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  • Moose
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2001
    • 1548
    #51
    Originally posted by Choker


    LOL, whatever. Worship me? LOL, I really don't care if anyone uses this service or not. Defensive? Phatservers has done nothing but attack this service. When the solution to their problem was presented, they made a excuse for not using it and continue to whine and whine and whine.
    No one is whining cocker. We are just pointing out to webmasters there is a flaw in your system and we have not been down for 36 hours. Yes we do have the right to defend ourselves.
    And if you dont think we havnt been contacted by our customers over this...your wrong.



    Oh..and 50 more hours of downtime.

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      • Choker
        Confirmed User
        • Apr 2001
        • 9024
        #52
        Originally posted by chodadog


        Exactly.

        Also, can someone answer this.

        If in a 24 hour period, a host has 10 servers go down for 1 hour, that's 10 hours of downtime. The total time being monitoried is actually 240 hours. Is the percentage calculated on 24 hours (41 percent), or 240 hours (4%)?
        240 hours
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          • Choker
            Confirmed User
            • Apr 2001
            • 9024
            #53
            Originally posted by Moose


            No one is whining cocker. We are just pointing out to webmasters there is a flaw in your system and we have not been down for 36 hours. Yes we do have the right to defend ourselves.
            And if you dont think we havnt been contacted by our customers over this...your wrong.
            Oh..and 50 more hours of downtime.
            You have not been down yet you stated before you took his site down? WTF man, get your story straight. If you take a site down for non-payment, delete the plugin and no time is counted against you. Simple solution yet you can't do this one simple thing?
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            The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/

            Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers.
            http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

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              • Moose
                Confirmed User
                • Feb 2001
                • 1548
                #54
                Originally posted by Choker


                You have not been down yet you stated before you took his site down? WTF man, get your story straight. If you take a site down for non-payment, delete the plugin and no time is counted against you. Simple solution yet you can't do this one simple thing?

                Do I need to slow down for you?


                the 36 hours I am refering to is the 36 hours that is listed on your site that we have not been down.

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                  • 4Pics
                    Confirmed User
                    • Dec 2001
                    • 7952
                    #55
                    Here's a solution Choker, since Phatservers seems to not like your system, why not have them provide the class c ips they have then ban them from using your service.

                    By them I mean clients of Phatservers.

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                      • grumpy
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Jan 2002
                        • 9870
                        #56
                        few sugestion for choker.
                        First : say your script monitors sites and not servers. If script is removed then server / host is stil up.

                        second : doenst matter how many machines you run..if they all go down 1 hour, then downtime is one hour. Example..the whole internet goes down for 1 hour...that means there is no internet for one hour and not one hour times the servers connectd ...just my

                        Don't let greediness blur your vision | You gotta let some shit slide
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                          • Moose
                            Confirmed User
                            • Feb 2001
                            • 1548
                            #57
                            Originally posted by 4Pics
                            Here's a solution Choker, since Phatservers seems to not like your system, why not have them provide the class c ips they have then ban them from using your service.

                            By them I mean clients of Phatservers.
                            4pics
                            I like the service. What I dont like is it showing 36 hours of downtime for a customer who did not pay his bills and having my sales staff have to explain this more than once to customers or potentials.

                            Now if these things can be worked out and shown accuratly I am all for it...I think it is a good thig cause there is alot of shit hosts ripping people off daily around here.
                            Last edited by Moose; 01-15-2004, 08:00 PM.

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                              • grumpy
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Jan 2002
                                • 9870
                                #58
                                other sugestion. If a script is installed shouldnt you not only get the info from the script but als ping the machine. If ping is oke...site is down but server is up.
                                Don't let greediness blur your vision | You gotta let some shit slide
                                icq - 441-456-888

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                                  • Choker
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Apr 2001
                                    • 9024
                                    #59
                                    Originally posted by 4Pics
                                    Here's a solution Choker, since Phatservers seems to not like your system, why not have them provide the class c ips they have then ban them from using your service.

                                    By them I mean clients of Phatservers.
                                    Nah, there are 120 guys using this service right now to monitor their sites. This is the main purpose of this script. The table showing all the hosts uptime and downtime is more of a afterthought than anything. I have yet to get one complaint from anyone other than hosts. I think I will reset the hosts total downtime since in all fairness until the 13th if someone deleted the plugin it would report the site as down.
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                                      • 4Pics
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Dec 2001
                                        • 7952
                                        #60
                                        What's to stop someone from getting a cheap virtual account at Isprime, Phatservers, and writing another script to purposely make them look bad. All the while having an account elsewhere that is up all the time?

                                        I think the service should just provide the data to webmaster, and maybe after its been running a few months then maybe show your Choker Top 5 hosts based on certain data you gathered.

                                        Moose, I was not meaning anything bad about your hosting, but you guys seem to be the only host complaining, and to a degree you have a right cause you really weren't down 40 real hrs.

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                                          • Choker
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Apr 2001
                                            • 9024
                                            #61
                                            Originally posted by grumpy
                                            few sugestion for choker.
                                            First : say your script monitors sites and not servers. If script is removed then server / host is stil up.

                                            second : doenst matter how many machines you run..if they all go down 1 hour, then downtime is one hour. Example..the whole internet goes down for 1 hour...that means there is no internet for one hour and not one hour times the servers connectd ...just my

                                            But then the math does not add up as we show total time of each site monitored
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                                            The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/

                                            Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers.
                                            http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

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                                              • Turboface
                                                Back in Black
                                                • Mar 2002
                                                • 9976
                                                #62
                                                Sweet! I was just gonna make a post the other night about services like this.

                                                Search Engine Optimization Services for Adult Sites

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                                                  • grumpy
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Jan 2002
                                                    • 9870
                                                    #63
                                                    Originally posted by Choker


                                                    But then the math does not add up as we show total time of each site monitored
                                                    thats solved when you monitor sites. It would be correct if it said that site xxx was down one hour and site xyz.
                                                    both sites have been down one hour. Total downtime on the sites is two hours. Total downtime on the server is one hour.
                                                    Don't let greediness blur your vision | You gotta let some shit slide
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                                                      • chodadog
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Apr 2002
                                                        • 9736
                                                        #64
                                                        Originally posted by Choker


                                                        You have not been down yet you stated before you took his site down? WTF man, get your story straight. If you take a site down for non-payment, delete the plugin and no time is counted against you. Simple solution yet you can't do this one simple thing?
                                                        Uhm, so, if the client does then pay his bill, late, he should come back to an empty server? Yeah. That'll go down real well.

                                                        26 + 6 = 1

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                                                          • Choker
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Apr 2001
                                                            • 9024
                                                            #65
                                                            http://www.betterbeup.com/

                                                            There, every host has a clean slate now. I will NEVER EVER do this again. Only because until the 13th if the plugin was deleted the site was considered down.

                                                            umm, give it a few minutes to reset all hosts to 0. Cache thingy
                                                            Last edited by Choker; 01-15-2004, 08:15 PM.
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                                                            The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/

                                                            Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers.
                                                            http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

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                                                              • grumpy
                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                • Jan 2002
                                                                • 9870
                                                                #66
                                                                http://www.thehun.com.br/ the hun will like this one in that list ...
                                                                Don't let greediness blur your vision | You gotta let some shit slide
                                                                icq - 441-456-888

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                                                                  • sixxxth_sense
                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                    • Nov 2003
                                                                    • 2430
                                                                    #67
                                                                    CHOKER SOMEONE STOLE YOUR DESIGN! ! !
                                                                    fucked asshole lets kill'm


                                                                    j/k


                                                                    great service!!!

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                                                                      • Choker
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Apr 2001
                                                                        • 9024
                                                                        #68
                                                                        Originally posted by chodadog


                                                                        Uhm, so, if the client does then pay his bill, late, he should come back to an empty server? Yeah. That'll go down real well.
                                                                        The host only has to delete the plugin, not his site
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                                                                        The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/

                                                                        Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers.
                                                                        http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

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                                                                          • NedFLanders
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Jul 2002
                                                                            • 412
                                                                            #69
                                                                            Good luck man
                                                                            omgwtfbbq

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                                                                              • RockDaddy
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Jul 2001
                                                                                • 750
                                                                                #70
                                                                                I agree, this is borderline false advertising and potentially damaging to a companies business.

                                                                                It is NOT monitoring the hosting company it is monitoring individual sites and already I don't want to do business with a couple of hosting companies on there based on this report. Even though I know it COULD be something else, I don't KNOW that it IS something else.

                                                                                What if someone has their own unmanaged box and fucks their own stuff up? Bad report on the HOSTING company.

                                                                                What if someone doesn't pay their bill and rather than just rushing in and deleting everything on their site (as suggested) they want to give the customer an opportunity to pay and not lose everything.

                                                                                There HAS to be some liability issues here somewhere.

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                                                                                  • RockDaddy
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                                    • 750
                                                                                    #71
                                                                                    The host only has to delete the plugin, not his site
                                                                                    This post was made while I was typing above.
                                                                                    How does the hosting company know what you are running on your own boxes or even 400+ of their own?

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                                                                                      • romans
                                                                                        Registered User
                                                                                        • Jan 2004
                                                                                        • 10
                                                                                        #72
                                                                                        Originally posted by Choker
                                                                                        http://www.betterbeup.com/

                                                                                        There, every host has a clean slate now. I will NEVER EVER do this again. Only because until the 13th if the plugin was deleted the site was considered down.

                                                                                        umm, give it a few minutes to reset all hosts to 0. Cache thingy
                                                                                        hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahaha=
                                                                                        YES, it's total reset. All downtimes and uptimes and stats are zeroed.

                                                                                        From now on you DON'T have to delete plugnis. 404 is NOT causing downtime.
                                                                                        hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahaha=
                                                                                        PEBKAC

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                                                                                          • Choker
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Apr 2001
                                                                                            • 9024
                                                                                            #73
                                                                                            Originally posted by RockDaddy
                                                                                            I agree, this is borderline false advertising and potentially damaging to a companies business.

                                                                                            It is NOT monitoring the hosting company it is monitoring individual sites and already I don't want to do business with a couple of hosting companies on there based on this report. Even though I know it COULD be something else, I don't KNOW that it IS something else.

                                                                                            What if someone has their own unmanaged box and fucks their own stuff up? Bad report on the HOSTING company.

                                                                                            What if someone doesn't pay their bill and rather than just rushing in and deleting everything on their site (as suggested) they want to give the customer an opportunity to pay and not lose everything.

                                                                                            There HAS to be some liability issues here somewhere.
                                                                                            Nope. No liability here. I am reporting the truth. Nothing more nothing less. If someone wishes to sue me because this program reported the truth then so be it. The "truth" is as it is posted on the site..........

                                                                                            Warning
                                                                                            The above table represents only the servers that have installed our plugin and that this service is actively monitoring. This service DOES NOT take into account server downtime due to DNS problems, sites shut down by the host, acts of God, etc. If the monitored site does not respond for ANY reason BBU will consider this site down and count this downtime up to 24 hours against the hosts total downtime. We do not guarantee the accuracy of this page, nor do we represent any of the hosting companies being monitored


                                                                                            There is no simple solution for al lthe scenerios everyone brought up.
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                                                                                            The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/

                                                                                            Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers.
                                                                                            http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

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                                                                                              • chodadog
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Apr 2002
                                                                                                • 9736
                                                                                                #74
                                                                                                Yes there is. Provide the service for individuals like every other monitoring program. Don't publically display the downtime information, 'cause more often than not, it's going to be inaccurate.
                                                                                                26 + 6 = 1

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                                                                                                  • Superterrorizer
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Sep 2003
                                                                                                    • 509
                                                                                                    #75
                                                                                                    Originally posted by chodadog
                                                                                                    Yes there is. Provide the service for individuals like every other monitoring program. Don't publically display the downtime information, 'cause more often than not, it's going to be inaccurate.
                                                                                                    What he said.

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                                                                                                      • <IMX>
                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                        • Jun 2002
                                                                                                        • 2728
                                                                                                        #76
                                                                                                        That would be too rational
                                                                                                        Originally posted by chodadog
                                                                                                        Yes there is. Provide the service for individuals like every other monitoring program. Don't publically display the downtime information, 'cause more often than not, it's going to be inaccurate.
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                                                                                                          • 50 Cent
                                                                                                            Registered User
                                                                                                            • Dec 2002
                                                                                                            • 293
                                                                                                            #77
                                                                                                            Originally posted by Sly_RJ

                                                                                                            Choker I have no problem with you. In fact, I even like you. It's your script I don't like. It's missing some logic in it. That missed logic is hurting me and my business. Why shouldn't I be pissed off?

                                                                                                            Those 36 hours that we're credited with are from some guy who didn't pay his bills. Yes Choker, when someone doesn't pay their bills, we cut them off whether they're running your downtime script or not. Now because we're running our business properly, we get "check marks" from you.

                                                                                                            I now have pissed off clients and questionable potential clients because of your "helpful" site. You're damaging my business because of false information represented by you.



                                                                                                            I can see how this can hurt your reputation sly, I would sue for incorrect infomation.

                                                                                                            --

                                                                                                            Here's a scenario for you: say I buy some traffic from you, straight United States traffic (this is hypothetical, I don't know your regional restrictions.) Traffic starts coming to my galleries and I notice some Chinese traffic coming in to (some Chinese site took my gallery and I didn't notice it) my gallery. Now I'm pissed off because I think you're sending me Chinese traffic. I build a quick site to rate the various traffic brokers I buy from. Right next to your link I put a big fat notice "SENDS CHINESE TRAFFIC". I proceed to show all my friends. You lose business and current clients.

                                                                                                            How happy would you be?

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                                                                                                              • 50 Cent
                                                                                                                Registered User
                                                                                                                • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                • 293
                                                                                                                #78
                                                                                                                Originally posted by Moose


                                                                                                                No one is whining cocker. We are just pointing out to webmasters there is a flaw in your system and we have not been down for 36 hours. Yes we do have the right to defend ourselves.
                                                                                                                And if you dont think we havnt been contacted by our customers over this...your wrong.



                                                                                                                Oh..and 50 more hours of downtime.
                                                                                                                Moose why not firewall his ips so he can't run his scripts. I agree with you 100% this script has major flows in it and can damage reputation. Just my

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                                                                                                                  • 50 Cent
                                                                                                                    Registered User
                                                                                                                    • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                    • 293
                                                                                                                    #79
                                                                                                                    Moose and another thing, he is displaying Phatservers name on his website, which without your consent he can not do.

                                                                                                                    If a webmaster wants to monitor his sites with a script that's fine let the webmaster display uptime of his/her domain.

                                                                                                                    I smell whole bunch of lawsuites comming

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                                                                                                                      • RockDaddy
                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                        • 750
                                                                                                                        #80
                                                                                                                        Ok, I didn't sit up all night thinking about this, but this just came to me.

                                                                                                                        List the SITES name that is being monitored ALONG with the hosting companies name. That way if ALL the sites hosted by one company were showing downtime, you could be pretty sure it was a hosting issue and not the owner of imadufas.com messing with his dns settings again.

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                                                                                                                          • com
                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                            • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                            • 4541
                                                                                                                            #81
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by 50 Cent


                                                                                                                            Moose why not firewall his ips so he can't run his scripts. I agree with you 100% this script has major flows in it and can damage reputation. Just my
                                                                                                                            I personaly do not want to have to blacklist his IP off 400+ servers in our one local datacenter. Let alone anywhere else. Choker needs to either make his code public so we can locate and resolve any problems in the logic behind it or cease to decist. This is BS, from a technical standpoint that is.

                                                                                                                            Real. Professional. Hosting.
                                                                                                                            .:Expect Nothing Less:.
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                                                                                                                              • com
                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                • 4541
                                                                                                                                #82
                                                                                                                                Originally posted by RockDaddy
                                                                                                                                Ok, I didn't sit up all night thinking about this, but this just came to me.

                                                                                                                                List the SITES name that is being monitored ALONG with the hosting companies name. That way if ALL the sites hosted by one company were showing downtime, you could be pretty sure it was a hosting issue and not the owner of imadufas.com messing with his dns settings again.

                                                                                                                                Real. Professional. Hosting.
                                                                                                                                .:Expect Nothing Less:.
                                                                                                                                320-078-843 :: www.realprohosting.com :: [email protected]

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                                                                                                                                  • myjah
                                                                                                                                    Back in the harbor
                                                                                                                                    • Sep 2003
                                                                                                                                    • 11482
                                                                                                                                    #83
                                                                                                                                    nice - i likes alot! good idea!
                                                                                                                                    VP of Marketing
                                                                                                                                    AVN Media Network
                                                                                                                                    Skype: AVNJill
                                                                                                                                    [email protected]

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                                                                                                                                      • com
                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                        • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                        • 4541
                                                                                                                                        #84
                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by myjah
                                                                                                                                        nice - i likes alot! good idea!
                                                                                                                                        awesome idea, terrible implimentation

                                                                                                                                        Real. Professional. Hosting.
                                                                                                                                        .:Expect Nothing Less:.
                                                                                                                                        320-078-843 :: www.realprohosting.com :: [email protected]

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                                                                                                                                          • dirtysouth
                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                            • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                            • 2613
                                                                                                                                            #85
                                                                                                                                            Phatservers is golden in my book. I've leased a dedicated box from them for several months now and have had no problems whatsoever. Average response time to support request is 20 minutes. Took a real beating over new years with a video gallery hun listing AND I got FARKED the same day. Not one hiccup or decrease in performance.
                                                                                                                                            no sig

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                                                                                                                                              • senseidru
                                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                                • 1767
                                                                                                                                                #86
                                                                                                                                                I also believe this is a bad idea and misleading for the visitor. I understand you have a disclaimer thing that explains it all but most people wont read that, the table is showing downtime for hosts, not for individual sites. I think this is a very bad idea.

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                                                                                                                                                  • Rocky
                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                    • 3022
                                                                                                                                                    #87
                                                                                                                                                    i'm either dyslexic or need glasses

                                                                                                                                                    cause everytime i read betterbeup.com my brain tells me that the domain is buttercup.com
                                                                                                                                                    Are you down with Sin?

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                                                                                                                                                      • Choker
                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                        • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                        • 9024
                                                                                                                                                        #88
                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by 50 Cent
                                                                                                                                                        Moose and another thing, he is displaying Phatservers name on his website, which without your consent he can not do.

                                                                                                                                                        If a webmaster wants to monitor his sites with a script that's fine let the webmaster display uptime of his/her domain.

                                                                                                                                                        I smell whole bunch of lawsuites comming

                                                                                                                                                        Please show me a precedent that says I have to have a sites permission to link to them.
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                                                                                                                                                        The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/

                                                                                                                                                        Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers.
                                                                                                                                                        http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

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                                                                                                                                                          • Choker
                                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                            • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                            • 9024
                                                                                                                                                            #89
                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by RockDaddy
                                                                                                                                                            Ok, I didn't sit up all night thinking about this, but this just came to me.

                                                                                                                                                            List the SITES name that is being monitored ALONG with the hosting companies name. That way if ALL the sites hosted by one company were showing downtime, you could be pretty sure it was a hosting issue and not the owner of imadufas.com messing with his dns settings again.
                                                                                                                                                            I have considered this. Problem is the sheer number of domains being monitored. If we can come up with a solution using this method.
                                                                                                                                                            ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466

                                                                                                                                                            Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com

                                                                                                                                                            The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/

                                                                                                                                                            Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers.
                                                                                                                                                            http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

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                                                                                                                                                              • RockDaddy
                                                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                                • 750
                                                                                                                                                                #90
                                                                                                                                                                Damn, Webair is down 18% of the time

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                                                                                                                                                                  • RockDaddy
                                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                                    • 750
                                                                                                                                                                    #91
                                                                                                                                                                    I have considered this. Problem is the sheer number of domains being monitored. If we can come up with a solution using this method.
                                                                                                                                                                    I dont' know. You are using a database surely, use some grouping and sorting functions. Next to each host, place a link to sort the sites listed on that host, then people can get the bigger, whole picture. ??? Just one idea.

                                                                                                                                                                    And try to have it divide the total time down by the number of sites hosted so that you are comparing apples to apples.

                                                                                                                                                                    You reset all numbers late last night to zero yet it LOOKS like webair has been monitored quite a bit longer and has a lot more downtime when actually they just have more sites being monitored.

                                                                                                                                                                    You can do it

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                                                                                                                                                                      • webair
                                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                        • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                                                                        • 8531
                                                                                                                                                                        #92
                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by RockDaddy
                                                                                                                                                                        Damn, Webair is down 18% of the time
                                                                                                                                                                        This system is obviously false and misleading at best...Do you think if we had been down for 12 hours there wouldn't be complaints all over this board about it? =))

                                                                                                                                                                        An indication that this system is flawed is choker stated that he reset the program to zero last night it now says Webair has been down for 12 hours, 12 hours hasn't elapsed yet =) according to my watch at least =) ... Not to mention had phat servers been down for as many hours as previously reported don't you think someone would have flamed them all over GFY?

                                                                                                                                                                        Anyhow, it's obvious that this is technology unreliable...If anyone uses this to choose a host they are silly, as they are relying on UNRELIABLE INFORMATION. I honestly don't know what they are monitoring but I for one am happy it's not accurate or the phones would have been off the hook last night =)

                                                                                                                                                                        In my opinion if it's not monitoring network uptime its useless. There are several other reputable monitoring services that are offering valid, tested, monitoring technology. I suggest using something that offers reliable information.

                                                                                                                                                                        I have used this one in the past and its been pretty accurate: http://www.internetseer.com/
                                                                                                                                                                        Last edited by webair; 01-16-2004, 08:06 AM.


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                                                                                                                                                                          • DR_PHIL
                                                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                                            • 4099
                                                                                                                                                                            #93
                                                                                                                                                                            The proof will be in the his own stats if the program works or not. For example he has both rackshack and ev1(same company lol). Now lets see if they keep the same downtime or if most of the downtime occurs with dumbasses killing their machines. If that is the case, the system will not be useful.

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                                                                                                                                                                              • webair
                                                                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                • 8531
                                                                                                                                                                                #94
                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by DR_PHIL
                                                                                                                                                                                The proof will be in the his own stats if the program works or not. For example he has both rackshack and ev1(same company lol). Now lets see if they keep the same downtime or if most of the downtime occurs with dumbasses killing their machines. If that is the case, the system will not be useful.

                                                                                                                                                                                well we won't know now that you gave it away


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                                                                                                                                                                                  • RockDaddy
                                                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                    • 750
                                                                                                                                                                                    #95
                                                                                                                                                                                    Webair, easy solution.
                                                                                                                                                                                    Just set up one box with 100 virtual sites on it with 100 of these scripts to monitor. Your downtime will be very low quick and look like you've been monitored for years.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Choker
                                                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                        • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                        • 9024
                                                                                                                                                                                        #96
                                                                                                                                                                                        I will either list the ips of each host being monitored under thier name and list each ips downtime

                                                                                                                                                                                        or

                                                                                                                                                                                        I will just take the stats page down. The stats page showing the hosts uptime is not even what this porgram is about. How many of you that are complaining have even seen the page that a user sees?

                                                                                                                                                                                        >>>>> http://betterbeup.com/ch_04/webmaste...ains&user=demo

                                                                                                                                                                                        This is what this program is all about.

                                                                                                                                                                                        I really do not have time for anymore of this shit. I did not realize that so many webmasters can look at the stats page and not understand that it does not necesarily reflect that hosts network.
                                                                                                                                                                                        I make jackshit off this program and cannot spare time defending this program. If you want to use it fine, if not that's fine too.
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • RockDaddy
                                                                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                            • 750
                                                                                                                                                                                            #97
                                                                                                                                                                                            How many of you that are complaining have even seen the page that a user sees?

                                                                                                                                                                                            >>>>> http://betterbeup.com/ch_04/webmast...mains&user=demo
                                                                                                                                                                                            I hadn't, looks good.
                                                                                                                                                                                            You are not defending anything as far as I'm concerned. I'm just fucking around right now. Most people are always looking for weak points and ways to make something better. If that doesn't describe you, sorry. No harm meant.

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