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  • stocktrader23
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    • Jan 2003
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    #1

    Why are there not more RICH foreign webmasters?

    You would think most all of the top programs and sponsors would be from countries where the US dollar is worth more than it is in the states.

    Employees cost less.
    Talent costs less.
    Takes less money to survive.

    Everyone can access the web just like those from the US yet most big sponsors, programs, etc. are from here.

    If I make $10,000 a month it's ok where if some people make it they have $9,500 to invest back in their business. So what is their excuse for not pratically owning every single market that does big numbers online?


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  • TheJimmy
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    • Jan 2001
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    #2
    how do you know there aren't a lot?

    only reason I ask or pose this question, is every month, sometimes every week I find new corners of people online I never knew existed before...

    some quite impressive pockets of people and information too

    Investor with 5m - 15m USD to invest. Do you have a site or network of sites earning 50k - 200k a month income? Email your contact and preliminary data to: domain.cashventures (at) gmail.com....Please...no tire kickers...serious offers and inquiries only.

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    • Doctor Dre
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      • Jan 2001
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      #3
      Cauz they don't brag about it ...

      The american mentality is to show everybody what they got ...

      European webmasters such as diesel and couple other guys (from french scene, or just big promoters / mailers) don't talk much ... but are more succesfull then a lot of US based compagnies .
      Originally posted by rayadp05
      I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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      • Doctor Dre
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        • Jan 2001
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        #4
        When you got something working right for yourself sometimes you just lay low ... :P
        Originally posted by rayadp05
        I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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        • stocktrader23
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          • Jan 2003
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          #5
          Originally posted by TheJimmy
          how do you know there aren't a lot?

          only reason I ask or pose this question, is every month, sometimes every week I find new corners of people online I never knew existed before...

          some quite impressive pockets of people and information too

          Where are the top 10 sponsor from?

          I'm sure there are many foreign webmasters that make great money, especially for their location. However, they should be completely dominating every market that is marketable over the web.

          Like I said, if I make $10,000 profit I could comfortably re-invest $5,000 to $6,000 where someone from another country could re-invest $9,500. With that advantage they should be completely dominating the market.


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          • stocktrader23
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            • Jan 2003
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            #6
            Originally posted by Doctor Dre
            Cauz they don't brag about it ...

            The american mentality is to show everybody what they got ...

            European webmasters such as diesel and couple other guys (from french scene, or just big promoters / mailers) don't talk much ... but are more succesfull then a lot of US based compagnies .
            Bragging isn't an American mentality it's human nature.

            And Europe isn't a poor country.


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            "I try to make a habit of bouncing my eyes up to the face of a beautiful woman, and often repeat “not mine” in my head or even verbally. She’s not mine. God has her set aside. She’s not mine. She’s His little girl, and she needs me to fight for her by keeping my eyes where they should be."

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            • pornstar2pac
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              • Nov 2003
              • 17380

              #7
              I'm mexican, so I'm consider foreign by a few idiots.
              Trump haters gonna hate. that's all they can do

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              • chupachups
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                #8
                Originally posted by Doctor Dre
                Cauz they don't brag about it ...

                The american mentality is to show everybody what they got ...

                European webmasters such as diesel and couple other guys (from french scene, or just big promoters / mailers) don't talk much ... but are more succesfull then a lot of US based compagnies .
                You´re so right Dre. Its both good and bad actually. Where I live currently, in Sweden, I have always been "ashamed" to talk about my money or earnings. Even though I think US guys brag alot I think its ok to show what you have actually accomplished.

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                • chupachups
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by stocktrader23
                  Bragging isn't an American mentality it's human nature.
                  Maybe thats so but we are speaking relatively here, propensity to brag

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                  • stocktrader23
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Chupachups
                    You´re so right Dre. Its both good and bad actually. Where I live currently, in Sweden, I have always been "ashamed" to talk about my money or earnings. Even though I think US guys brag alot I think its ok to show what you have actually accomplished.
                    What program do you run? You've got to be filthy rich by now no?


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                    • Nickless
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                      • Aug 2003
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by stocktrader23
                      Where are the top 10 sponsor from?

                      I'm sure there are many foreign webmasters that make great money, especially for their location. However, they should be completely dominating every market that is marketable over the web.

                      Like I said, if I make $10,000 profit I could comfortably re-invest $5,000 to $6,000 where someone from another country could re-invest $9,500. With that advantage they should be completely dominating the market.
                      re investing 9.5k/month would make you dominate... what!??
                      the balloon niche market?
                      Last edited by Nickless; 08-27-2004, 09:30 PM.

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                      • chupachups
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by stocktrader23
                        What program do you run? You've got to be filthy rich by now no?

                        What I do is a secret

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                        • stocktrader23
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Nickless
                          re investing 9.5k/month would make you dominate... what!??
                          the baloon niche market?
                          First of all, I started at $0.00.

                          Second, I used $10,000 as an example. I could have said I could comfortably invest 50 cents of every dollar earned where some people can swing 95 cents.

                          I'm sorry if the $10,000 example was over your head. I'll try to dumb it down next time.


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                          "I try to make a habit of bouncing my eyes up to the face of a beautiful woman, and often repeat “not mine” in my head or even verbally. She’s not mine. God has her set aside. She’s not mine. She’s His little girl, and she needs me to fight for her by keeping my eyes where they should be."

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                          • stocktrader23
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Chupachups
                            What I do is a secret


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                            "I try to make a habit of bouncing my eyes up to the face of a beautiful woman, and often repeat “not mine” in my head or even verbally. She’s not mine. God has her set aside. She’s not mine. She’s His little girl, and she needs me to fight for her by keeping my eyes where they should be."

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                            • quiet
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                              #15
                              lots of successful Canadians ;)
                              we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                              • chupachups
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by stocktrader23
                                Psst... business integrity is another word for it.

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                                • stocktrader23
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by quiet
                                  lots of successful Canadians ;)
                                  I should have said North America.



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                                  "I try to make a habit of bouncing my eyes up to the face of a beautiful woman, and often repeat “not mine” in my head or even verbally. She’s not mine. God has her set aside. She’s not mine. She’s His little girl, and she needs me to fight for her by keeping my eyes where they should be."

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                                  • Nickless
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                                    • Aug 2003
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by stocktrader23
                                    First of all, I started at $0.00.

                                    Second, I used $10,000 as an example. I could have said I could comfortably invest 50 cents of every dollar earned where some people can swing 95 cents.

                                    I'm sorry if the $10,000 example was over your head. I'll try to dumb it down next time.
                                    I've started out at $0 myself too, but saying investing 10k/month over anything, would make you 'dominate' any market at all is silly, since that alone is what some people around here spend in just say, hosting per month.

                                    Maybe i took you a little bit too literally.

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                                    • stocktrader23
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Chupachups
                                      Psst... business integrity is another word for it.
                                      Ok. So Google and every other company that has their books open to the public have no integrity?

                                      Someone's gotta know. What's the biggest Swedish porn operation on the planet?

                                      Any huge paysites?
                                      Sponsors?

                                      Anything?


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                                      "I try to make a habit of bouncing my eyes up to the face of a beautiful woman, and often repeat “not mine” in my head or even verbally. She’s not mine. God has her set aside. She’s not mine. She’s His little girl, and she needs me to fight for her by keeping my eyes where they should be."

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                                      • chupachups
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by stocktrader23
                                        Ok. So Google and every other company that has their books open to the public have no integrity?

                                        Someone's gotta know. What's the biggest Swedish porn operation on the planet?

                                        Any huge paysites?
                                        Sponsors?

                                        Anything?

                                        Who said I made my money/or am making money from porn and not something related?

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                                        • stocktrader23
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Nickless
                                          I've started out at $0 myself too, but saying investing 10k/month over anything, would make you 'dominate' any market at all is silly, since that alone is what some people around here spend in just say, hosting per month.

                                          Maybe i took you a little bit too literally.
                                          That is irrelevant.

                                          If I have $5000 a month to re-invest and someone else equally as smart has $10,000 they should grow twice as fast right?

                                          And that's in simple terms. Actually it would parlay into much more much faster.


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                                          "I try to make a habit of bouncing my eyes up to the face of a beautiful woman, and often repeat “not mine” in my head or even verbally. She’s not mine. God has her set aside. She’s not mine. She’s His little girl, and she needs me to fight for her by keeping my eyes where they should be."

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                                          • chupachups
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by stocktrader23
                                            That is irrelevant.

                                            If I have $5000 a month to re-invest and someone else equally as smart has $10,000 they should grow twice as fast right?

                                            And that's in simple terms. Actually it would parlay into much more much faster.
                                            Even though Internet is a global thing "being there" probably gives you an advantage on the market. After all, if you really want to become an millionaire US is the place to be.

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                                            • detoxed
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by stocktrader23
                                              That is irrelevant.

                                              If I have $5000 a month to re-invest and someone else equally as smart has $10,000 they should grow twice as fast right?

                                              And that's in simple terms. Actually it would parlay into much more much faster.
                                              Higher taxes in Europe? And seriously, no matter where you are, if you are making $10k a month you are NOT going to only live on $500 a month.

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                                              • TheJimmy
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                                                • Jan 2001
                                                • 10747

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by stocktrader23
                                                Where are the top 10 sponsor from?

                                                ...

                                                I understand that point foooo shooo...


                                                but when you ask yourself, how many chinese GFYs or russian GFY's do you hang out at ?

                                                all I was getting at is there is a WORLD of sponsors out there that I've never heard of that probably do quite a bit of biz...





                                                in general I do know what you're getting at, if they were THAT big you'd think they'd have an english version running and we'd know about it...


                                                interesting to think about, fooo shoo....
                                                Investor with 5m - 15m USD to invest. Do you have a site or network of sites earning 50k - 200k a month income? Email your contact and preliminary data to: domain.cashventures (at) gmail.com....Please...no tire kickers...serious offers and inquiries only.

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                                                • Doctor Dre
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                                                  • Jan 2001
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Chupachups
                                                  You´re so right Dre. Its both good and bad actually. Where I live currently, in Sweden, I have always been "ashamed" to talk about my money or earnings. Even though I think US guys brag alot I think its ok to show what you have actually accomplished.
                                                  I've seen some stats that are really impressive compared to some american sponsors ... :P
                                                  Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                  I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                  • stocktrader23
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by detoxed
                                                    Higher taxes in Europe? And seriously, no matter where you are, if you are making $10k a month you are NOT going to only live on $500 a month.
                                                    Of course not. But if $500 is the average income there they can do much more with $20,000 than I can.


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                                                    "I try to make a habit of bouncing my eyes up to the face of a beautiful woman, and often repeat “not mine” in my head or even verbally. She’s not mine. God has her set aside. She’s not mine. She’s His little girl, and she needs me to fight for her by keeping my eyes where they should be."

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                                                    • quiet
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Doctor Dre
                                                      I've seen some stats that are really impressive compared to some american sponsors ... :P
                                                      whoever showed you must be a real bragger.
                                                      we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                                      • Nickless
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by stocktrader23
                                                        That is irrelevant.

                                                        If I have $5000 a month to re-invest and someone else equally as smart has $10,000 they should grow twice as fast right?

                                                        And that's in simple terms. Actually it would parlay into much more much faster.
                                                        Depends on what you invest that 5/10k on, maybe you spend 5/10k on a couple hun listings, maybe you outsource that money to hire a team of indian guys to send galleries for you, etc. it's all in how you play your cards, every time, at any industry.

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                                                        • chupachups
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by quiet
                                                          whoever showed you must be a real bragger.

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                                                          • BRISK
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                                                            • Feb 2003
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                                                            #30
                                                            There are lots of rich people in the biz in Canada, EU, and Australia
                                                            I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
                                                            I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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                                                            • TheJimmy
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                                                              #31
                                                              what i'm curious about , is who are the top players in the spanish, german and japanese markets...


                                                              not necessarily in that order either...
                                                              Investor with 5m - 15m USD to invest. Do you have a site or network of sites earning 50k - 200k a month income? Email your contact and preliminary data to: domain.cashventures (at) gmail.com....Please...no tire kickers...serious offers and inquiries only.

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                                                              • Nickless
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by TheJimmy
                                                                what i'm curious about , is who are the top players in the spanish, german and japanese markets...


                                                                not necessarily in that order either...
                                                                I can't talk for the german and japanese markets, but i'm sure the spanish (europe/south american) markets are worthless, unless you want to deal with dialers or other shady shit.

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                                                                • BRISK
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by TheJimmy
                                                                  what i'm curious about , is who are the top players in the spanish, german and japanese markets...


                                                                  not necessarily in that order either...
                                                                  Japanese would be www.99bb.com

                                                                  Although they run it from Amsterdam I thinks
                                                                  I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
                                                                  I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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                                                                  • chupachups
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Nickless
                                                                    I can't talk for the german and japanese markets, but i'm sure the spanish (europe/south american) markets are worthless, unless you want to deal with dialers or other shady shit.

                                                                    Japan is probably the 1st or 2nd biggest market of them all

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                                                                    • Nickless
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      so in conclusion, we have no fucking clue about the japanese market, and it's a hell of a money maker for sure.

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                                                                      • BRISK
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                                                                        • Feb 2003
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Nickless
                                                                        so in conclusion, we have no fucking clue about the japanese market, and it's a hell of a money maker for sure.
                                                                        Yup, Japan is money.
                                                                        I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
                                                                        I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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                                                                        • {fusion}
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          some decent aussie webmasters also.

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                                                                          • mary34d
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            i think sexmoney is doing pretty good


                                                                            The guys at CJ Bucks will do absolutely anything to get your business. You owe it to yourself to at least ask!

                                                                            Free Hosting, Content, etc. CJ Bucks has it all. Sign up! I'll show you my tits now you show me your traffic.

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                                                                            • chupachups
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Nickless
                                                                              so in conclusion, we have no fucking clue about the japanese market, and it's a hell of a money maker for sure.

                                                                              Yes, thats for sure. Look at Pfizer for instance, they never specify the % of Viagra sold in Japan but it ought to amounts for 30-40% of the revenue. Thats not bad for a smallish country with 120 mil or so people living in it..

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                                                                              • BRISK
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                                                                                • Feb 2003
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Chupachups
                                                                                Yes, thats for sure. Look at Pfizer for instance, they never specify the % of Viagra sold in Japan but it ought to amounts for 30-40% of the revenue. Thats not bad for a smallish country with 120 mil or so people living in it..
                                                                                All the earthquakes and godzilla attacks make them horny
                                                                                I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
                                                                                I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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                                                                                • chupachups
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by BRISK
                                                                                  All the earthquakes and godzilla attacks make them horny

                                                                                  :Btw, I hear you can actually buy tiger-testicle soup over there.. a real delicacy @ 200bucks per litre or so

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                                                                                  • BRISK
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                                                                                    • Feb 2003
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Chupachups
                                                                                    :Btw, I hear you can actually buy tiger-testicle soup over there.. a real delicacy @ 200bucks per litre or so
                                                                                    Sounds more like something you would find in China/Hong Kong, but it wouldn't surprise me. I've never seen it on my trips there.
                                                                                    I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
                                                                                    I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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                                                                                    • chupachups
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by BRISK
                                                                                      Sounds more like something you would find in China/Hong Kong, but it wouldn't surprise me. I've never seen it on my trips there.
                                                                                      Anyways, sexual stamina seems _very_ important for those guys..

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                                                                                      • BRISK
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Chupachups
                                                                                        Anyways, sexual stamina seems _very_ important for those guys..
                                                                                        You need a lot of stamina for those all-night bukkake sessions.
                                                                                        I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
                                                                                        I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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                                                                                        • chupachups
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by BRISK
                                                                                          You need a lot of stamina for those all-night bukkake sessions.
                                                                                          lol

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                                                                                          • Phil
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            for me Japanese are in top 3 conversions for fetish sites. and those are not even asian bdsm type...
                                                                                            3 things that Japanese like:

                                                                                            Porn, steak and Budwaizaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
                                                                                            Ask Phil

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                                                                                            • allen135
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by stocktrader23
                                                                                              And Europe isn't a poor country.
                                                                                              lol

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                                                                                              • stocktrader23
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by allen135
                                                                                                lol
                                                                                                $50 a month is plenty for anyone.


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                                                                                                • mattyboy
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Don't forget the UK

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                                                                                                  • Bigfuck
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by stocktrader23
                                                                                                    Ok. So Google and every other company that has their books open to the public have no integrity?

                                                                                                    Someone's gotta know. What's the biggest Swedish porn operation on the planet?

                                                                                                    Any huge paysites?
                                                                                                    Sponsors?

                                                                                                    Anything?

                                                                                                    Private is Swedish

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