has anybody read "The Republic" by Plato?

**Theo** · 01-20-2004, 06:04 PM

I read it years ago. Great reading. It's available online. http://plato.evansville.edu/texts/jowett/republic.htm

Im trying to find the book about Hermes trismegistus. It describes how the world was probably created by god and it's exactly what you'll read in bible.... When I found it out I lost a lot of faith...Bible wasn't that original in a scary degree.

**buddyjuf** · 01-20-2004, 06:33 PM

are there many passages like "the allegory of the cave"?

things as interesting as that and such?

thanx dude

**cluck** · 01-20-2004, 06:34 PM

Good reading. Read that last year.

**fuzebox** · 01-20-2004, 06:35 PM

Not yet, but I'm reading Plato's Last Days of Socrates right now, good stuff

**Theo** · 01-20-2004, 06:49 PM

They follow a similar tone.

English translations are pretty good having in mind many of the terms used do not exist in english vocabulary. The truth is at younger age I HATED all ancient greek texts because I had to read them from the original ancient text and pass exams something extremely difficult. I never understood the obsession of our educational system in Greece to learn the ancient greek language (something close to impossible). It only results to hate the philosophers hehe

Shortest and best definition of friend ever given by Aristotle:

one soul in two bodies

**GonePhishing** · 01-20-2004, 06:52 PM

I really enjoyed the story. I found it run in synch with the intellegible vs the real arguments that were later drawn out in the book. I did find the whole reading to be enjoyable. I also liked the added discussion on the world of forms.

**Playah** · 01-20-2004, 06:54 PM

Originally posted by bdjuf
are there many passages like "the allegory of the cave"?

things as interesting as that and such?

thanx dude

No, there are not many passages like that in the book. That's one of the only ones, there are like 2 others and they are not as powerful or in-depth.

However, the book as a whole is quite interesting. It's a philosophical classic for a reason.

On a sidenote- you can skip about 100 pages in the middle without losing much of the story (where he goes into detail about monitoring the education of kids, the feeding of the soldiers, and irrelevant crap like that).

-Leo

**buddyjuf** · 01-20-2004, 06:56 PM

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...glance&s=books

is that a "real" edition of the book?

**TheEnforcer** · 01-20-2004, 07:24 PM

Yes, many years ago in college. There are a TON of great Philophers and philosopy books to read. That is easily one of, and many would argue, the best philosophy books you can read.

**AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE** · 01-20-2004, 07:25 PM

Yes.

**Libertine** · 01-20-2004, 07:36 PM

Even though Plato is one of my favorite writers from both a historical and a literary point of view, from a philosophical point of view his writings can be considered worthless now.

That's why you'd be better off reading stuff like Phaedros, Protagoras, Ion, etc than The Republic, unless you're really into the history of philosophy.

**pushpills** · 01-20-2004, 07:45 PM

I've read "The Czech Republic" by play-dough.

has anybody read "The Republic" by Plato?

has anybody read "The Republic" by Plato?

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