join a site like that.
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          • Trax
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            • Aug 2001
            • 14486

            #6
            Originally posted by lennox


            reguardless of the setup, this can and will be done no matter what you do. the only solution to this type of "ripping" is by having daily download limits (I believe Pennywize has that option)
            lol
            what will it change??
            then he buys a full month membership with a stolen card and download all your shit over a week
            no difference
            will only kill rebills

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            • lennox
              Registered User
              • Jan 2004
              • 144

              #7
              Originally posted by Trax


              lol
              what will it change??
              then he buys a full month membership with a stolen card and download all your shit over a week
              no difference
              will only kill rebills
              now you are getting into credit card fraud, stay on track.

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              • Doctor Dre
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Jan 2001
                • 51692

                #8
                Well I think surfers that really like your site wouldn't be able to use the softwares that eat all your site . That will probably save you BW
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                • Tipsy
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jul 2001
                  • 6989

                  #9
                  Whatever the arguments for mistersoft summed it up...

                  I'd never join a site like that and if I did by mistake would cancel very quickly. Streaming stuff is a pain in the ass especially when you're feeling horny. You want stuff you can download and (once downloaded) view there and then when you dick's out and your trousers are down by your ankles. Having the ISP or Internet traffic make the streaming (if you were using it) stop and start every few seconds stops Mr Pinky being hard and happy!
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                  • tootie
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 6041

                    #10
                    I would never do that to my members. If I joined a site like that I'd cancel in a heartbeat, and I've been in this business for about 7 years now. I know content costs alot of money to buy and produce and I know it sucks to waste bandwidth and get cancellations from the leeches, but I'd much rather waste some bandwidth on a few leeches than piss off ALL of my valuable recurring members. That's just my opinion, though. There are two sides to the story and I understand that.


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                    • Rictor
                      Old Timer
                      • Jan 2001
                      • 12208

                      #11
                      Watermark all your content with your url. Then if they trade it, free advertising.

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                      • Rick Latona
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                        • Dec 2002
                        • 6037

                        #12
                        If you make it downloadable you better make sure that it is protected via DRM (Digital Rights Management).
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                        • Olivier
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                          • Mar 2003
                          • 656

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Tipsy
                          Whatever the arguments for mistersoft summed it up...

                          I'd never join a site like that and if I did by mistake would cancel very quickly. Streaming stuff is a pain in the ass especially when you're feeling horny. You want stuff you can download and (once downloaded) view there and then when you dick's out and your trousers are down by your ankles. Having the ISP or Internet traffic make the streaming (if you were using it) stop and start every few seconds stops Mr Pinky being hard and happy!
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                          • emmanuelle
                            Confirmed User
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 3662

                            #14
                            I think that's covered in "How to piss off your customers 101"

                            Your paying members have paid for the pics, they're stored in their cache anyway. Why punish them? Rebills are how you eat, and irritating your members will leave you hungry

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                            • doober
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 6984

                              #15
                              Originally posted by mistersoft
                              I wouldn't join a site like that.
                              Originally posted by Rictor
                              Watermark all your content with your url. Then if they trade it, free advertising.

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                              • DVTimes
                                xxx
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 31650

                                #16
                                I would say, that people join pay sites in order to 'own' the content. I will save pics all the time, often not looking at the pic at all, but its fun to know I have it.

                                If I joined a site that did not let me save pics, then would soon cancel. But often you can find ways around it. At worse, you just get a art package that will do screen saves, then crop the pic.

                                It would be like paying for a TV station, then finding I could not record a film from it.

                                The simple option is put your web address on all your pics. if someone does post them, then its great advertising.
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                                • Kimmykim
                                  bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                  • Jun 2001
                                  • 16015

                                  #17
                                  Why not use a DRM solution that de-activates the content when their membership runs out?

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                                  • StuartD
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                                    • Jul 2002
                                    • 29903

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                    Why not use a DRM solution that de-activates the content when their membership runs out?
                                    Hey, you got to it before I could. That's what I was gonna say.
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                                    • Morgan
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • May 2002
                                      • 10520

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                      Why not use a DRM solution that de-activates the content when their membership runs out?
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                                      • emmanuelle
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Mar 2003
                                        • 3662

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                        Why not use a DRM solution that de-activates the content when their membership runs out?
                                        DRM isn't an entry level solution.

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                                        • 404
                                          Confirmed abUser
                                          • Jun 2003
                                          • 1154

                                          #21
                                          i'm not sure how they do it but this paysite stores their movies AND images in wmv format that only works on one computer

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                                          • Quotealex
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Sep 2001
                                            • 6265

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                            Why not use a DRM solution that de-activates the content when their membership runs out?
                                            Seems like a good alternative.

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                                            • Quotealex
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Sep 2001
                                              • 6265

                                              #23
                                              But I really don't like the idea of paying $15,000+ to build a paysite so that some joe can donwload all my content just because he paid $15-$30 to join my site!

                                              Plus, some girls will be complaining that their pics/videos are all over the internet and because this they are upsetting their boyfriend, familly and friends!

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                                              • latinasojourn
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Oct 2003
                                                • 3191

                                                #24
                                                unfortunately it's a trade-off either way.

                                                surfers want to save the stuff they like on their HD.

                                                and you will have surfers posting your good stuff on usenet, whether you like it or not.

                                                best compromise probably is put a small watermark on your original stuff. so at least if it's posted or hot linked you'll get some action on it.

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                                                • Kimmykim
                                                  bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                  • 16015

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by emmanuelle


                                                  DRM isn't an entry level solution.
                                                  Of course it is, you just have to find a provider that works based on a percentage of sales, not a flat fee upfront.

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