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  • Shap
    Confirmed User
    • May 2001
    • 8313
    #1

    How well do you retain?

    Hi guys. I've always wondered what is good retention from month 1 to month 2 on non trial sites. We charge $19.95 and retain 43% of our members from initial signup to month 2 (we have no trials). Our retention has been between 41% and 43% month in and month out for 3 years now. What about you guys? Quiet how is yours?
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    • johndoebob
      Confirmed User
      • Mar 2004
      • 3405
      #2
      How much chargeback percents do you have and within what kind of time period?The chargebacks at my rev share sponsors are mostly made within a week.

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        • Shap
          Confirmed User
          • May 2001
          • 8313
          #3
          Our chargeback ratio is currently 0.19% No wonder ibill was so nice to us

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            • Paraskass
              Confirmed User
              • May 2002
              • 5829
              #4
              I retain not bad.
              Normally I have to piss once or twice a day.

              Maybe 3.

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                • bigdog
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jul 2001
                  • 6964
                  #5
                  what is your average conversion with tgp with the monthly membership?

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                    • Shap
                      Confirmed User
                      • May 2001
                      • 8313
                      #6
                      For the last three months our hosted galleries have converted at 1:540. I really don't know if that is good or bad. I've always heard people claim to convert 1:70 or 1:250 or whatever. Ours is 1:540 and that is on actual hits sent (not counting 2nd page in etc).

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                        • bigdog
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jul 2001
                          • 6964
                          #7
                          Originally posted by shap
                          For the last three months our hosted galleries have converted at 1:540. I really don't know if that is good or bad. I've always heard people claim to convert 1:70 or 1:250 or whatever. Ours is 1:540 and that is on actual hits sent (not counting 2nd page in etc).
                          i would think thats not bad since you hosted galleries proably have a higher then average clickthrough

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                            • Shap
                              Confirmed User
                              • May 2001
                              • 8313
                              #8
                              I hope it's good. We usually spend alot of time on our galleries. Instead of pounding out gallery after gallery that doesn't convert we take the time to make sure each and every gallery is fine tuned to convert like crazy. Every detail counts, the wording on the gallery, the thumbnails, the image selection etc.
                              Last edited by Shap; 08-28-2004, 05:09 PM.

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                                • johndoebob
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Mar 2004
                                  • 3405
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by shap
                                  For the last three months our hosted galleries have converted at 1:540. I really don't know if that is good or bad. I've always heard people claim to convert 1:70 or 1:250 or whatever. Ours is 1:540 and that is on actual hits sent (not counting 2nd page in etc).
                                  1:70 is only possible through 2nd page hits, luck on less traffic or simply a lie.Also many sponsors count only half of the clicks or less and you never know whats really counted. 1:540 is totally ok, with ccBill you can get easily over 1:1000.

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                                    • Doctor Dre
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Jan 2001
                                      • 51692
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by shap
                                      For the last three months our hosted galleries have converted at 1:540. I really don't know if that is good or bad. I've always heard people claim to convert 1:70 or 1:250 or whatever. Ours is 1:540 and that is on actual hits sent (not counting 2nd page in etc).
                                      That's not bad since it's hosted galleries ... you should checkout braincash's hosted galleries they kickass ... very good example
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                                        • bigdog
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jul 2001
                                          • 6964
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by shap
                                          I hope it's good. We usually spend alot of time on our galleries. Instead of pounding out gallery after gallery that doesn't convert we take the time to make sure each and every gallery is fine tuned to convert like crazy. Every detail counts, the wording on the gallery, the thumbnails, the image selection etc.
                                          It's sad most sponsor don't do that. Most of the sponsor hosted galleries look like shit

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                                            • Shap
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • May 2001
                                              • 8313
                                              #12
                                              It's the common Quantity over Quality mindset. It's surprising because it is your one chance to grab the surfer's attention. Why waste it with an ugly gallery that has terrible thumbs?

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                                                • magnatique
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                  • 1830
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by Doctor Dre
                                                  That's not bad since it's hosted galleries ... you should checkout braincash's hosted galleries they kickass ... very good example
                                                  Shap doesn't need to check other people's galleries, in fact, not to take anything away from braincash (they rock) but they probably took some tips from shap's galleries over the years LOL

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                                                    • Shap
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • May 2001
                                                      • 8313
                                                      #14
                                                      Thanks Bro

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                                                        • Tala
                                                          Fucked if I know
                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                          • 23368
                                                          #15
                                                          I retain like a bitch...but so does the Hoover dam.

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                                                            • J.R.
                                                              WantBoobs.com
                                                              • Feb 2002
                                                              • 3478
                                                              #16
                                                              Shap..

                                                              we are about the same, up and down at times
                                                              but very consistent.

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                                                                • bigdog
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                  • 6964
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Shap have you tried charging $29.99 to see if it affects conversions?

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                                                                    • SixNine
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                      • 1357
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Shap,
                                                                      Speaking of retain...
                                                                      Do you still run sexape.com?

                                                                      I was digging through all of our returned
                                                                      checks and... you might want to get in touch with me regarding an incorrect address.

                                                                      SixNine

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                                                                        • Shap
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • May 2001
                                                                          • 8313
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Hey dude. Yep that's us. How do i contact you?

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                                                                            • Steve
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Feb 2001
                                                                              • 6894
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Shap's stuff rocks. I have GOT to get your stuff into the new perm database ASAP.

                                                                              The man knows how to sell on galleries. His hosted stuff is top notch.

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                                                                                • Shap
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • May 2001
                                                                                  • 8313
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Thanks Steve ;)

                                                                                  Hey Sixnine I just checked you are right, the second line of our address is missing. I'm going to drop you an email tomorrow to get this fixed.

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                                                                                    • Shap
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • May 2001
                                                                                      • 8313
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      I'm surprised that not more people responded to this. Everybody is willing to post their affiliates #s but not their retention.

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                                                                                        • TheWildcard
                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                          • Jun 2004
                                                                                          • 4759
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          no

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                                                                                            • FlyingIguana
                                                                                              aspiring banker
                                                                                              • Mar 2002
                                                                                              • 10870
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by shap
                                                                                              For the last three months our hosted galleries have converted at 1:540. I really don't know if that is good or bad. I've always heard people claim to convert 1:70 or 1:250 or whatever. Ours is 1:540 and that is on actual hits sent (not counting 2nd page in etc).
                                                                                              1:500 is about avg, but it depends on ctr. so what really matters is sign ups per gallery impressions.

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                                                                                                • FlyingIguana
                                                                                                  aspiring banker
                                                                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                                                                  • 10870
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by shap
                                                                                                  I'm surprised that not more people responded to this. Everybody is willing to post their affiliates #s but not their retention.
                                                                                                  because most sites suck or charge too much, so their retention is horrible

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                                                                                                    • Shap
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • May 2001
                                                                                                      • 8313
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      I agree 100%. That is a number I watch closely. Our click thru around 3% and our sales per hits to the gallery is 1 sale per 17,000 hits to the gallery.

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                                                                                                        • vitty
                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                                                                          • 133
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by Paraskass
                                                                                                          I retain not bad.
                                                                                                          Normally I have to piss once or twice a day.

                                                                                                          Maybe 3.
                                                                                                          I have something like that

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                                                                                                            • exposed
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                                                                              • 1449
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by shap
                                                                                                              Our chargeback ratio is currently 0.19% No wonder ibill was so nice to us
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                                                                                                                • FlyingIguana
                                                                                                                  aspiring banker
                                                                                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                  • 10870
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by shap
                                                                                                                  I agree 100%. That is a number I watch closely. Our click thru around 3% and our sales per hits to the gallery is 1 sale per 17,000 hits to the gallery.
                                                                                                                  thats a good number, under 1:25k is above avg with under 1:5k being cash cow.

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                                                                                                                    • Shap
                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                      • May 2001
                                                                                                                      • 8313
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Yeah I hear you FlyingIguana. Our site isn't geared to bang out sales like some "reality" sites. We try to give our surfers a taste of what they'll get inside. That way once they join they are happy and stay a member for an extended period. Making webmasters money long after they've sent the sale. Another bonus is having a member's area that has more than 200 gigs of content and growing daily. Good luck to any surfer trying to download our entire collection

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                                                                                                                        • Shap
                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                          • May 2001
                                                                                                                          • 8313
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          For those wondering why I'd post our retention and conversion numbers here's your answer. Whether our numbers are good or bad we are always upfront with our webmasters and surfers. We are honest with everything we do and feel that by letting people know what to expect we attract the type of webmasters that we want as part of Twistyscash

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                                                                                                                            • Sassy Girl
                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                              • Jul 2004
                                                                                                                              • 410
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              I retain like mad around that time of the month.

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                                                                                                                                • Shap
                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                  • May 2001
                                                                                                                                  • 8313
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Looks like retain may have been the wrong word to use in the title.

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                                                                                                                                    • slapass
                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                      • 14625
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Shap, this type of thread is good for business. Thanks for sharing. It caused me to look at myu stats with you. I sent one sale on a few hundred clicks but guess what.... I have 6 rebills. Makes a guy think he needs to send more sales as last month was exactly the same.

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                                                                                                                                        • Basic_man
                                                                                                                                          Programming King Pin
                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                          • 27360
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Thanks for starting this thread
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                                                                                                                                            • Shap
                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                              • May 2001
                                                                                                                                              • 8313
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Good To Hear Slapass. We are going to be sending out an email today and tomorrow. It's going to be good

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