Cleland is delivering some mail.
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No hands. No legs. Damn.Make Levees, Not War -
what?Comment
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Ooooo. Major drama.Make Levees, Not WarComment
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Any1 got a link ?Originally posted by rayadp05Comment
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I'm not sure that is major drama... but I'm watching it anyway.Comment
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huh?
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Who is Cleland?Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
Cleland is delivering some mail.
I don't have cable fill me in.
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Originally posted by MickeyG
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There's nothing on cnn.com
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sounds interesting, can you fill us in?Comment
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Ok. Today the Kerry camp decided to press the Swift ad issue to the Bush camp by sending former U.S. Senator Max Cleland to Crawford, TX in order to deliver a letter signed by 9 Veteran U.S. Senators demanding that Bush personally comdemn the Swift Boat ads. Bush refused to meet with Cleland who was wheeling around the Bush ranch in his chair. Cleland was severely injured in Vietnam losing both legs and an arm. Cleland called Bush out saying the President was directly behind the ads. This has been further developing since the resignation of Bush's legal advisor this morning. Oooooo awesome drama.Make Levees, Not WarComment
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major drama indeedComment
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Too bad they don't have anyone pathetic looking to send down their and get more sympathy. . .---------------------------------Comment
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Yeah i just saw that on CNN....... Cleland is cool.
He may have no arms and no use of his legs but hes got more style and ethics than 99% of the senators.Comment
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LOLOriginally posted by pimpin
Too bad they don't have anyone pathetic looking to send down their and get more sympathy. . .Comment
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Swift Boat Vets is such BS- I mean, no matter which side of the fence you're sitting on- the fact is none of these guys were on Kerry's boat, they don't know went down. Everyone who served "with" Kerry, and defining with as in the same unit, praises him.
When Kerry came back he fought to oppose the war, and this pissed some people off. They have a right to state they feel betrayed, but those ads are misleading. None of those men have ANY first hand knowledge of Kerry's service. What a crock.
I admire McCain for also comming out against the ads. When Bush was running in the primaries against McCain he tried to do the same shit to him, a former POW. Nice.
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Do you know how Cleland lost his limbs? From his own hand grenade. User error.Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
Ok. Today the Kerry camp decided to press the Swift ad issue to the Bush camp by sending former U.S. Senator Max Cleland to Crawford, TX in order to deliver a letter signed by 9 Veteran U.S. Senators demanding that Bush personally comdemn the Swift Boat ads. Bush refused to meet with Cleland who was wheeling around the Bush ranch in his chair. Cleland was severely injured in Vietnam losing both legs and an arm. Cleland called Bush out saying the President was directly behind the ads. This has been further developing since the resignation of Bush's legal advisor this morning. Oooooo awesome drama.
The guy could not even keep his job in the Senate, his constituants threw him to the curb. It is VERY difficult for a sitting Senator to lose an election.
Should have sent Timmmmmmmy from SouthPark, would have been more interesting!
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I wonder if the Bush camp will now come out and claim that Cleland didn't deserve his purple heart...Originally posted by ShellyCrash
Swift Boat Vets is such BS- I mean, no matter which side of the fence you're sitting on- the fact is none of these guys were on Kerry's boat, they don't know went down. Everyone who served "with" Kerry, and defining with as in the same unit, praises him.
When Kerry came back he fought to oppose the war, and this pissed some people off. They have a right to state they feel betrayed, but those ads are misleading. None of those men have ANY first hand knowledge of Kerry's service. What a crock.
I admire McCain for also comming out against the ads. When Bush was running in the primaries against McCain he tried to do the same shit to him, a former POW. Nice.
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yea drama
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Damn that would make for a great Kerry owned pic but Im not into dishonoring veterans who lost so much in battle.
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Originally posted by Mike AI
Do you know how Cleland lost his limbs? From his own hand grenade. User error.
The guy could not even keep his job in the Senate, his constituants threw him to the curb. It is VERY difficult for a sitting Senator to lose an election.
Should have sent Timmmmmmmy from SouthPark, would have been more interesting!
That's called OE - Operator Error.
We used to use that when I worked with an ISP and the dipshits would call in about spyware, spam, etc.---------------------------------Comment
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It is sad that it has to come to that.you are right drama drama!Comment
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See my post above.Originally posted by SykkBoy2
I wonder if the Bush camp will now come out and claim that Cleland didn't deserve his purple heart...
If Bush is to codemn the swift boat vets, then Kerry should codemn MoveOn.org and all the other left wing groups who have been compairing Bush to Hitler.
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Moveon is almost like the green party- before Kerry even threw his hat in the ring they were running those rediculous "What Would Jesus Drive" commercials. I respect Moveon as an anti war outfit, but their other politics are sometimes on another plane.Originally posted by Mike AI
See my post above.
If Bush is to codemn the swift boat vets, then Kerry should codemn MoveOn.org and all the other left wing groups who have been compairing Bush to Hitler.
We can't forget that 2 members of the bush campaign have had to resign because of their involvement with swift boat, it's beyond special interest.
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MoveOn is being funded by billionaire Soros who has a personal act to grind against Bush. I am not even sure if Soros is a US Citizen, yet he is pouring millions of his own money into trying to determine the ourcome of the US Presidential race.Originally posted by ShellyCrash
Moveon is almost like the green party- before Kerry even threw his hat in the ring they were running those rediculous "What Would Jesus Drive" commercials. I respect Moveon as an anti war outfit, but their other politics are sometimes on another plane.
We can't forget that 2 members of the bush campaign have had to resign because of their involvement with swift boat, it's beyond special interest.
moveon is ANTI BUSH, PERIOD. They had time to attack Bush because he was sitting President.
If Kerry was sitting President I am sure similair groups from the right would have been doing same thing to him.
It goes both ways. Both sides have their pitbulls....
For Kerry to whine and cry about it is silly. Bush has not said one word and has been savaged since he won election.
What is good for the goose, is good for the gander.
In many ways its like GFY. The people who want to talk smack are too chicken to risk their asses, or their business so they get other people ( or anon accounts) to attack their competition.
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Problem is, there is one distinct difference, Kerry and moveon are using facts, not liesOriginally posted by Mike AI
See my post above.
If Bush is to codemn the swift boat vets, then Kerry should codemn MoveOn.org and all the other left wing groups who have been compairing Bush to Hitler.
hard to condem the truth even if it is slanderous.
the swift boats were another deliberate attempt from the bush camp to purposely mislead the american people..... it started before he was elected, and has snowballed every sinceGot any domains to sell?
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Joe take another puff.Originally posted by Joesho
Problem is, there is one distinct difference, Kerry and moveon are using facts, not lies
hard to condem the truth even if it is slanderous.
the swift boats were another deliberate attempt from the bush camp to purposely mislead the american people..... it started before he was elected, and has snowballed every since
Compairing Bush to Hitler is not a fact, its an ad hominum attack.
It could be said moveon.org i a secret orginization who hides the names of hte people behind it.
The swift vets are putting their names and reputations on the line. 240+ people who dealt with Kerry while in Vietnam.... not all of them can be Bushies can they??
It goes both ways Joe. If you codemn swfit boats, condemn moveon..
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Mike AI. Kerry did condemn the MoveOn Hitler ad immediately after McCain had made the request of him. On the other hand, Bush hasn't.
The Democrats decided to fight back and the Republicans don't like being caught redhanded.Make Levees, Not WarComment
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Originally posted by Mike AI
Do you know how Cleland lost his limbs? From his own hand grenade. User error.
The guy could not even keep his job in the Senate, his constituants threw him to the curb. It is VERY difficult for a sitting Senator to lose an election.
Should have sent Timmmmmmmy from SouthPark, would have been more interesting!
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Hmmm I must have missed that.Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
Mike AI. Kerry did condemn the MoveOn Hitler ad immediately after McCain had made the request of him. On the other hand, Bush hasn't.
The Democrats decided to fight back and the Republicans don't like being caught redhanded.
What about the other ads moveon has been running? Did he codemn moveon totally or was it just Hilter ad?
I could be out of the loop.... I do try to keep up, but 24 hour newscycle is tough!
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that ad is fucking bush badly, doubt he made it
the purpouse of that ad was to make a heat as its now.
and no i dont support bush nor kerryComment
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I dont usually get involved in Politics on the message boards....but can I make just one small observation.....
I find it amusing that the Kerry supporters *from our industry* are asking someone to stifle free speech. Hmmmm.
As an aside, just note that Bush cannot win in this debacle.....If he doesnt ask this group to pull their ad then Kerry/Edwards are going to continue this posturing. If he does ask them to pull the ad and they oblige then Kerry/Edwards are going to come out and say "See, I told you the Bush camp was behind these ads all along. They approved their start and they approved their end"
It is a no win for the Bush Camp.
Just observations from the peanut galley
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Ginsberg is backpedaling for Bush on Wolf Blitzer right now. I love how the Republicans declare victory as this new Watergate unfolds. They broke the law and they got caught. Funny.Make Levees, Not WarComment
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There is no protection for irresponsible speech under the Constitution..Originally posted by SweetT
I dont usually get involved in Politics on the message boards....but can I make just one small observation.....
I find it amusing that the Kerry supporters *from our industry* are asking someone to stifle free speech. Hmmmm.
As an aside, just note that Bush cannot win in this debacle.....If he doesnt ask this group to pull their ad then Kerry/Edwards are going to continue this posturing. If he does ask them to pull the ad and they oblige then Kerry/Edwards are going to come out and say "See, I told you the Bush camp was behind these ads all along. They approved their start and they approved their end"
It is a no win for the Bush Camp.
Just observations from the peanut galley
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All I have to say is a guy with no legs and no arm is hardcore. That would definately suck....Comment
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Yeah but if it is a lie, then that should be acknoledged, know one is asking them to not speak freely, they are asking them to speak truthfully!Originally posted by SweetT
I dont usually get involved in Politics on the message boards....but can I make just one small observation.....
I find it amusing that the Kerry supporters *from our industry* are asking someone to stifle free speech. Hmmmm.
As an aside, just note that Bush cannot win in this debacle.....If he doesnt ask this group to pull their ad then Kerry/Edwards are going to continue this posturing. If he does ask them to pull the ad and they oblige then Kerry/Edwards are going to come out and say "See, I told you the Bush camp was behind these ads all along. They approved their start and they approved their end"
It is a no win for the Bush Camp.
Just observations from the peanut galley
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was he even there long enough to earn anything before his sudden disapearance?Got any domains to sell?
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Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
There is no protection for irresponsible speech under the Constitution..
Really? Can you define "irresponsible speech" for me? Who determines if something is irresponsible? I bet I could find a few irresponsible adult sites just following links in this thread....should they get shut down for being irresponsible?
Note that I am just asking questions for your perusal.
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Originally posted by Joesho
Yeah but if it is a lie, then that should be acknoledged, know one is asking them to not speak freely, they are asking them to speak truthfully!
Just another point to ponder.....
If it were a lie, then why hasn't the DNC just filed suit for Slander or Libel and just get a TRO. It would be a 30 minute process if it were clearly a lie, would it not?
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good to see those two focused on the issuse todays modern world faces.
I dont know about you guys but i sure know i will feel saer having one of thse to school yard gossipers running the most powerfull nation in the world.
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kerry's getting his ass handed to him for lying about his war record and then running on it.
so now, after the DNC called Bush a deserter, moveon.org and others slandered Bush and it just rolled off his back, they want to cry foul when the swift vets rip holes in kerry's fake record.
kerry: "I was in cambodia for christmas. its etched my mind and is something I'll never forget"
reporter: "um, mr kerry, the records show you where somewhere else for christmas"
kerry: "how dare you attack my war record?"I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.Comment
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one guy is running his entire campaign on his war record of 30 some years ago. The other is calling him on it.Originally posted by ColBigBalls
good to see those two focused on the issuse todays modern world faces.
I dont know about you guys but i sure know i will feel saer having one of thse to school yard gossipers running the most powerfull nation in the world.
Now where did i put my beer and that slab of back bacon
why anyone would vote for a clown because he spent 4 months in vietnam when he was 20 is beyond me.I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.Comment
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Now none of us have ever done any business dealings with "pornstar A"- none of us have even met "pornstar A", we're just in the adult industry at the same time as "pornstar A" and these are our opinions based on what we heard.
Now let's say a few of my friends and I work for "pornstar B"- do you really think "pornstar A" isn't going to slap us with a liable suit?
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The point is who gives a flying fuck who did or did not do what in a war that ended over a quater of a century ago. Id be more worried about your economy, healthcare, and world political stance and what these two fucktards plan for your country but thats just myOriginally posted by 12clicks
kerry's getting his ass handed to him for lying about his war record and then running on it.
so now, after the DNC called Bush a deserter, moveon.org and others slandered Bush and it just rolled off his back, they want to cry foul when the swift vets rip holes in kerry's fake record.
kerry: "I was in cambodia for christmas. its etched my mind and is something I'll never forget"
reporter: "um, mr kerry, the records show you where somewhere else for christmas"
kerry: "how dare you attack my war record?"
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