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Old 08-22-2004, 02:39 PM  
SmokeyTheBear
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EPASSPORTE pay attention !!! <--

Hopefully we can get one thread with some clear answers..

let me start off by saying epassporte is a GREAT SERVICE.

Far surpassing paypal in aspects such as

ease-of-use
transfer-costs
useability

We do realise you dont want to disclose all of your fraud techniques etc etc.

We also realise you cant always disclose account details publicly.

We also realise fraud does occur and this isn't new

So you can skip the rhetoric when you reply.


Heres is some of the problems i have/hear ...

Recently you closed a sponsor account that was suspected of fraud, you also closed all the affiliates accounts and seized ALL money associated with these account ( and possibly from account that had anything to do with these account )

Now i will propose yet again another few examples..

Scammer1 starts a sponsor account to hide the fact he is running stolen credit card numbers.

Scammer1 gets his buddy scammer2 and scammer3 to sign up with the sponsor ( him ) and run stolen credit cards through it , then he gets INNOCENT1 INNOCENT2 etc etc to also sign up for the sponsor so as not to make the credit card chargebacks suspicious..

Now when epassporte finds this group they suspend everyone including innocent1 thru innocent50. How are these innocent people supposed to recoup the lost money..

I realise its awfully hard to discern who is innocent and who is guilty , but it seems as it stands your treating everyone as guilty regardless. how do you propose on solving this problem more effeciently.


Okay that is one question i have heard alot... Heres another i keep asking


How as an epassporte user am i supposed to protect and/or recoup myself from fraud epassporte users..


MrGullible own domain-r-us and sells domains.
MrScammer has just loaded a fraud epassporte account and buys a domain from MrGullible

epassporte catches MrScammer and takes back the money for the domain and seizes both accounts.

Now MrGullible cant sell domains and he has lost all his money . How does MrGullible get his money back and how does he get his domain back ? And how will he be able to continue business not knowing from one day to another if his account will be open or closed ??

SOLUTIONS TIME.. !!!!!!

Heres a few simple solutions that could be modified.


When a user sends or recieves money from an unknown/untrusted person sponsor, they could put the transfer in a protected status that ensures the transfer is legit.

Maybe an extra 24 hours for the transfer to go thru to check and make sure its ok ( INSURED )

just for unknown transfers , so as to protect yourself from giving away something that cannot be recouped.

As it stands if you use epassporte at anytime your money could be seized and withheld for any length of time for reasons beyond the control of the user.. i.e. someone simply loads a fraud card and sends you money
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