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Doh! It wouldn't let me post because of the 45 sec limit.Originally posted by woj
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Good luck man! I did the Atkins diet a couple years ago, and it totally worked. I went from 185lbs to 140lbs.
Best part is, I managed to keep it off without needing to diet again.If Biff Fucks My Mom... I Might Never Be Born...Comment
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You honestly think this is bullshit???Originally posted by Corona
Total bullshit!
Could you explain how this is hard on the body?
You think sending your body into "survival mode" is healthy???
Here's why atkins works. Carbs are your body's #1 source of energy. When you remove them from your diet you go into STARVATION MODE. This is why you loose weight. Your body starts using fat as a source of energy... however it's also using muscle! That's right! While your shedding lbs of fat, your also becoming a WEAKLING! Your muscles go into a cannibalistic state and they become your source of energy because at this point your EXTREMELY malnutritioned!
I've seen many people go on this Atkins diet.... all have lost 20-60lbs each... and guess what??? As soon as they stopped the diet they gained EVERY POUND BACK... PLUS SOME!
You people are fooling yourselves thinking that a diet of steak and cheese is going to make you a healthy person.
Like I said earlier... this diet is for LAZY fuckers that don't stand a chance in the first place.
You want to loose some weight and get fit??? Try going to the fucking GYM!!!!
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Wrong. Putting your body into Ketosis is not the same as starving yourself and so does not consume muscle.Originally posted by market4s
Here's why atkins works. Carbs are your body's #1 source of energy. When you remove them from your diet you go into STARVATION MODE. Your body starts using fat as a source of energy... however it's also using muscle!
You mean that as soon as someone resumes eating in a way that made them fat in the first place they will get fat again? Amazing.As soon as they stopped the diet they gained EVERY POUND BACK... PLUS SOME!
Who said you can't do both?Like I said earlier... this diet is for LAZY fuckers that don't stand a chance in the first place.
You want to loose some weight and get fit??? Try going to the fucking GYM!!!!I was looking for a job, and then I found a job
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Originally posted by Corona
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Look for a better alternative. Atkins will definitely take the pounds off, but will kill your energy leve along the way. As soon as you try to go back to a more balanced diet... kaboom! you gain all your weight back and then some.
don't do it.Comment
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The low carb diets do not kill your energy level at all. When your on the diet you don't have the bloodsugar peaks and valleys and so most people actually have more energy.Originally posted by Steelhead
Look for a better alternative. Atkins will definitely take the pounds off, but will kill your energy leve along the way. As soon as you try to go back to a more balanced diet... kaboom! you gain all your weight back and then some.
don't do it.
If you go back to a BALANCED diet you will not gain the weight back. If you go back to the typical American diet you will gain it back but since that is what got you overweight in the first place what else would you expect.I was looking for a job, and then I found a job
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Here's why atkins works. Carbs are your body's #1 source of energy. When you remove them from your diet you go into STARVATION MODE. Your body starts using fat as a source of energy... however it's also using muscle!
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Wrong. Putting your body into Ketosis is not the same as starving yourself and so does not consume muscle.
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As soon as they stopped the diet they gained EVERY POUND BACK... PLUS SOME!
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You mean that as soon as someone resumes eating in a way that made them fat in the first place they will get fat again? Amazing.
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Like I said earlier... this diet is for LAZY fuckers that don't stand a chance in the first place.
You want to loose some weight and get fit??? Try going to the fucking GYM!!!!
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Who said you can't do both?
You are extremely misinformed, and this is not even worth arguing with you.
Maybe I should quit my part time job as a personal trainer and go on the atkins diet.
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Originally posted by market4s
You are extremely misinformed, and this is not even worth arguing with you.
Maybe I should quit my part time job as a personal trainer and go on the atkins diet.
Show me where I am wrong.I was looking for a job, and then I found a job
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If you don't go at the gym you'll regain those 5-10 kilos after. There's no special secret method to lose weight. Hit the gym to lose weight or gain muscle is the best thing to do.Originally posted by Video-Post
For breakfast I had 5 eggs, 4 steaks Tartar, a pack of cheese and a salami. Somehow I doubt that this "diet" works but hey I'll give it a shot and my fatso guts is loving it
Gotta lose like 5-10 kilos (11-22 lbs)
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listen up asshat, doesn't matter what your build is, unless you have a miserable metabolism, you want to have at LEAST 1.5 grams of protein entering your system per pound of body weight when working out. now, that aside, carbs turn into glucose which gets stored in fat cells if not burned off. maybe you should quit as a part time trainer and I take overOriginally posted by market4s
You are extremely misinformed, and this is not even worth arguing with you.
Maybe I should quit my part time job as a personal trainer and go on the atkins diet.
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WRONG AGAIN!Originally posted by Corona
The low carb diets do not kill your energy level at all. When your on the diet you don't have the bloodsugar peaks and valleys and so most people actually have more energy.
If you go back to a BALANCED diet you will not gain the weight back. If you go back to the typical American diet you will gain it back but since that is what got you overweight in the first place what else would you expect.
Even through a HEALTHY DIET, after atkins weight goes back on as FAT, leaving you with more fat and less protein than you started off with, which leaves you feeling even more out of shape than before, and can start off a vicious circle of yo-yo dieting.
Yo-yo dieting messes up your metabolism, and may even raise the levels of harmful cholesterol in the blood, increasing your risk of arterial disease and heart problems.
Low-carbohydrate and high-protein plans are potentially dangerous. The diets often contain too much saturated fat and not enough fibre, and lack of carbohydrates puts the body into ketosis. Ketosis is the abnormal metabolic state with unpleasant side effects such as bad breath, nausea, and puts you into a catabolic state! Meaning that it causes you to lose muscle. That's a fact! . The diet can also place a strain on the kidneys. The 'science' behind the diet has been disagreed with by every health professional on the planet!
Get a CLUE before spouting info like it's fact. Sure, you may have "results" with Atkins... but it sure as hell is the WRONG way to go about getting healthy!
Good luck, your going to need it. Oh, and watch out for high blood pressure, because your at SERIOUS risk of a heart attack before 40 with your methodology.
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The Atkins diet works by reducing the carb intake. Most friends I've seen try it have dropped 15 to 20 lbs. However its very hard to stay on indefinitely, and usually by about 3 to 6 months the cravings overwhelm the mind because now that they are skinnier they think ok I have room for some carbs again and they go right back where they were before.
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Did I say it mattered what your build was??? Furthermore did I say anything about getting enough protein???Originally posted by com
listen up asshat, doesn't matter what your build is, unless you have a miserable metabolism, you want to have at LEAST 1.5 grams of protein entering your system per pound of body weight when working out. now, that aside, carbs turn into glucose which gets stored in fat cells if not burned off. maybe you should quit as a part time trainer and I take over
Try reading my post next time before opening your mouth. mmmmk?
Belive whatever the hell you want... Just know this one truth. Crash diets may work for a short period of time. However the only way to be healthy and stay healthy is through a good diet and exercise.
Diet & exercise... what's so hard to comprehend about this? You really think these extreme diets are the way to go???
I feel sorry for ya'll as you'll never make it past they yo-yo faze into good health with this mindset.Comment
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You have not shown that I am wrong once let alone wrong again.Originally posted by market4s
WRONG AGAIN!
You really have no idea of what you are talking about. After reaching the weight you want you slowly increase your carbs to a point where you are not losing any more but are not gaining. How is that going to make you fat again?Even through a HEALTHY DIET, after atkins weight goes back on as FAT, leaving you with more fat and less protein than you started off with, which leaves you feeling even more out of shape than before, and can start off a vicious circle of yo-yo dieting.
Low-carbohydrate and high-protein plans are potentially dangerous. The diets often contain too much saturated fat and not enough fibre, and lack of carbohydrates puts the body into ketosis. Ketosis is the abnormal metabolic state with unpleasant side effects such as bad breath, nausea, and puts you into a catabolic state! Meaning that it causes you to lose muscle. That's a fact! . The diet can also place a strain on the kidneys. The 'science' behind the diet has been disagreed with by every health professional on the planet!
You are so full of shit.
The notion that the Atkins will force your body to break down muscle is incorrect. Only individuals on very low-calorie diets can lose muscle mass, because they have an inadequate protein intake.
So long as you have extra body fat, ketosis is safe and natural. There is nothing harmful, abnormal or dangerous about ketosis.
Philadelphia., PA -- A 3-center study led by researchers at the Weight and Eating Disorders Program of the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine reports the results of the first controlled trial of the Atkins Diet. The Atkins Diet limits carbohydrates but permits unrestricted amounts of protein and fat. Compared to a conventional, high- carbohydrate, low-calorie approach, Atkins dieters lost twice as much weight at 3 and 6 months but there was no difference between the groups at 1 year. Despite the lack of differences in weight loss at 1 year, the Atkins dieters had significantly greater increases in good cholesterol (HDL) and greater decreases in triglycerides.
The study, to be published in the May 22 issue of the New England Journal of Medicine, was led by Gary Foster, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Psychiatry and Clinical Director of the Weight and Eating Disorders Program at the University of Pennsylvania. Samuel Klein, MD of Washington University in St. Louis and James Hill, Ph.D. and Holly Wyatt, M.D. of the University of Colorado were the lead investigators at the other centers.I was looking for a job, and then I found a job
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I stopped wasting my time on these kinds of threads...especially when a "physical trainer," tries to dispell what a Doctor was able to prove over the course of many years *decades even ;) * so don't even try.Originally posted by Corona
Show me where I am wrong.
Honestly I don't understand why people are worried about how other's diet, lose weight etc.
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You are sadly mistaken. Many health care professional *read doctors* are starting to notice the benefits of this diet.Originally posted by market4s
The 'science' behind the diet has been disagreed with by every health professional on the planet!
So with that I bow out of this thread, because you have shown either 1. Your ignorance. 2. Your prejudice, or both.For rent - ICQ 127-027-910
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market4s is not completely wrong in his thinking. I agree with him where eating healthy and proper exercise is the best way to go...alot of ppl think that once they're on the atkins diet that's all they have to do. eating properly is great! but u also need to exercise in order to maintain the weight loss and get blood flowing and muscles working as well...
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What this says is correct-o-mundo! I have lost 35 lbs of ugly since my wife and I started and she has lost more! It works if you read the book and do it right.Originally posted by Centurion
Whoa dude! It's one thing to limit carbs..but it's another to overkill on total calories!
Atkins doesn't give you license to eat all you want of certain types of food. It just asks you to LIMIT the amount of carbs you intake..especially during the first 2-3 weeks of the diet, so your body will start burning fat instead of carbs.
So make it 2-3 eggs max & maybe ONE steak tartar for breakfast. Eat sensibly..and remember to try and keep your carb intake to or under 20 grams daily for the first 2-3 weeks.
Good luck on the diet!
Keep up the good work
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Um.. I disagree. I'm diabetic and I have to watch consumption of any carbs because they spike my blood sugar. I've read Dr. Atkins' books. Have you?Originally posted by market4s
Low-carbohydrate and high-protein plans are potentially dangerous.
His diet is often misinterpreted. It's not about eating 5 lbs of bacon a day, it's about restricting carbs. The first 2 weeks are pretty extreme, but then you move on to eating more vegetables.
You don't have to eat bacon and pork fat. You can eat chicken and fish and other low fat meats.
I'm replacing my white flour carbs with veggie carbs. I'm replacing white starches with whole grains. I'm eating more meat instead of more carbs. My doctor says I'm 100% on track and my blood test results echo that.
It's not an easy, quick fix, but it's better than eating a big bowl of pasta and taking more glucophage like the US Food Pyramid wants me to do.Bush can no more fire Rove than Charlie McCarthy could fire Edgar Bergen.Comment
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Another fucktard offers up totally false information.Originally posted by flashfire
Dr. Atkins himself died of a heart attack...
He died from a FALL ON THE ICE when he hit his head causing severe brain damage!! DOH!
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Do you know how many people on gfy now hate your ass for this!?Originally posted by com
im not on the atkins diet.. i have always had an excuciatingly high meat intake. if i was on atkins i probably shouldnt have a double serving of hash browns either. im 5'10" 145 pounds without working out, and i jump up to 175 when working out after 2 months... so im keeping myself stable
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Uh huh uh huh...just waltz in here and tell us something with no supporting evidence.Originally posted by Gspothottie
Atkins diet is extrememly hard on the body and can cause liver or kidney failure...I would think twice about it but good luck either way I guess
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And the invasion of the "I don't know nothin and I'm going to post to prove it!" clones!!Originally posted by market4s
Sure... atkins works! So does a heavy coke habit! You may loose weight, but it sure as hell isn't good for your body!
Try a HEALTHY diet... and a little EXERCISE!
Fuckin lazy people... YOU HAVE TO WORK HARD FOR RESULTS!
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Right on!Originally posted by Corona
The low carb diets do not kill your energy level at all. When your on the diet you don't have the bloodsugar peaks and valleys and so most people actually have more energy.
If you go back to a BALANCED diet you will not gain the weight back. If you go back to the typical American diet you will gain it back but since that is what got you overweight in the first place what else would you expect.
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Maybe you should actually read and learn about what the Atkins diet is really about before you go posting again!Originally posted by market4s
You are extremely misinformed, and this is not even worth arguing with you.
Maybe I should quit my part time job as a personal trainer and go on the atkins diet.
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You're like Bush... "Iraq helped the terrorists attack us on 9/11!"Originally posted by market4s
WRONG AGAIN!
Even through a HEALTHY DIET, after atkins weight goes back on as FAT, leaving you with more fat and less protein than you started off with, which leaves you feeling even more out of shape than before, and can start off a vicious circle of yo-yo dieting.
Yo-yo dieting messes up your metabolism, and may even raise the levels of harmful cholesterol in the blood, increasing your risk of arterial disease and heart problems.
Low-carbohydrate and high-protein plans are potentially dangerous. The diets often contain too much saturated fat and not enough fibre, and lack of carbohydrates puts the body into ketosis. Ketosis is the abnormal metabolic state with unpleasant side effects such as bad breath, nausea, and puts you into a catabolic state! Meaning that it causes you to lose muscle. That's a fact! . The diet can also place a strain on the kidneys. The 'science' behind the diet has been disagreed with by every health professional on the planet!
Get a CLUE before spouting info like it's fact. Sure, you may have "results" with Atkins... but it sure as hell is the WRONG way to go about getting healthy!
Good luck, your going to need it. Oh, and watch out for high blood pressure, because your at SERIOUS risk of a heart attack before 40 with your methodology.
MISINFORMATION!
"WHEN you leave this diet..you get all the weight back!"
WHEN you leave ANY diet and are not working out...OF COURSE you gain the weight back. DOH!
As has been pointed out here..this is a LIFESTYLE change..so pople change HOW and WHAT they eat and continue on leading a normal life and are simply modifying their carb intake!Comment
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Maybe true for some..but not for most.Originally posted by KRL
The Atkins diet works by reducing the carb intake. Most friends I've seen try it have dropped 15 to 20 lbs. However its very hard to stay on indefinitely, and usually by about 3 to 6 months the cravings overwhelm the mind because now that they are skinnier they think ok I have room for some carbs again and they go right back where they were before.
I've done a lot of reading on this subject, and have been on the "diet" (lifestyle change) since 03/03. I've lost 45 pounds in less than 6 months, and haven't put it back on.
I don't get hungry, don't have cravings I can't handle. I do give myself "treats"..but I learned to eat SENSIBLY along with working out.
I'm comming up on 1 year and I'm not about to change my dietary habits.Comment
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Where do you guys keep comming up with "ppl think that once they're on the atkins diet, that's all they have to do"?Originally posted by Odie
market4s is not completely wrong in his thinking. I agree with him where eating healthy and proper exercise is the best way to go...alot of ppl think that once they're on the atkins diet that's all they have to do. eating properly is great! but u also need to exercise in order to maintain the weight loss and get blood flowing and muscles working as well...
Atkins and all of the people who write the cookbooks, diet books that are carb related EMPHASIS the need for excercise and working out.
IF people are not working out..it's not because Atkins says there is no need to..it's because they are badly uninformed or poorly motivated to work out. But then that's true of ANY diet, not just Atkins.Comment
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Atkins is great. The long-term key is to get past induction and work enough good carbs (those with lower glycemic impact) into your diet so you stick with it. This is the ultimate challenge. Sure, people who go back to pounding the simple carbs (sugar, white flour, rice, pasta, potatoes) are gonna gain it right back - just like with any diet. People who only do Atkins hardcore (meat, cheese, eggs) to drop some quick weight are always gonna have trouble with yo-yoing because that kind of diet is not maintainable. Also, I don't think any Atkins follower woud ever say that exercise and healthy living isn't important.Last edited by hottoddy; 01-16-2004, 12:00 PM.- *** -Comment
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I am not a fan of atkins. Everyone I have seen go on it, put weight back on. I lost 50+ lbs 2 years ago and have kept it off. Simple, low fat, cardio.Sig too big
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I ended up taking it off with atkins and then keeping it off with moderately watching what I eat, and working a little. Strong emphasis on working out a little.
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right on bradOriginally posted by BradShaw
I am not a fan of atkins. Everyone I have seen go on it, put weight back on. I lost 50+ lbs 2 years ago and have kept it off. Simple, low fat, cardio.
it's amazing how lazy people can't understand this. healthy diet & cardio is all you need!
oh, and Centurion.... you better not get too worked up over this thread here hon. you might just have a coronary.
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Oh..my laughing my ass off at your dumb comments is giving me a good cardio workout by itself.Originally posted by market4s
right on brad
it's amazing how lazy people can't understand this. healthy diet & cardio is all you need!
oh, and Centurion.... you better not get too worked up over this thread here hon. you might just have a coronary.
It's amazing how lazy people like yourself can't understand that there are several ways to lose weight. But then, some people like yourself reach a limit on learning at about age 8 I believe.Comment
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Atkins works, my mom lost a lot of weight on it when she started in this summer. I too am thinking about hopping on it as a lifestyle change, I am thin, but I like the health aspect of it.
As for market4s - If I was a personal trainer, I would be talking hella shit about the Atkins diet too! If people can get thinner without your help, then you aren't getting paid, and you become worthless.Comment
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me lazy?Originally posted by Centurion
Oh..my laughing my ass off at your dumb comments is giving me a good cardio workout by itself.
It's amazing how lazy people like yourself can't understand that there are several ways to lose weight. But then, some people like yourself reach a limit on learning at about age 8 I believe.
bro, i wake up at 6 am every morning and run 8 miles... when i'm done running I go to work.... when i'm done working I hit the gym... when i get back from the gym I fuck my hot girlfriend.... then i go party and drink beer. YES BEER! Because I work my ass off all day I can eat/drink whatever I want, whenever I want.
I've worked with people that have come off atkins. Were they skinny? Yeah, sometimes. I'll tell you one thing though... they all had one common trait. J E L L O for muscles! Atkins causes muscle loss and that is FACT!
I'm done arguing this with you. It's obvious that your not open to any GOOD advice.
Good luck to you.... maybe someday you'll see the light.
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Originally posted by SexxxyChat-T
Atkins works, my mom lost a lot of weight on it when she started in this summer. I too am thinking about hopping on it as a lifestyle change, I am thin, but I like the health aspect of it.
As for market4s - If I was a personal trainer, I would be talking hella shit about the Atkins diet too! If people can get thinner without your help, then you aren't getting paid, and you become worthless.
Your confusing being skinny with being in shape. Two totally different things. Atkins will make you skinny, sure. Exersise however will get you in shape.
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Keep in mind a few things.
"you will gain it back when you eat NORMAL again""
Yes, this is true. If you go back to eating a High carb diet and
making poor food choices you will gain the weight back.
"Atkins is a lifestyle."
Damn right it is. and I would suggest anyone who is going to try this lifestyle to spend a couple of dollars and by the book. It explains everything in great detail . If your gonna spend the money might as well know what to buy.
I am down from 235 to 175 has been off for 18months. This way of life started working for me when I stopped listening to others , read the book, and followed the directions. it's not hard, you just need to be commited.
I eat well, I work out, I feel better than ever and have never had a problem..
Old diet.
breakfast: Then- Frosted Flakes NOW_ Bacon and Eggs/w cheese
Snack: Then-Bag of Chips NOw- Pepperoni
Lunch: Then _ Big Mac Fries and coke NOW- Hot Wings and
Ice Tea
Dinner- Then- Hamburger fucking Helper, veggie, bread,
NOw- Steak- greenbeans- and whole wheat.
Snack- Then- Big Ass bowl of Ice Cream NOW- Big Ass Bowl of Atkins Low Carb Ice Cream.
And about 64oz of water a day.
I am not starving. but if I chose to change back eating like the fat fuck I was............I would gain the weight back. And I wouldn't be able to blame Atkins for it.Comment
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I like guys with some muscle on them.
Atkins is for wimps.
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this fucking diet is tough, ive tried it UNINFORMED ... but then my brother did it right, read all the shit, its amazing the shit you can eat ... and after you lose the amount you want you can increase daily carbs and hopefully realize its important to get excercise. my bro lost serious fucking weight, and looks HAPPY again ;)
i think there should be some moderation in everything, but if you really inform yourself about the shit you can eat and do this right it does work, who gives a flying fuck if its not 100% healthy, what is? eating fatburgers every day? if you are smart about it instead of living off bacon then it seems fairly healthy and balanced to me.
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This thread is about diet. No one here is arguing that exercise (cardio) isn't highly beneficial.Originally posted by market4s
Your confusing being skinny with being in shape. Two totally different things. Atkins will make you skinny, sure. Exersise however will get you in shape.
Do you still subscribe to the FDA food pyramid? Even the most anti-Atkins nutritionists have been forced to rethink past ideas, and now conceed that simple carbs (white foods) are bad. Other popular diets (South Beach, Zone, Sugar Busters) are simply derivative of Atkins, and disguise themselves so people can pretend their not relly following Atkins.
The number one thing that reduces the risk of a variety diseases is weight loss. So, losing weight all by itself is better than staying fat but hitting the treadmill everyday. Reducing simple sugar intake has shown to greatly improve cholesterol levels, blood pressure, arterioscelorsis, C reactive protein (inflammation) and blood sugar levels(diabetics), in addition to excess weight.- *** -Comment
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i've been on this diet for about 3 months now.
i haven't lost any weight, but i sure look thinner and feel healthier.SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.Comment
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Mack describes it best and probably knows more about nutrition through eating right than the best government educated, fitness training guru on the planet.
If you don't like a diet based on low carbs it's because it busts your bubble.
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If he wasn't so skinny his fat ass would have protected his fall and prevented him from hitting his damn head.Originally posted by Centurion
Another fucktard offers up totally false information.
He died from a FALL ON THE ICE when he hit his head causing severe brain damage!! DOH!
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good luck with it. It worked great, but I sure got sick of eating the same foods.
However its very easy to put the weight back on soon as you come off it.
Much better to just eat better and limit your calories under 1500 if you can a day.Comment
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If you want real science vs. profiteering, there you go. Food types have something called a glycemic load. The people mentioning maintaining glucose levels, carbs play a role in that, but so does saturated fat and a bunch of other factors.
I'll take Harvard over a multi-million dollar marketing machine for objective opinions on diet and health.
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YEAH and as if you would ever need it, skinny mrs skin skinOriginally posted by FreeNetPass Jenefer
Atkins diet is crap!
It'll come off but it wont stay off....
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