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  • WiredGuy
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    • Aug 2002
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    #101
    [QUOTE]Originally posted by Pornkings
    there is a reason why Traffic cash gold had a party for only 25 webmasters.

    If you ask me there might only be 20 guys who can send some sales. or who are big whales.

    the guys who have 5 mill cashed out already.

    when a company cashes out they don't pay webmasters etc.
    so its all profit. without going into detail
    Good point. And we both saw the crowd there, there was maybe what, 6-8 webmasters, the rest were all the other big affiliate programs... and times are changing so we gotta see how this all plays out.

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    • Pornkings
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      • Oct 2002
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      #102
      Originally posted by quiet


      i'm almost at that point myself. and i know a gfy regular who is likely worth 10 times that, at least.
      Quiet you have a differant model then sponsors.

      for instants and I'm not bragging if I were to cash out now.
      and stop puting money back into the company and not payout webmasters in less then a year I would have 10 mill in an acount no prob.

      Do you know what I mean. But there is only a few who can do it cause most big guys already did one example babenet.

      sometimes when a company goes out of business its not because they fucked up it's becasue they cashed out.
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      • Dawgy
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        • Jul 2001
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        #103
        so, roger, ill just fly down to tampa & be your slave/apprentice.

        lol
        the revolution is coming.

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        • quiet
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          • Sep 2001
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          #104
          Originally posted by Pornkings


          Quiet you have a differant model then sponsors.

          for instants and I'm not bragging if I were to cash out now.
          and stop puting money back into the company and not payout webmasters in less then a year I would have 10 mill in an acount no prob.

          Do you know what I mean. But there is only a few who can do it cause most big guys already did one example babenet.

          sometimes when a company goes out of business its not because they fucked up it's becasue they cashed out.
          i understand the different biz models (in general). i understand mine the most of course

          even for myself, there is no easy way out. i have to sell to get out, since i if i let sales drop, my cb ratio will get fucked up.

          the difference is, i have millions net right now. i haven't scammed anyone, and i never will. even if i wanted to, there is really no one to scam, at least for any significant amount of cash.

          i'm sure i'm not remotely in the same league as you, or anyone like you. i do well though, and i seem to only do better.

          we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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          • quiet
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            • Sep 2001
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            #105
            Originally posted by Pornkings
            and stop puting money back into the company and not payout webmasters in less then a year I would have 10 mill in an acount no prob.
            we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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            • Pornkings
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              • Oct 2002
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              #106
              Originally posted by quiet


              i understand the different biz models (in general). i understand mine the most of course

              even for myself, there is no easy way out. i have to sell to get out, since i if i let sales drop, my cb ratio will get fucked up.

              the difference is, i have millions net right now. i haven't scammed anyone, and i never will. even if i wanted to, there is really no one to scam, at least for any significant amount of cash.

              i'm sure i'm not remotely in the same league as you, or anyone like you. i do well though, and i seem to only do better.

              We should talk sometime I know we have said it before just never get around to it.

              From what you say you are doing great and are in the top 20

              Maybe we can both educate each other. I would like to understand your model better maybe I can help.
              we are way under 1%
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              • AWW - Kevin
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                • Jan 2002
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                #107
                Originally posted by Diamond Jim


                Ya lost me....

                Equity is net worth....pointless in the conversation at hand. 5 mil means 5 mil that is in play in some way, but available. In real estate foreclosures, for example, you could have 5 mil in a group of properties waiting them to close (30-120 day window). Assuming you did your homework, that money is as safe as in any bank, but is yielding 70-100% annual returns and not 4%. In MY opinion, that is still hard cash....other opinions may differ...

                Of course, this is all theory....I took out a loan for the bar tab tonight.....
                diddo


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                • the indigo
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                  • Sep 2001
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by KRL



                  I've never understood the concept of wanting to retire.

                  How could anyone give up the thrill and rush of dealmaking and just go play golf and sit in the sun everyday.

                  I tried it with a more leisurely lifestyle of semi-retirement back in my 30's, going golfing everyday and couldn't deal with it at all. Sold my Pings and went back to the game of dealz.

                  I want to die while working, contributing, and being productive and not sitting in a lounge chair in Tahiti.

                  IMHO, it's because you don't like enough things in life.

                  I mean, I would go buy a Kart/F3000, race a few time a weeks, play computer gamers as a professional (traveling and trying to win prizes), open a bar, read books, write stuff, think, motorcycle, traveling, buy a boat, whatever man... bottom line is that Golf is just plain booooring
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                  • FUCKuPAYme
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                    • Jan 2003
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                    #109
                    i was just talking out my ass everyone who does this full time is a player.

                    when i reach 500 post here i will retire from gfy

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                    • sweet7
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                      • May 2003
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by DrinkingHard
                      I thought the magic number was 50 million...

                      Gekko: I'm talking liquid. Enough money to have your own jet. Enough money not to waste time. Fifty, one hundred million dollars. A player.

                      DH

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                      • davidd
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                        • Jul 2003
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                        #111
                        Originally posted by DrinkingHard
                        I thought the magic number was 50 million...

                        Gekko: I'm talking liquid. Enough money to have your own jet. Enough money not to waste time. Fifty, one hundred million dollars. A player.

                        DH

                        He is 100% correct but based upon the time frame the statement was made, 100 mil minimum nowadays.

                        1mil isn't shit, once you get there you realize it isn't enough to retire on (living large).

                        10mil is nice, but again, you are in the minor leagues of millionaire status. You can impress your childhood friends, but you are not a big player.

                        I have hung out with the $100 mil to the $1 billion crowd (for those of you who watch HSN - hint) and when you have your own jets, yachts, houses worldwide, and 100 people+ on payroll that you have never met you have reached player status. These are the people who pull down millions a year just in interest.

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                        • 49thParallel
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                          • Jul 2002
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                          #112
                          And on the utter bullshit meter I give this thread a 10

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                          • slapass
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                            • Nov 2002
                            • 14625

                            #113
                            Quiet,

                            2 mil in cash is not doing much for you. You should buy more real estate.
                            Trying to do that myself as interest rates just suck shit right now.

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                            • SleazyDream
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                              • Jul 2001
                              • 41470

                              #114
                              quiet - does this mean you won't be retiring this month?
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                              • BradShaw
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                                • Oct 2001
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                                #115
                                Originally posted by Diamond Jim
                                20 active guys with 5 mil is too many...

                                Same old shit, Rog.....work work work...practicing my Wendy's drive-thru pitch.....I'm gonna sell Homestyle Chicken Strips like a motherfucker....

                                Nobody works harder than RB....he deserves everything he gets...

                                I would say 20 is close. $5million net worth is not much. Amazing how anytime $ comes up, Diamond Jim is telling us how poor he is;-) I almost feel sorry for the poor guy!
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                                • BradShaw
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                                  #116
                                  Originally posted by Pornkings


                                  Quiet you have a different model then sponsors.

                                  for instants and I'm not bragging if I were to cash out now.
                                  and stop putting money back into the company and not payout webmasters in less then a year I would have 10 mill in an acount no prob.

                                  Do you know what I mean. But there is only a few who can do it cause most big guys already did one example babenet.

                                  sometimes when a company goes out of business its not because they fucked up it's because they cashed out.

                                  Roger, many of us "could" do the same thing, EXCEPT. CB issues, we need new transactions. Also, hard to have traffic coming in, if you are not outlaying any cash. I think the key is to find a good balance of taking $ out of the company, while still procuring your business long term.
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                                  • Pornkings
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                                    #117
                                    Originally posted by BradShaw



                                    Roger, many of us "could" do the same thing, EXCEPT. CB issues, we need new transactions. Also, hard to have traffic coming in, if you are not outlaying any cash. I think the key is to find a good balance of taking $ out of the company, while still procuring your business long term.
                                    I agree for the most part.

                                    But there are ways to get around the CB issues and ride it out till the well runs dry
                                    Last edited by Pornkings; 10-17-2003, 10:12 AM.
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                                    • quiet
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                                      • Sep 2001
                                      • 25115

                                      #118
                                      Originally posted by davidd



                                      He is 100% correct but based upon the time frame the statement was made, 100 mil minimum nowadays.

                                      1mil isn't shit, once you get there you realize it isn't enough to retire on (living large).

                                      10mil is nice, but again, you are in the minor leagues of millionaire status. You can impress your childhood friends, but you are not a big player.

                                      I have hung out with the $100 mil to the $1 billion crowd (for those of you who watch HSN - hint) and when you have your own jets, yachts, houses worldwide, and 100 people+ on payroll that you have never met you have reached player status. These are the people who pull down millions a year just in interest.
                                      you should post more often
                                      we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                      • Mutt
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                                        • Sep 2002
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                                        #119
                                        what was RB in People magazine for?
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                                        • kmanrox
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                                          • Oct 2001
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                                          #120
                                          that's kind of a stupid question, especially since my sources tell me nobody in our industry does 10 million per month on their affiliate program for membership sites....
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                                          • quiet
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                                            • Sep 2001
                                            • 25115

                                            #121
                                            Originally posted by kmanrox
                                            that's kind of a stupid question, especially since my sources tell me nobody in our industry does 10 million per month on their affiliate program for membership sites....
                                            apparently you need to read the thread again. we are talking 10 million net (ie after expenses and taxes). that's it
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                                            • kmanrox
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                                              • Oct 2001
                                              • 29295

                                              #122
                                              forgive me, i didnt realize we were talking about net worth =)


                                              10mil net worth is good, but i dont think it makes you anything but a smalltime player if you plan to retire and maintain your lifestyle....

                                              i wish i was worth half that hahaa

                                              hell a quarter wpuld be fine too =)
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                                              • kmanrox
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                                                • Oct 2001
                                                • 29295

                                                #123
                                                Originally posted by quiet


                                                apparently you need to read the thread again. we are talking 10 million net (ie after expenses and taxes). that's it
                                                as you can see, i dont read threads, i look at the subject, then make a post... rarely do i see a reply worth my time reading...
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                                                • kmanrox
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                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                  • 29295

                                                  #124
                                                  Originally posted by quiet


                                                  apparently you need to read the thread again. we are talking 10 million net (ie after expenses and taxes). that's it
                                                  and if we *are* talking about per month here, then 10mil NET (after taxes and shit) is not happening in our industry, not even for the big guys.
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                                                  • quiet
                                                    we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                                                    • Sep 2001
                                                    • 25115

                                                    #125
                                                    Originally posted by kmanrox


                                                    and if we *are* talking about per month here, then 10mil NET (after taxes and shit) is not happening in our industry, not even for the big guys.
                                                    no shit? lol
                                                    we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                                    • quiet
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                                                      • Sep 2001
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                                                      #126
                                                      it's simply a number KRL put out, that has become my current goal.

                                                      no big deal really.
                                                      we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                                      • Shooter
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                                                        • Apr 2001
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                                                        #127
                                                        Originally posted by Mutt
                                                        what was RB in People magazine for?
                                                        One of the most eligible bachelors in America or something like that...didn't see any mention of his non-Razor ventures though

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                                                        • quiet
                                                          we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                                                          • Sep 2001
                                                          • 25115

                                                          #128
                                                          interesting thread worth bringing back... does 10 M net = Player?
                                                          we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                                          • KRL
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                                                            • Oct 2002
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                                                            #129
                                                            For this industry I'd say so. In the real world no not even close. Most corporate execs still on the treadmill have that amount of wealth. The guys running the shows are at 9 to 10 figs now.
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                                                            • quiet
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                                                              • Sep 2001
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                                                              #130
                                                              Originally posted by KRL
                                                              For this industry I'd say so. In the real world no not even close. Most corporate execs still on the treadmill have that amount of wealth. The guys running the shows are at 9 to 10 figs now.
                                                              any stats on how many 10 fig (billionaires) there are in the world?
                                                              we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                                              • X37375787

                                                                #131
                                                                Originally posted by quiet


                                                                any stats on how many 10 fig (billionaires) there are in the world?

                                                                I don't care how many there are, but Oprah sure is the sexiest of them all.

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                                                                • KRL
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                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                  • 31429

                                                                  #132
                                                                  Originally posted by quiet


                                                                  any stats on how many 10 fig (billionaires) there are in the world?
                                                                  Forbes estimates 427 Billionaires in the world for 2003. Although there are a lot of folks who stay just below Forbe's radar. Its probably at least 5 to 10 times if you count combined family wealth.

                                                                  Like they always say Bill Gates is the richest at $40Bil. But if you group the main Walton family members together they are at $150 Billion as a family (Wal-Mart). Making Bill G look like chump change.

                                                                  There are a lot of old line families in the US like the du Ponts who pretty much control the entire state of Delaware who don't get mentioned that much because the fortune has been divided up into thousands of offspring. But combined its way way up there.

                                                                  Same thing with the Rockefeller family. Enormous and vast wealth but they only peg the main family members at a Bil and some under.
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                                                                  • scoreman
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                                                                    #133
                                                                    Originally posted by Equinox



                                                                    I don't care how many there are, but Oprah sure is the sexiest of them all.
                                                                    Id take that Onassis chick over Oprah any day, even if she does look a lil like Eddie Van Halen.

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                                                                    • scoreman
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                                                                      • Nov 2001
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                                                                      #134
                                                                      Speaking of billions, the WSJ reported today that the McDonald widow left 1.5 billion in a one time payout to the Salvation Army. Earlier this year that same Mcdonalds widow left $200 million to National Public Radio.

                                                                      Supposedly its the largest single charitable gift ever, although Gates will probably have that record one day. He is on record as saying he will only leave his heirs a small part of his fortune and he plans to use his money to change the world.

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                                                                      • quiet
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                                                                        • Sep 2001
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                                                                        #135
                                                                        Originally posted by scoreman
                                                                        He is on record as saying he will only leave his heirs a small part of his fortune and he plans to use his money to change the world.
                                                                        yes i heard that as well. however, i'd also heard that he'd already set up the largest charity the world has ever seen.

                                                                        *shrug*
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                                                                        • JFK
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                                                                          #136
                                                                          Originally posted by GeXus


                                                                          Someone a little jelous that their reality is that they only have several dollars.. but someone else is where you have dreamed about being all your life? But now you are at a point in your life, where you realized you just dont have what it takes to become a millionair?

                                                                          Its ok man, Alot of people spend there lives dreaming and wishing.. and alot of people get no where, you are just one in the pack.. no need to beet yourself up about it
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                                                                          • Xenophage
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                                                                            • Oct 2001
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                                                                            #137
                                                                            Originally posted by JFK


                                                                            There are the talkers, and then there are the doers
                                                                            I wanna be a talker

                                                                            10 mil is more than enough to live nice for life in really safe investments.

                                                                            but to be a player you need 500 mil this way ya can make 20 mil a year easy money or if ya risk it 50-70 mil a year....

                                                                            that lets ya buy 20 million estates in several continents and places on the planet and the jet to fly to them all and the staff to cater to your needs.

                                                                            but thats only if ya want that kinda life..

                                                                            the more you make the more isolated you get

                                                                            meaning its harder and harder to make and keep true friends

                                                                            everyone is always riding your jock to see what they can leach off ya

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                                                                            • Maximillion
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                                                                              #138
                                                                              this point has been brought up before - its all relative to the lifestyle you live and want to live.

                                                                              personally I can't wait to have the capital to start delegating this workload. I'm a jack-of-all-trades when it comes to webmastering but I am more of a scope and vision guy.

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                                                                              • Trax
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                                                                                #139
                                                                                Originally posted by LegendaryLars


                                                                                but thats only if ya want that kinda life..

                                                                                the more you make the more isolated you get

                                                                                meaning its harder and harder to make and keep true friends

                                                                                everyone is always riding your jock to see what they can leach off ya
                                                                                correct
                                                                                only way to avoid those problem is to not let everyone see what big player you are.
                                                                                be silent
                                                                                don't feel special - its only money
                                                                                don't be too arrogant and you will have no problem with friendship and isolation

                                                                                what people nowadays should start to learn is that money is not everything

                                                                                a lot of people - especially in this industry - should learn how to stay on the ground


                                                                                as far as the 10 million player thing goes
                                                                                even 5 million net make you a player in this biz for sure
                                                                                there is no doubt on that

                                                                                doesnt make you the biggest guy
                                                                                but a player for sure

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                                                                                • Xenophage
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                                                                                  #140
                                                                                  Originally posted by Trax


                                                                                  correct
                                                                                  only way to avoid those problem is to not let everyone see what big player you are.
                                                                                  be silent
                                                                                  don't feel special - its only money
                                                                                  don't be too arrogant and you will have no problem with friendship and isolation

                                                                                  what people nowadays should start to learn is that money is not everything

                                                                                  a lot of people - especially in this industry - should learn how to stay on the ground


                                                                                  as far as the 10 million player thing goes
                                                                                  even 5 million net make you a player in this biz for sure
                                                                                  there is no doubt on that

                                                                                  doesnt make you the biggest guy
                                                                                  but a player for sure

                                                                                  yeah if ya got 5 mil after tax your doing quite well ;)
                                                                                  compared to 99% of the other people on the planet

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                                                                                  • Krille
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                                                                                    #141
                                                                                    what would one be with $750 net

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                                                                                    • Xenophage
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                                                                                      #142
                                                                                      5 days mortgage payment

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                                                                                      • Trax
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                                                                                        #143
                                                                                        Originally posted by LegendaryLars



                                                                                        yeah if ya got 5 mil after tax your doing quite well ;)
                                                                                        compared to 99% of the other people on the planet
                                                                                        lol
                                                                                        yeah

                                                                                        but even $500k makes you do better than 98,9% of the worlds population hehe

                                                                                        its not that hard to be better than those

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                                                                                        • jayeff
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                                                                                          #144
                                                                                          In some businesses you can be an important figure with much less than $10 million. In others, that kind of money barely gets you in the door. Adnan Khashoggi used to be one of my clients and he apparently lost $10 million just through his involvement in the Iran/Contra arms affairs. His 1982 divorce supposedly cost him more than $800 million

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                                                                                          • Xenophage
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                                                                                            #145
                                                                                            i sometimes watch mtv cribs and sometime my house is kewler than the ones on there and sometimes I feel like a chump LOL

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                                                                                            • cosis
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                                                                                              #146
                                                                                              1 million seems like a player to me, hell 10 million is a god

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