i have tried some pushing some exclusive content sites on revshare and the percentage of trial to full is not that great.Paysites should not give access to the whole site on a trial, but instead only give a couple of scenes and force the surfer to upgrade to a monthly membership to see the entire site.Surfers cancel because usally after three days they have seen everything on the site. A month will give the surfer at least 4 updates to look forward to so he would be less likely to cancel
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My best recuring sites use the method.Originally posted by bigdog
i have tried some pushing some exclusive content sites on revshare and the percentage of trial to full is not that great.Paysites should not give access to the whole site on a trial, but instead only give a couple of scenes and force the surfer to upgrade to a monthly membership to see the entire site.Surfers cancel because usally after three days they have seen everything on the site. A month will give the surfer at least 4 updates to look forward to so he would be less likely to cancelComment
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If you satisfy the surfer he'll leave, just give it to him in bits and pieces
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If you read any of Marc De's recent stuff... it looks like the OLD PPS models will be going BYE BYE soon
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Or they should do away with the trial.Originally posted by bigdog
i have tried some pushing some exclusive content sites on revshare and the percentage of trial to full is not that great.Paysites should not give access to the whole site on a trial, but instead only give a couple of scenes and force the surfer to upgrade to a monthly membership to see the entire site.Surfers cancel because usally after three days they have seen everything on the site. A month will give the surfer at least 4 updates to look forward to so he would be less likely to cancelAdult Comics Club - Updated Bi-Daily. 60% Recurring Payouts. Exclusive Comic Content.Comment
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if anyone wants to try what is being talked about above...
You can use Updatem to preschedule updates to your members on a per-user basis (members can be on different updates).Comment
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i know that http://www.socalcash.com/ does not give surfers access to the whole site on trialsComment
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I agree which is why the episodic (sp?) model works best with exclusive content -
Like Survivor - they keep coming back to see what is going to happen next. Doesn't have to be reality - Soap Operas work the same way, and taking a point from the story development is not so much required as long as there is a cliff hanger. Always leave them wanting more
The sites we have done that way are showing an a low average of 5.2 months (mostly because customer stopped production) to as high as 9.4 months (keep producing weekly- they keep coming back).
Biz 101 - its easier to keep a customer then to get a new one.
Episodic, Reality - it all means the same thing - $$$SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.Comment
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Why on earth offer a trial on Exclusive stuff, we have some new sites coming out shortly some using exclusive some using normal hardcore content and all will sell kickass with no trails just $24.95-$29.95 straight up, trails are not nessesary on sites that sell awesome. You make more money without trials as well and so do affilates. signup 100 $4.95 trials and have them convert at 30-50% to full month and you aren't going to make as much as 80 full month $29.95 memberships you'd normally sell.
Each to their own of course, if it works for you all power to you.
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I've seen a few (very few) sites that do a weekly episode type content, but what happens if you start going into a story that many of your members don't like for weeks on end? Assuming that is you're only doing one storyline at a time.Originally posted by Azure Sales
I agree which is why the episodic (sp?) model works best with exclusive content -
Like Survivor - they keep coming back to see what is going to happen next. Doesn't have to be reality - Soap Operas work the same way, and taking a point from the story development is not so much required as long as there is a cliff hanger. Always leave them wanting more
The sites we have done that way are showing an a low average of 5.2 months (mostly because customer stopped production) to as high as 9.4 months (keep producing weekly- they keep coming back).
Biz 101 - its easier to keep a customer then to get a new one.
Episodic, Reality - it all means the same thing - $$$Adult Comics Club - Updated Bi-Daily. 60% Recurring Payouts. Exclusive Comic Content.Comment
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Yep, if you can't make money on a no-trials exclusive paysite, just close it, case closed.
If you can't pony up $24.95 at least at my sites, you can't join, period. Less chargebacks and complaints, too.I have no signatureComment
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The key is no trials... I haven't used trials in 2 yrs! Then again my sites are the exception to most of the shit out there... when a customer joins, they don't want to see feeds, jokes, outdated 80's content or crap like that. Give your surfer decent content at a resonable price. I'm going back to sleep
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Everyone thinks the mere fact that content is exclusive means it will work.
Well the reality is non-exclusive good content will get the surfer jerking off quicker than exclusive bad content. Too many buy exclusive purely on price and are left buying from guys who can't produce the goods to a level that will turn a surfer into a member or a trial into a sign up.
Look for porn quality first and think about what you are getting not what you are paying.Comment
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why the hell do you have popups to nastydollars sites on your site *geared towards webmasters looking for content*?Originally posted by Azure Sales
I agree which is why the episodic (sp?) model works best with exclusive content -
Like Survivor - they keep coming back to see what is going to happen next. Doesn't have to be reality - Soap Operas work the same way, and taking a point from the story development is not so much required as long as there is a cliff hanger. Always leave them wanting more
The sites we have done that way are showing an a low average of 5.2 months (mostly because customer stopped production) to as high as 9.4 months (keep producing weekly- they keep coming back).
Biz 101 - its easier to keep a customer then to get a new one.
Episodic, Reality - it all means the same thing - $$$
who is your target audience?
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No trials
Excellent quality exclusive content
$29.95 a month
I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
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Originally posted by Dveron
Or they should do away with the trial.Comment
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One simple option is to use AVS systems for your trial.
Many webmasters use Proadult (see link below) as they can put a set of pics on ProAdults system, so they are not even using there webspace but ProAdults.
It works great in many ways:
(1) You will get tons of free traffic without having to do anything as ProAdult sites get many hits.
(2) You may even make some cash just from people joining your Proadult site.
(3) It costs nothing to set up a ProAdult site, except an hour or so developing it.Comment
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Originally posted by Dveron
Or they should do away with the trial.
yeah but for most sites you will get a lot more sales with at least a trial,and you also have the email of a guy who is willing to purchase porn.Just don't give away your whole site on trial.If you have 30 epsiodes give away two on a trial membership and then you just have a one click thingy on the site to automatically upgrade to the monthly membership.Last edited by bigdog; 01-26-2004, 07:24 AM.Comment
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we sell full memberships to sites like www.willshegag.com
www.nightmov.com and our others. No need to offer a trial, quality porn will keep them jerking for months.Telegram PhoenixBrad
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Nightmov.com LOL
There is copying and then there is COPYING!
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i know that shit is sad even the fucking nameOriginally posted by Driven
Nightmov.com LOL
There is copying and then there is COPYING!
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IMHO you need exclusive updated atleast 3 times a month, give access to numerous exclusive sites with staggered updates, so surfer gets new stuff daily. Also, a ton of other filler content and movies never hurts.Sig too big
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ok
tell me how socalcash is doing this trial / fullmembers thing
i am very interested... tell me more
scripts
costs
whateverComment
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I can't comment on this as I'm biased towards exclusive content for obvious reasons...
As a surfer, however, I'll waste no money on a site which "boasts" content easily downloadable from KaZaa [or any other free service].Selling MedicalPorn,com and a dozen other gyno & doctor domains here:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=871984Comment
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That's why live cam sites will get bigger as more people get broadband. You can't chat and interact with live girls on kazaaOriginally posted by KraZ
I can't comment on this as I'm biased towards exclusive content for obvious reasons...
As a surfer, however, I'll waste no money on a site which "boasts" content easily downloadable from KaZaa [or any other free service].Comment
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Trials with 100% exclusive???
See sig...Comment
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That's exactly what I mean - exclusive content in reality shows and live cam sites seem to be better suited to the P2P world we're living in.Originally posted by bigdog
That's why live cam sites will get bigger as more people get broadband. You can't chat and interact with live girls on kazaaSelling MedicalPorn,com and a dozen other gyno & doctor domains here:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=871984Comment
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Actually, most trials are cancelled within a few seconds of signing up before the surfer even takes a look at the members area. Surfers abuse the paysite trial system, this is a fact. The idea that the surfer will see how great your members area is and not cancel is a bit of a myth. It's more likely they forgot to cancel.Originally posted by bigdog
i have tried some pushing some exclusive content sites on revshare and the percentage of trial to full is not that great.Paysites should not give access to the whole site on a trial, but instead only give a couple of scenes and force the surfer to upgrade to a monthly membership to see the entire site.Surfers cancel because usally after three days they have seen everything on the site. A month will give the surfer at least 4 updates to look forward to so he would be less likely to cancelComment
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Oh, and then there's the surfers that sign up for a trial every few weeks because it's cheaper than a monthly membership. Obviously, they like the site because they keep coming back, but they're cheap.Comment
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That is why you make it as interactive as possible..... see American Idol.....Originally posted by Dveron
I've seen a few (very few) sites that do a weekly episode type content, but what happens if you start going into a story that many of your members don't like for weeks on end? Assuming that is you're only doing one storyline at a time.SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.Comment
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