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  • Greg B
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    • Jul 2001
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    #1

    Is The U.S. Turning Into Europe?

    Wait a minute. Oil & Gas prices, rising unemployment, terrorism, techno/trance music, socialistic illegal immigrant programs that wear the average citizen down.

    Are we turning into Europe?
  • GonePhishing
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    • Oct 2003
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    #2
    Well... Not until we have national health care.
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    • ryph
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      • Oct 2002
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      #3
      Well I guess I can't argue with most of that, but trance/techno? I'm preety sure that fad passed a few years back along with e.
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      • r0oster
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        • Jan 2004
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        #4
        Originally posted by Greg B

        Are we turning into Europe?
        You wish.

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        • Oracle Porn
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          • Oct 2002
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          #5
          The day the U.S. will turn into Europe will be a happy day!


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          • Webby
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            • Oct 2002
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            #6
            GonePublishing:

            Well... Not until we have national health care.
            How about *any* healthcare???
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            • Greg B
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              • Jul 2001
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              #7
              Originally posted by Webby
              GonePublishing:



              How about *any* healthcare???
              Golly gosh Webby, we can't have healthcare in the U.S.! People might get healthy and not run up ridiculously high hospital bills!

              Insurance companies would crash. That would leave no excess capital for the govt. to borrow against to pay off the exorbitant costs of protecting us from harm.

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              • r0oster
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                • Jan 2004
                • 66

                #8
                Europe owns the United States.

                And always will.

                That's just the way the world is.

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                • Webby
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                  • Oct 2002
                  • 14956

                  #9
                  Greg B:

                  Golly gosh Webby, we can't have healthcare in the U.S.! People might get healthy and not run up ridiculously high hospital bills!

                  Insurance companies would crash. That would leave no excess capital for the govt. to borrow against to pay off the exorbitant costs of protecting us from harm.
                  Ah.. I understand now!

                  Tho I can't help think "something" is wrong someplace...

                  Now.. about that trip to Mars ...
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                  • cluck
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                    • Dec 2002
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                    #10
                    YAY EUROPE!

                    We need much higher oil and gas prices.
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                    • Greg B
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                      • Jul 2001
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by cluck
                      YAY EUROPE!

                      We need much higher oil and gas prices.
                      Someone told me a pack of Marlboros goes for like $10 a pack in Europe. For them prices I better not hear of anybody dyin' of cancer cause it's too expensive to smoke.

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                      • cluck
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                        • Dec 2002
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Greg B


                        Someone told me a pack of Marlboros goes for like $10 a pack in Europe. For them prices I better not hear of anybody dyin' of cancer cause it's too expensive to smoke.
                        $10 a pack is wack. I don't even like paying $6.14 over here.

                        But really, the US treats gasoline like it's water. The hybrid electric cars really should be the standard in this day and age.
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                        • monro
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                          • Dec 2002
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                          #13
                          Please explain:
                          ( No comment from Darren please )

                          If you are being sick in the USA, say diabetes, how do you being treated and where to turn?

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                          • Greg B
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                            • Jul 2001
                            • 7014

                            #14
                            Originally posted by monro
                            Please explain:
                            ( No comment from Darren please )

                            If you are being sick in the USA, say diabetes, how do you being treated and where to turn?
                            Well, if you get sick in the U.S.A. and you're not wealthy, you're fucked.

                            UNLESS you're a felony offender in a prison, or an illegal alien immigrant.

                            If you're a taxpaying citizen who obeys the law you're too much in debt to pay for medical attention so your best bet is to leave the country, enter illegally, commit felony and do 3 years in a prison where your optical and dental are paid for by everbody else who is too stupid to do what you just did. You can also get a college degree too!

                            Let' see them do THAT in one of them famous Russian Gulags.

                            We're the USA, we do crime like KFC does chicken...RIGHT.

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                            • Loryn
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                              • Jul 2003
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Greg B


                              Golly gosh Webby, we can't have healthcare in the U.S.! People might get healthy and not run up ridiculously high hospital bills!

                              Insurance companies would crash. That would leave no excess capital for the govt. to borrow against to pay off the exorbitant costs of protecting us from harm.
                              Yeah, like us Americans want our hospitals looking like the fucking DMV. Please no one here in America is denied health care.
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                              • cluck
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                                • Dec 2002
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Loryn-Adult.com


                                Yeah, like us Americans want our hospitals looking like the fucking DMV. Please no one here in America is denied health care.
                                They're not DENIED it, they just have to deal with the repo man when it's time to pay the bills
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                                • fuelcell
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by r0oster
                                  Europe owns the United States.

                                  And always will.

                                  That's just the way the world is.

                                  hahahaha....might want to look over your shoulder and check out that American Military Base in your backyard. Estimates run from 800 to over a 1,000 American bases overseas. All part of our "footprint" stomping on your European ass.

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                                  • Loryn
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                                    • Jul 2003
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by cluck


                                    They're not DENIED it, they just have to deal with the repo man when it's time to pay the bills
                                    If they have a of a fucking brain they don't.
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                                    • Loryn
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                                      • Jul 2003
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by fuelcell



                                      hahahaha....might want to look over your shoulder and check out that American Military Base in your backyard. Estimates run from 800 to over a 1,000 American bases overseas. All part of our "footprint" stomping on your European ass.

                                      ~ loryn@loryntaylor . com ~




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                                      • the real magoo
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                                        • Sep 2001
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Greg B

                                        Are we turning into Europe?
                                        The day you are paying 70% in taxes you will

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                                        • Webby
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                                          • Oct 2002
                                          • 14956

                                          #21
                                          Sheesh.. there are loads of stupid folks around! :-) This has denegrated into some "US V Europe" shit with wild statements hahahahahaded.

                                          As a matter of record, there is a severe US problem in this world, not just with Europe. This ranges from a series of very bad "relationships" to a totally fucked economy, which, in a few short years, other nations will own 40% of the total US economy.

                                          As for Europe.. "Someone told me a pack of Marlboros goes for like $10 a pack in Europe." .. Well.. they lied. But sure ain't far off $10 a pack!!!
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                                          • Chris E
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                                            • Jan 2003
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by r0oster


                                            You wish.

                                            Agreed. We have history and class, something you can't buy! ;)

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                                            • MetaMan
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                                              • Jan 2003
                                              • 28682

                                              #23
                                              Euro is for freaked out trash people.
                                              the only half decent Euros are from Ukraine and Britain, the rest is a drop in the bucket.

                                              North America runs the world, i hoep we never turn into a Euro country, the fashion and accents would make me puke.

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                                              • Lane
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                                                • Apr 2001
                                                • 8496

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by fuelcell



                                                hahahaha....might want to look over your shoulder and check out that American Military Base in your backyard. Estimates run from 800 to over a 1,000 American bases overseas. All part of our "footprint" stomping on your European ass.

                                                http://alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=17563

                                                be afraid...be very afraid
                                                I doubt that he was talking about power. But it seems like that's all you care about.
                                                The conversation is about living standards and you bring in the military.

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                                                • Loryn
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                                                  • Jul 2003
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Webby
                                                  Sheesh.. there are loads of stupid folks around! :-) This has denegrated into some "US V Europe" shit with wild statements hahahahahaded.

                                                  As a matter of record, there is a severe US problem in this world, not just with Europe. This ranges from a series of very bad "relationships" to a totally fucked economy, which, in a few short years, other nations will own 40% of the total US economy.

                                                  As for Europe.. "Someone told me a pack of Marlboros goes for like $10 a pack in Europe." .. Well.. they lied. But sure ain't far off $10 a pack!!!
                                                  Why don't you go packing with your Marlboros in the moutains of Europe and get lost.
                                                  ~ loryn@loryntaylor . com ~




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                                                  • Webby
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                                                    • Oct 2002
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                                                    #26
                                                    Loryn-Adult.com

                                                    Why don't you go packing with your Marlboros in the moutains of Europe and get lost.
                                                    Back to a state of denial???

                                                    If you actually have something to say and want to claim this is not the case, - feel free!!
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                                                    • Roger
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                                                      • Jul 2003
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                                                      #27
                                                      Nice to see the maturity level around here.

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                                                      • iroc409
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                                                        • Jan 2003
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                                                        #28
                                                        socialized healthcare would not work in the states period.

                                                        besides, people can get what they need with a little effort. it's kinda like 'work', but not really
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                                                        • cluck
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Loryn-Adult.com


                                                          If they have a of a fucking brain they don't.
                                                          So only smart people have a right to both get healthcare and have money?
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                                                          • 12clicks
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                                                            • Jan 2001
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                                                            #30
                                                            too bad the euro trash in this thread won't be here 4-5 years from now to bring back these dopey ideas and throw them in their face.

                                                            It must be cool to live with your european head in the sand and be told you have a high standard of living with good health care.

                                                            When was the last time someone wanted the best teatment available hopped a plane and headed for europe?
                                                            I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                            • candyflip
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                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                              • 43073

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                              When was the last time someone wanted the best teatment available hopped a plane and headed for europe?
                                                              There's probably someone boarding a plane to do this right now. There are lots of treatments for lots of different medical conditions that aren't approved yet in the US, but are in Europe.

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                                                              • r0oster
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                                                                • Jan 2004
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by 12clicks

                                                                When was the last time someone wanted the best teatment available hopped a plane and headed for europe?
                                                                Why don't you stop trolling and look it up?

                                                                We all know you like statistics.

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                                                                • Webby
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                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                  • 14956

                                                                  #33
                                                                  12clicks:

                                                                  too bad the euro trash in this thread won't be here 4-5 years from now to bring back these dopey ideas and throw them in their face.

                                                                  It must be cool to live with your european head in the sand and be told you have a high standard of living with good health care.

                                                                  When was the last time someone wanted the best teatment available hopped a plane and headed for europe?
                                                                  It takes a bit of effort to look up and find something equal to these idiot "words" - they guy is demented.
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                                                                  • r0oster
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                                                                    • Jan 2004
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Webby
                                                                    12clicks:



                                                                    It takes a bit of effort to look up and find something equal to these idiot "words" - they guy is demented.
                                                                    He is funny to watch though. You've got to give him that.

                                                                    His rant that he would not obey the new law and would continue talking on his hand held phone while driving.

                                                                    Funny shit.

                                                                    "Screw any accidents I may cause, screw the law ... I'm talking on my phone! I refuse to buy a hands free kit or just pull over like normal law abiding people!"

                                                                    I've watched his posts on other forums too. Search for "Standard Internet" at JimWorld.com and a bunch of other heavily trafficked mainstream forums.

                                                                    Sometimes, he really doesn't know when to stop arguing.

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                                                                    • HarlotCash Dyker
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                      too bad the euro trash in this thread won't be here 4-5 years from now to bring back these dopey ideas and throw them in their face.

                                                                      It must be cool to live with your european head in the sand and be told you have a high standard of living with good health care.

                                                                      When was the last time someone wanted the best teatment available hopped a plane and headed for europe?
                                                                      I think you want to get your head out of the sand -

                                                                      Several European counties have specialists who leave the US in their wake -
                                                                      Even small countries which were wartorn till recently are now producing specialist treatment never before seen.

                                                                      In America - If you can't pay for it - You are dead -

                                                                      In Europe, if you can't pay for it - You are looked after -

                                                                      America is good at some things, best in others, worst in many.

                                                                      Just like any other country.
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                                                                      • Honeyslut
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Loryn-Adult.com


                                                                        Yeah, like us Americans want our hospitals looking like the fucking DMV. Please no one here in America is denied health care.
                                                                        Yes, we are denied service all the time . They just do it in a sneaky way of not treating you correctly. Amercians are told it's all in their head and there is nothing wrong. Blah blah blah One fucking excuse after another.

                                                                        Woo hoo.. Paxil and prozac cures all !



                                                                        My examples:

                                                                        1. I had asthma as a child and told about 4 different doctors that I thought I had it 15 years ago. Allergy testing proved I probably did. I was not confirmed that I had it til a year ago when my new Female doctor who does not play the system game agreed and started treating me.

                                                                        2. My daughter was denied getting her back checked out 3 years ago because of the system. Daughter now wears a back brace.

                                                                        3. My hub has been giving the run around for years and told nothing wrong. Wrong. Brain tumor in his pituitary gland. Probably been there for atleast 20 years.



                                                                        I could go on and on about the fuck ups.


                                                                        yes, you may get to see a doctor but 95 percent of the time , you will not be treated in the correct matter.
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                                                                        • Honeyslut
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Webby
                                                                          GonePublishing:



                                                                          How about *any* healthcare???
                                                                          so fucking true...
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                                                                          • myjah
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                                                                            • Sep 2003
                                                                            • 11482

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by cluck


                                                                            $10 a pack is wack. I don't even like paying $6.14 over here.

                                                                            But really, the US treats gasoline like it's water. The hybrid electric cars really should be the standard in this day and age.
                                                                            $6.14 ??? DAMN! I would never pay that much for cigs. The highest they've gone here is $3.50 and I won't pay that much. I frequent the discount cig outlets.
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                                                                            • Webby
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                                                                              • Oct 2002
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Honeyslut:

                                                                              yes, you may get to see a doctor but 95 percent of the time , you will not be treated in the correct matter.
                                                                              Gotta agree with you! There are many excellent docs, but the system fails em badly. Add to that the incestuous relationship between politicians and the "drug cartels" - none of that is in the interests of anyone in the US or "taking care" of folks.

                                                                              Hell.. even the fish in rivers are high on prozac and got a dose of birth control pills :-)
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                                                                              • Rictor
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                                                                                • Jan 2001
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Greg B
                                                                                Wait a minute. Oil & Gas prices, rising unemployment, terrorism, techno/trance music, socialistic illegal immigrant programs that wear the average citizen down.

                                                                                Are we turning into Europe?
                                                                                We need to raise the price of cigarettes more. They're still too cheap.

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                                                                                • Dirty F
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                                                                                  • Jul 2001
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Once again 12clicks proves that being beyond stupid is possible.

                                                                                  Bunch of idiots.

                                                                                  Maybe you guys should realize Europe has different countries and different cultures. "Turning into Europe"
                                                                                  Thats the same as saying Russian and Australia are similar.

                                                                                  People who dont have a clue whats happening in other parts of the world shouldnt be opening threads about it.

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                                                                                  • pornJester
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    "...its over, nobody listens to techno"


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                                                                                    • Dirty F
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Look someone made a pic of the world through gregs eyes.

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                                                                                      • Dirty F
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                                                                                        • Jul 2001
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Greg B


                                                                                        Someone told me a pack of Marlboros goes for like $10 a pack in Europe. For them prices I better not hear of anybody dyin' of cancer cause it's too expensive to smoke.
                                                                                        The only place ever where i paid more than 5 bucks for cigarettes is the US.

                                                                                        I guess you also heard stories that we still live in caves and that all the Dutch wear clogs?

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                                                                                        • HarlotCash Dyker
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Battuss
                                                                                          Look someone made a pic of the world through gregs eyes.


                                                                                          Brilliant!
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                                                                                          • Libertine
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Some simple facts about living in the Netherlands (that's a country in Europe, for those that don't know):
                                                                                            • I pay &euro;3.30 for a pack of cigarettes (Gauloises, but Marlboro costs about the same)
                                                                                            • Crime is reasonably low
                                                                                            • Health care is good, as are health insurance programs
                                                                                            • No terrorism here
                                                                                            • Teen pregnancy is extremely uncommon
                                                                                            • Great universities, accessible even if you don't have rich parents
                                                                                            • You won't get arrested for peddling porn or selling sex toys


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                                                                                            • RicardoB
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                              too bad the euro trash in this thread won't be here 4-5 years from now to bring back these dopey ideas and throw them in their face.

                                                                                              It must be cool to live with your european head in the sand and be told you have a high standard of living with good health care.

                                                                                              When was the last time someone wanted the best teatment available hopped a plane and headed for europe?
                                                                                              The man is right. I am european and when I needed to have my mother's cancer treated The Mayo Clinic in Rochester did what everybody over here claimed was impossible.

                                                                                              They came up with a specialy designed chemo treatment and without all the side effects chemo usualy has the cancer was destroyed.

                                                                                              The reason the USA is ahead on medical treatments is the way their system works. Their specialists have a lot more to loose then ours. If a hospital does not come up with certain treatments investors stop pouring money into the hospital so the presure to perform is high.

                                                                                              Over here it's funded by the government so there is no real presure which makes us walk behind the facts coming out of the USA.

                                                                                              Each system has their upsides and downsides but when it comes to revolutionary treatments the USA is the place to look no doubt in my mind.

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                                                                                              • RicardoB
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by punkworld
                                                                                                Some simple facts about living in the Netherlands (that's a country in Europe, for those that don't know):
                                                                                                • I pay &euro;3.30 for a pack of cigarettes (Gauloises, but Marlboro costs about the same)
                                                                                                • Crime is reasonably low
                                                                                                • Health care is good, as are health insurance programs
                                                                                                • No terrorism here
                                                                                                • Teen pregnancy is extremely uncommon
                                                                                                • Great universities, accessible even if you don't have rich parents
                                                                                                • You won't get arrested for peddling porn or selling sex toys


                                                                                                If the weather was better, it'd be perfect
                                                                                                And we can smoke weed legally

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                                                                                                • Theo
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                                                                                                  • May 2001
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  what are we gonna do? franco un-american



                                                                                                  btw,cigarettes in london are 10euro+ from what i remember

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                                                                                                  • icedemon
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Greg B


                                                                                                    Well, if you get sick in the U.S.A. and you're not wealthy, you're fucked.

                                                                                                    UNLESS you're a felony offender in a prison, or an illegal alien immigrant.

                                                                                                    If you're a taxpaying citizen who obeys the law you're too much in debt to pay for medical attention so your best bet is to leave the country, enter illegally, commit felony and do 3 years in a prison where your optical and dental are paid for by everbody else who is too stupid to do what you just did. You can also get a college degree too!
                                                                                                    When I was poor, I used to just go to the university hospital. University hospitals are always free if you don't make much money. Even if you do make alot, you just tell them you don't. Everybody in the US can get free health care. It's just a matter if knowing where and how. My brother used to even go to the university hospital for his dental work. This was up in Seattle. Don't remember the name of the hospital, but it's the one not too far from the Amazon.com building. Just go over the bridge and up the hill alittle.
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