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01-21-2004, 02:56 PM

Its a shame that I am a webmaster and I dont even know html or how to use photoshop..

Last time I opened up and played with photoshop was back in 1996 when I was still in College and I was in a computer lab fucking around..

I wanna learn it.
Is this program any good for learning it?

http://www.totaltraining.com/store/2...CSComplete.asp

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01-21-2004, 02:58 PM

im serious.

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01-21-2004, 02:59 PM

Never heard of it myself.

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01-21-2004, 03:00 PM

Ive been going crazy buying programs and the learing DVD's to learn how to opperate em..

I just bough Photoshop CS, also Adobe Premiere Pro.

I bought like an 8 hour DVD that was supposed to be good to teach me Premiere, since that fucking program doesnt seem to have a good learning curve..

Now I wanna get something good to learn photoshop..

No books please.. I hate books.

I need something i can watch on TV as im eating my Pizza and learning at the same time..

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01-21-2004, 03:01 PM

Originally posted by boneprone
Its a shame that I am a webmaster and I dont even know html or how to use photoshop..

Last time I opened up and played with photoshop was back in 1996 when I was still in College and I was in a computer lab fucking around..

I wanna learn it.
Is this program any good for learning it?

http://www.totaltraining.com/store/2...CSComplete.asp

I like the book version

It is funny that some of the guys that make the most money do not know photoshop or html !

I was talking to other webmasters with the same problem ........... it just goes to show it is all about marketing !

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01-21-2004, 03:02 PM

Most these programs, the best way to learn is to just load it and play around with it and learn things on your own as ya go along...

Only problem is, Ill play with it, get frustrated, and rather than try to figure it out ill just come to GFY and fuck around..

So that doesnt work..

I need something that I can go to the TV room and watch..

No distractions.

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01-21-2004, 03:03 PM

Originally posted by Dugmor

I like the book version

It is funny that some of the guys that make the most money do not know photoshop or html !

I was talking to other webmasters with the same problem ........... it just goes to show it is all about marketing !

Yeah man.
I know very little html. Just how to copy and paste links and images..

Photoshop... Like I said I havent opened up that program since 1996.. And I didnt like it or understand it then!

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01-21-2004, 03:04 PM

come to think of it, I dont know anything about the fucking internet when it comes to webpages and the tech aspects...

Go figure..

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01-21-2004, 03:06 PM

I guess thats why God made Turks and Russians..

To help me with my programing, designs, and consulting for cheap.

Seems simple to me.

Why learn it when you can just hire someone for cheap..

Thats what Ive thought for the past 5-6 years.

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01-21-2004, 03:15 PM

anyone else?

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01-21-2004, 03:22 PM

lmao...so who runs http://www.boneprone.com ??
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01-21-2004, 03:22 PM

I do

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01-21-2004, 03:23 PM

bone i got a guy that could school you in PS in a week, rates are mad reasonable and his work is phenomenal contact me ill send you his contact info if your interested.

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01-21-2004, 03:24 PM

for about 5 years.

But i didnt design it..

I didnt create the programs or scripts.

I just manage the trades, marketing and the money.

Thats what I do best.

Over half million hits a day coming to all my sites daily.

For 5 years

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01-21-2004, 03:24 PM

cs sucks

are you designing or just changing some html

*learn dreamweaver
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Take a photoshop class or hire me

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01-21-2004, 03:26 PM

Originally posted by webair
bone i got a guy that could school you in PS in a week, rates are mad reasonable and his work is phenomenal contact me ill send you his contact info if your interested.

Id be more intrested in a crash course in Video Editing.

Adobe Premiere, break out boxes and Pinnacle DV500DVD, and DVD to mpeg and wmv content shit.

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01-21-2004, 03:26 PM

I've thought about giving that a try. I make my living with Photoshop and it's also my favorite hobby, but I always feel I can learn more. I've spent a small fortune on Photoshop books and now I'm learning Illustrator. I haven't tried any video learning yet, though.

I tried a demo of CS and I'm glad I didn't buy it yet. I'll wait until they fix some things first.
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01-21-2004, 03:26 PM

Originally posted by chronic avenger
cs sucks

are you designing or just changing some html

*learn dreamweaver
if you want to be an artist
Take a photoshop class or hire me

Yeah I will learn dream weaver next!

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01-21-2004, 03:27 PM

well... the only thing stopping you from learning is yourself.

I personally think books are the best to learn with. You just sit in the drivers seat and do what the book tells you. Tutorials are also good, free, and all over the internet.

It's all downhill after that.

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01-21-2004, 03:28 PM

who am i fucking kidding..

I bet Im gunna shell out tons of cash for all these fucking programs, shell out cash for all the DVDs and books to learn how to use em, and they will just sit in my closet for 2 years until they are outdated and Ill go through this all over again..

Never even breaking the seal on the boxes..

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01-21-2004, 03:29 PM

Originally posted by SetTheWorldonFire
well... the only thing stopping you from learning is yourself.

I personally think books are the best to learn with. You just sit in the drivers seat and do what the book tells you. Tutorials are also good, free, and all over the internet.

It's all downhill after that.

I went to College for 7 years...

When I graduated with my Masters I made a promise to myself to NEVER read another book again..

ITs a promise I plan to keep..

I hate books.

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01-21-2004, 03:29 PM

If I don't have 'em by then, look me up. I might take them off your hands. LOL

Seriously, Photoshop is alot of fun once you learn it. I love it.
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01-21-2004, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by boneprone
who am i fucking kidding..

I bet Im gunna shell out tons of cash for all these fucking programs, shell out cash for all the DVDs and books to learn how to use em, and they will just sit in my closet for 2 years until they are outdated and Ill go through this all over again..

Never even breaking the seal on the boxes..

Dont buy shit,...
KAZAA it , at least untill you know your going to use them

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01-21-2004, 03:31 PM

Too late..

Already bought em..

I seriously think im gunna learn this time.

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01-21-2004, 03:32 PM

Originally posted by boneprone
Too late..

Already bought em..

I seriously think im gunna learn this time.

if you like me and you SPENT money on it,
you have to use it.

well hit me up if you get stuck.
because real photoshop G's use channels not layers

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01-21-2004, 03:33 PM

Originally posted by boneprone

I went to College for 7 years...

When I graduated with my Masters I made a promise to myself to NEVER read another book again..

ITs a promise I plan to keep..

I hate books.

what about popup books?

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01-21-2004, 03:35 PM

on a serious note try some sites.

http://www.teamphotoshop.com/index.php

I really like DBM for quicktime Tuts.

2 discs full of em here: http://store.yahoo.com/designsbymark/marphot7mask.html

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01-21-2004, 03:37 PM

Your best resort is online tutorials. Check out:

Portrait Enhancement
http://www.photoepix.com/photoshop/
http://www.mediachance.com/digicam/cleanskin.htm (software)
Vignettes, Borders and Edges
http://www.espressographics.com/text/edges.html
http://members.aol.com/azpixels2/projects-edges.html
http://myjanee.home.insightbb.com/tutorials.htm
Gaussian Blur Overlays (Dream Filter)
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/gaussian.htm
Watercolor/Painting Effects
http://www.reallyusefulpage.com/50t...le-tutorial.htm
http://www.myjanee.com/tuts/painted2/painted2.htm
http://www.myjanee.com/tuts/painted/painted.htm
http://www.myjanee.com/tuts/painted3/painted3.htm
Realistic Pencil & Pastel Sketches
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read...message=2850428
One Water Color Technique
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read...message=2835802
Another Water Color Technique
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read...message=2852724
Blending Mode Definitions
http://www.rrcc-online.com/~lenm/16101blends.htm
Infrared Tutorial & Actions
http://www.caughtintimephotography.com/demo.html
http://www.cliffshade.com/dpfwiw/ir.htm
http://www.cocam.co.uk/CoCamWS/Infrared/INFRARED.HTM
http://www.naturfotograf.com/index2.html
http://www.pixelagogo.com/infrared.html#
http://www.fredmiranda.com/DI/index.html (action)
http://www.digitalfocus.net/downloads.htm (action)
http://www.photocollege.co.uk/stepbystep/sbsframe.html (channel mixer)
Digital Graduated Neutral Density Filter
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read...message=1333399
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/blended_exposures.htm
Digital CC Filters
http://www.mediachance.com/digicam/filtersim.htm
Contrast Masking
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/contrast_masking.htm
Panorama Tools (Free Plug-In)
http://www.fh-furtwangen.de/~dersch/
A Digital Watermark Signature Tutorial
http://www.robin-beck.com/digital/w...rks/aps/aps.htm
Grain Aliasing (film scanner)
http://www.photoscientia.co.uk/Grain.htm
The High Bit Advantage (film scanner)
http://www.creativepro.com/story/ne...html?cprose=I20
Image Softening Technique
http://www.carolsteele.btinternet.c..._focus/soft.htm
Unsharp Mask Quick Tips
http://www.lonestardigital.com/photoshop_quicktips.htm
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/smart_sharp.htm
http://www.bythom.com/sharpening.htm
http://www.creativepro.com/story/feature/11242.html
Shooting the Moon (w/links to astrophotography and solar/lunar tables)
http://www.cliffshade.com/dpfwiw/moon.htm
RAW File Management Tips
http://www.kleptography.com/notes-workflow.htm
http://www.colorshots.com/cs101e/html/tipps_raw.html
A Few Scanning Tips
http://scantips.com/
Digital B&W Printing
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/digital_b&w.htm
http://www.inksupply.com/index.cfm?...l/quadtone.html
http://inkjetgoodies.com/Piezography_Questions.html
PS Actions, Filters, Brushes, Plug-Ins, etc.
http://xchange.studio.adobe.com/axBrowseProduct.asp?p=2
http://www.deepspaceweb.com/downloa...wdownload&cid=1
http://www.deepspaceweb.com/downloa...wdownload&cid=2
http://www.deepspaceweb.com/downloa...wdownload&cid=4
http://www.ephemeralvisions.com/... .../tutorial_lineless_brushes.html
http://www.teamphotoshop.com/photos...ials/ps_tut.php
Digital Photography FAQ (superb site!)
http://www.cs.duke.edu/~parr/photography/faq.html
Battery Info.
http://www.cliffshade.com/dpfwiw/batteries.htm
http://www.imaging-resource.com/ACCS/BATTS/BATTS.HTM
PaintShop Pro Tutorials
http://the-internet-eye.com/HOWTO/PSP.htm
PS Elements Tutorials
http://www.arraich.com/elements/psE_intro.htm
http://www.photoshoproadmap.com/... .../photoshop-elements.html
http://graphicssoft.about.com/cs/photoshopelements/
http://www.adobe.co.uk/web/tips/phselcolorcor/main.html
Misc. PS Instruction & Tutorials (in no order)
http://www.arraich.com/intro.htm
http://www.gurusnetwork.com/tutorials/photoshop/ (Links)
http://www.intelinfo.com/free_photoshop_training.html
http://www.carlvolk.com/photoshoptips.asp
http://www.jtgraphics.net/all_digital.htm
http://www.photoepix.com/
http://www.computer-darkroom.co.uk/
http://the-internet-eye.com/HOWTO/Photoshop.htm
http://www.davrodigital.co.uk/tutorials/how.htm
http://www.davrodigital.co.uk/tutorials/how2.htm
http://www.davrodigital.co.uk/menu/...tm/mainmenu.htm
http://www.espressographics.com/text/menuph5.html
http://members.aol.com/azpixels2/projects.html
http://www.webmasterbase.com/tutorials/Photoshop/
http://rainworld.com/psworkshop/
http://www.planetphotoshop.com/tutorials.html
http://www.phong.com/tutorials/
http://www.mccannas.com/pshop/photosh0.htm
http://www.deepspaceweb.com/sections.php
http://www.magicpixel.com.au/html/workwel.html
http://www.geocities.com/nessele/
http://myjanee.home.insightbb.com/tutorials.htm
Assorted Digital Imaging Sites
http://www.imaging-resource.com
http://www.steves-digicams.com
http://www.dp-now.com
http://www.dcviews.com
http://www.dpreview.com
http://www.cliffshade.com/dpfwiw/index.htm
http://www.robgalbraith.com
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/
http://www.ekdahl.org/digital.htm
http://www.megapixel.net/html/issueindex.html
http://www.outbackphoto.com/
http://www.a-digital-eye.com/

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01-21-2004, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by SetTheWorldonFire
what about popup books?

Hmmm...

Do they have any?

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01-21-2004, 03:39 PM

I looked at the demo clips and I think $299.00 for 7 DVDs is a great
price for this product.

One of the keys to tutorial videos is to not waste audio space
with unnecessary dialog plus that dialog should flow smooth
with an attention-getting style voice. I think this author has
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01-21-2004, 03:39 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Paul Waters
[B]Your best resort is online tutorials. Check out:

Again...

This is just like reading..

I dont like reading.

But these may come in handy.. Thanks.

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01-21-2004, 03:42 PM

Originally posted by Wilber
I looked at the demo clips and I think $299.00 for 7 DVDs is a great
price for this product.

One of the keys to tutorial videos is to not waste audio space
with unnecessary dialog plus that dialog should flow smooth
with an attention-getting style voice. I think this author has
great skills in video tutorials.

Coool..
Thanks man!!

I jsut bought it..

Maybe I can make some copies for people!

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01-21-2004, 03:44 PM

Originally posted by boneprone
Thanks man!!

Welcome.

Maybe I can make some copies for people!

Burn 'em VCD and post the ftp ;)

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01-21-2004, 03:47 PM

Originally posted by Wilber

Burn 'em VCD and post the ftp ;)

again...

You are assuming I know what the hell this means.

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01-21-2004, 03:52 PM

hit up 3dbuzz.com he has a free VTM on photoshop will give you the basics..

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01-21-2004, 03:52 PM

The videos can be good for getting the basic stuff down. But will probably not help you figure out how to do any super usefull effects or stuff when it comes to making website stuff with photoshop besides editing pictures. Which can be good if you want to learn photoshop to touch your photos up.

The videos are way easier to learn from then anything else though, because they show you exactly where to point and what not. I used a 3D Studio Max one awhile ago after giving up on using online tutorials.

The online tutorials are great because you will see some cool looking effect or something on some other site and usually the online tutorials will show you exactly how to do it.
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01-21-2004, 03:52 PM

Originally posted by boneprone

again...

You are assuming I know what the hell this means.

LOL upload to the server

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01-21-2004, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by boneprone

Coool..
Thanks man!!

I jsut bought it..

Maybe I can make some copies for people!

LOL

I wish I knew if it would be worth it for me to spend that much on it. I'd hate to spend $299 to learn what I've already learned on my own and from several hundred dollars in books.

My husband would kill me for wasting that kind of money if I couldn't learn anything new.
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01-21-2004, 03:58 PM

I learned the basics from vtc.com

It is $25 a month and it has alot of programs you can learn
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01-21-2004, 04:01 PM

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01-21-2004, 05:26 PM

Bone - one of my friends has the Total Training for Photoshop 7 and it kicks ass.

A few months ago I bought the Total Training for Adobe Premier Pro - thinking that I might learn some video editing. I bought the DVDs but soon discovered that not only is "good" video editing a talent - it's a fucking science. Anybody can edit, but "good" editors are few and far between. It takes a while to not only learn the editing process, but to develop an eye for good editing.

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01-21-2004, 05:35 PM

Just jump in .
A wholehearted effort will payoff .
Tutorials are written usually by people that dont have a clue how to write a tutorial , or by people that make it want to seem harder , to sell design .

90% of the tutorials out there can be done in much easier ways .
I don't get it my self .

Best thing with any graphics program is to have a good reference book and alot of time .

I've been inside adobe for 20 hours a day for the last year , since I switched to it . and I still have soooo much to learn .

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01-21-2004, 06:14 PM

It seems to me that your talents lie in making money and not in making the product. You've gotten this far without it so why worry about it now? Hire the people that are masterful at something and spend your time making money and having fun.

Do you think Donald Trump knows anything about engineering or architecture? No, and why should he, he's a master at the art of the deal.

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01-21-2004, 10:51 PM

Originally posted by The Hammer
It seems to me that your talents lie in making money and not in making the product. You've gotten this far without it so why worry about it now? Hire the people that are masterful at something and spend your time making money and having fun.

Do you think Donald Trump knows anything about engineering or architecture? No, and why should he, he's a master at the art of the deal.

Just my

Dude...

This is really fucking strange!

I was thinking the exact same thing tonight..

Damn.. I was thinking the Trump example and everything!

whoa..

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01-21-2004, 10:58 PM

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01-21-2004, 11:08 PM

Originally posted by The Hammer

Do you think Donald Trump knows anything about engineering or architecture? No, and why should he, he's a master at the art of the deal.

Just my

True... but having been in his industry (real estate) for so long, and being a "master" at it, you can be sure that Donald Trumps knows a lot about the current limitations and possibilities of technologies and methods that apply to his industry.

In other words -- Donald Trump may not be a master architect, but he probably knows a hell of a lot more about it than you or I -- and for good reason.

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01-21-2004, 11:12 PM

I'm not a very good designer, but I know how to use photoshop well enough to clearly convey my ideas to designers in a language they can understand.
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01-21-2004, 11:18 PM

The TOTAL TRAINING guys KICK ASS !!!

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01-22-2004, 05:16 AM

Originally posted by boneprone

Dude...

This is really fucking strange!

I was thinking the exact same thing tonight..

Damn.. I was thinking the Trump example and everything!

whoa..

Well, as they say, great minds think alike.

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01-22-2004, 05:19 AM

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