What do you know now that you wish you had known when you first started out?

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • BRISK
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Feb 2003
    • 12240

    #1

    What do you know now that you wish you had known when you first started out?

    Here is my thought provoking question of the day:

    What do you know now that you wish you had known when you first started out?
    I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
    I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.
  • Tofu
    The Video Specialist
    • Jul 2003
    • 5615

    #2
    1. Promote what you are truly into, and you will make a killing.
    2. Big dogs hire newbies so they can pay them much less.
    tofu916 video services - tofu916.com
    twitter: tofu916 | skype: tofu916 | tel: 916-672-TOFU | e: tofu # tofu916.com

    Comment

    • Peaches
      Old broad
      • Oct 2002
      • 13933

      #3
      I wish I knew when I started that type in domains were worth a fortune and that AOL wasn't always going to use DMOZ results.

      Comment

      • johnbosh
        Confirmed User
        • Aug 2002
        • 8965

        #4
        Originally posted by BRISK
        Here is my thought provoking question of the day:

        What do you know now that you wish you had known when you first started out?
        what not to do

        Comment

        • BRISK
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Feb 2003
          • 12240

          #5
          Originally posted by Tofu-Adult.com
          1. Promote what you are truly into, and you will make a killing
          Always a good one
          I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
          I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

          Comment

          • Trax
            [----------------------]
            • Aug 2001
            • 14486

            #6
            what i know about search engines now

            Comment

            • polish_aristocrat
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Jul 2002
              • 40377

              #7
              I wish I had bought some type-in domains back in the 90's.
              I don't use ICQ anymore.

              Comment

              • buddyjuf

                #8
                don't trust people on the internet so easy
                don't do business with Mr Cash

                Comment

                • aaron
                  Confirmed User
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 4452

                  #9
                  idont know anything about mr cash but definitely do not trust everyone you meet

                  Comment

                  • Buff
                    GFY Assassin
                    • May 2003
                    • 2993

                    #10
                    I wish I had known R-n Levi, like Mike AI did!!!

                    R-n Levi Makes a Cajun Boy RICH!!!

                    Comment

                    • amph
                      Confirmed User
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 1245

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Peaches
                      I wish I knew when I started that type in domains were worth a fortune
                      MEATCASH PWNZ THE INTERWEB
                      ____________
                      ICQ:30768214
                      ~~~~~~~~~

                      Comment

                      • JohnV
                        Confirmed User
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 928

                        #12
                        Originally posted by BRISK


                        Always a good one
                        Always good to have passion about the topics your promoting....great one Tofu-Adult.com
                        Email me: john -at- teenmodels.com
                        ICQ:153043903

                        Comment

                        • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                          best designer on GFY
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 30307

                          #13
                          If I had the Balls to do what I am doing now back in 97 I would have went into business for myself.

                          Instead I have spent my career time making everyone else rich...

                          Comment

                          • mistersoft
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 1021

                            #14
                            Originally posted by BRISK
                            Here is my thought provoking question of the day:

                            What do you know now that you wish you had known when you first started out?
                            That it is very easy to start promoting values I do not like - and that I feel like shit after doing that for a while.
                            SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

                            Comment

                            • HarlotCash Dyker
                              Confirmed User
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 1828

                              #15
                              When I started in 1996, I assumed all people had the same amount of honesty as me -

                              What a stupid conception.
                              !!!Harlot Cash<<>>Harlot Cash<<>>Harlot Cash<<>>Harlot Cash!!!

                              Comment

                              • raceman
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 1064

                                #16
                                How to realise that the fucking dip stick trying to sell you a scam is nothing more than a "fucking dip stick" and you steer clear of them.

                                That includes potential staff that sell you a "I'm the greatest line"

                                RACEMAN
                                "ILLEGITIMIS NON CARBORUNDUM" <-- "DON'T LET THE BASTARDS GRIND YOU DOWN"

                                General Joe Stiwell

                                ICQ: 213-684-158

                                Comment

                                • Head
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Nov 2003
                                  • 8278

                                  #17
                                  everything!
                                  But really i wish i knew all the scammers who fucked me over!

                                  Comment

                                  • TheLegacy
                                    SEO RobertWarrenSEO.com
                                    • Apr 2003
                                    • 18192

                                    #18
                                    1) work the boards as I am now
                                    2) understand traffic management
                                    3) know the top best return for my dollar on banner placement
                                    4) who to trust and not too
                                    5) webmaster lists are gold and at the beginning I should have spent more time collecting them
                                    6) the better parties to hang out at
                                    7) attend more seminars and ask more questions
                                    8) that there really is a gay and str8 mafia and who is in it
                                    9) to beat acacia to the patent office to avoid this shit
                                    10) know who my friends are now

                                    RobertWarrenSEO.com
                                    Telegram: @TheLegacy54

                                    Comment

                                    • Matt 26z
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Apr 2002
                                      • 18481

                                      #19
                                      Here's some things that really hampered me at first I think...


                                      1. Fifty percent of this industry can't be trusted to a certain degree. There's a lot of untalented individuals who have chosen to conduct shady business online instead of going back on welfare and working low-end manual labor jobs. They will do anything to avoid their old life. Know who you are dealing with, always.

                                      2. Some big guys are actually clueless in terms of today's market. So be careful who you listen to no matter who they are. Use common sense based on what you do know today to discern if it's still valid.

                                      3. There are business models in some circles that have evolved to essencially become a glass ceiling for newbies and struggling webmasters if you get caught up into them.

                                      4. Many people at the top got there by running more sites than they talk about on the boards. Sometimes that's good, sometimes that's bad.

                                      5. There's always someone on the boards acting like an expert of an area they actually know absolutely nothing about.

                                      6. If a sponsor is screwing with their own customers in any way, then there's a good chance they are screwing with their affiliates too.

                                      7. Run sites as if they were your non-profit hobby.

                                      8. Resource site tutorial articles are always massively incomplete (there are no exceptions to this), and are many times written by industry rejects.

                                      9. Never ever lose touch with the surfer side of yourself. You will either fail, or cut yourself short at the least.

                                      10. The ratios claimed by people looking for an affiliate referral are almost always bogus.

                                      Comment

                                      • Steve
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Feb 2001
                                        • 6894

                                        #20
                                        I wish I knew short ICQ UIN's would be so valuable in a few years.

                                        Comment

                                        • Rorschach
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Aug 2002
                                          • 5579

                                          #21
                                          1) That you don't have to have or use content to get traffic.
                                          2) That life would be much more pleasant and I would make a lot more money once everything was automated.

                                          Comment

                                          • Shoplifter
                                            Richest man in Babylon
                                            • Jan 2002
                                            • 5867

                                            #22
                                            Almost everyone, including supposed reputable registered and established companies in all facets of the industry are scammers.
                                            I Like Blondes

                                            Comment

                                            • ColBigBalls
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Aug 2003
                                              • 1733

                                              #23
                                              Boys have a penis and girls have a vagina

                                              Comment

                                              • yeviking
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Sep 2003
                                                • 589

                                                #24
                                                Great thread!

                                                Comment

                                                • Ash@phpFX
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                  • 4292

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by yeviking
                                                  Great thread!

                                                  Comment

                                                  • Jamie
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Apr 2001
                                                    • 2517

                                                    #26
                                                    In 97 Content was king
                                                    Now Traffic is king
                                                    CelebPay: Promote Celebrity Reviews
                                                    i/c/q - :1851935

                                                    Comment

                                                    • KRL
                                                      Entrepreneur
                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                      • 31429

                                                      #27
                                                      That beautiful women are horrendously expensive and their love is often fake.

                                                      If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor
                                                      from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION!

                                                      *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***
                                                      Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains

                                                      Comment

                                                      • toddler
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Jun 2002
                                                        • 1911

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Jamie
                                                        In 97 Content was king
                                                        Now Traffic is king
                                                        no
                                                        http://www.flickr.com/photos/zoddler/

                                                        Comment

                                                        • gornyhuy
                                                          Chafed.
                                                          • May 2002
                                                          • 18041

                                                          #29
                                                          I should have stopped reading everything in sight to the point of paralysis and just jumped in and started fanatically working on one thing, ANYTHING, until it started self funding other projects.

                                                          icq:159548293

                                                          Comment

                                                          • BRISK
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Feb 2003
                                                            • 12240

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Matt 26z
                                                            Here's some things that really hampered me at first I think...


                                                            1. Fifty percent of this industry can't be trusted to a certain degree. There's a lot of untalented individuals who have chosen to conduct shady business online instead of going back on welfare and working low-end manual labor jobs. They will do anything to avoid their old life. Know who you are dealing with, always.

                                                            2. Some big guys are actually clueless in terms of today's market. So be careful who you listen to no matter who they are. Use common sense based on what you do know today to discern if it's still valid.

                                                            3. There are business models in some circles that have evolved to essencially become a glass ceiling for newbies and struggling webmasters if you get caught up into them.

                                                            4. Many people at the top got there by running more sites than they talk about on the boards. Sometimes that's good, sometimes that's bad.

                                                            5. There's always someone on the boards acting like an expert of an area they actually know absolutely nothing about.

                                                            6. If a sponsor is screwing with their own customers in any way, then there's a good chance they are screwing with their affiliates too.

                                                            7. Run sites as if they were your non-profit hobby.

                                                            8. Resource site tutorial articles are always massively incomplete (there are no exceptions to this), and are many times written by industry rejects.

                                                            9. Never ever lose touch with the surfer side of yourself. You will either fail, or cut yourself short at the least.

                                                            10. The ratios claimed by people looking for an affiliate referral are almost always bogus.
                                                            Interesting observations
                                                            I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
                                                            I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

                                                            Comment

                                                            • serious
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • May 2003
                                                              • 2594

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by KRL
                                                              That beautiful women are horrendously expensive and their love is often fake.

                                                              did she take you for 50%?
                                                              new search

                                                              Comment

                                                              • KRL
                                                                Entrepreneur
                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                • 31429

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by serious


                                                                did she take you for 50%?
                                                                I'm too shrewd for that bullshit. I made my moves when I saw the first letter of the writing on the wall. Let's just say I had a lot of losses that year.

                                                                If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor
                                                                from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION!

                                                                *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***
                                                                Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains

                                                                Comment

                                                                • merchantman
                                                                  Registered User
                                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                                  • 8

                                                                  #33
                                                                  That Ibill would be gone
                                                                  Merchant Man
                                                                  ICQ 204400646

                                                                  Comment

                                                                  • - AFN -
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                    • 3101

                                                                    #34
                                                                    quit stirring up shit.. I bet you already in another thread 1,000 Cash money put your money where your mouth is little man.
                                                                    cat cash* | tr -d '\r' | tr -s '/n' > money

                                                                    Comment

                                                                    • Rorschach
                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                      • 5579

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by KRL


                                                                      I'm too shrewd for that bullshit. I made my moves when I saw the first letter of the writing on the wall. Let's just say I had a lot of losses that year.

                                                                      haha awesome

                                                                      Comment

                                                                      • BRISK
                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                        • Feb 2003
                                                                        • 12240

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Jamie
                                                                        In 97 Content was king
                                                                        Now Traffic is king
                                                                        hmmmmm....I dunno about that, I think the opposite. In '97, it was harder to get traffic than it is today, and in '97 you could slap up some shitty content and it would still make awesome sales

                                                                        Today, you NEED good content. You can't go building sites that uses content that is 2 years old 'cause you wont make shit-all money. Surfers have seen everything out there and they have a voracious appetite for the next new new girl. And if you have good content, you'll get the traffic, affiliates will send you traffic, TGPs will post your galleries, etc...

                                                                        So I think content is king, having traffic is always good too, but those who have amazing exclusive content shouldn't have a hard time getting the traffic they need.
                                                                        I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
                                                                        I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

                                                                        Comment

                                                                        • BRISK
                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                                          • 12240

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by - AFN -
                                                                          quit stirring up shit.. I bet you already in another thread 1,000 Cash money put your money where your mouth is little man.
                                                                          Who are you talking about?
                                                                          I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
                                                                          I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

                                                                          Comment

                                                                          • snowpimp
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Feb 2002
                                                                            • 1099

                                                                            #38
                                                                            1. that yahoo listings weren't always gonna be free
                                                                            2. that tgp's weren't always gonna be making 100 signups a day and I should have milked that for all it was worth
                                                                            HIGH QUALITY ADULT AND NON-ADULT DESIGN/MARKETING WORK SINCE 1997!!

                                                                            Yan - ICQ # 4790444 - Phone: 530-544-7058

                                                                            Comment

                                                                            • bhutocracy
                                                                              Not making A Comeback
                                                                              • Dec 2001
                                                                              • 10218

                                                                              #39
                                                                              that bang and bus were two words that would go well together.

                                                                              bah.. most people here wish they could apply what they know now 6 or 7 years ago... I can't believe I was FTP'ing porn from server to server for an IRC warez crew in '97 without twigging onto the possibilities. I didn't even start for a couple of years afterwards. Still I was making good money in mainstream at the time I guess.

                                                                              Comment

                                                                              • slapass
                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                • Nov 2002
                                                                                • 14625

                                                                                #40
                                                                                1) That paying for a site is quite a bit like paying for sex. It saves about 3 hours of effort.

                                                                                2) If they knew what they were doing they would be doing it, not telling you about it.

                                                                                3) Finds something that works and repeat, repeat and repeat.

                                                                                Comment

                                                                                • Pornwolf
                                                                                  Drunk and Unruly
                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                  • 22712

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Jamie
                                                                                  In 97 Content was king
                                                                                  Now Traffic is king
                                                                                  That one is coming back around. Ask Lensman, he sees the future.
                                                                                  I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

                                                                                  Webair, bitches.

                                                                                  Comment

                                                                                  • MeatAxe
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Nov 2003
                                                                                    • 267

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    <br>
                                                                                    <a href="http://www.camsense.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.camsense.com/images/banner_1.gif" border="0"></a>

                                                                                    <B>Gavin Jones</B>
                                                                                    WM Account Manager
                                                                                    ICQ - 342326819

                                                                                    Comment

                                                                                    • shepherd
                                                                                      Registered User
                                                                                      • Dec 2003
                                                                                      • 424

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      I wish I knew short ICQ UIN's would be so valuable in a few years.
                                                                                      Are they?? I have a short one.. what are they going for?

                                                                                      Comment

                                                                                      • latinasojourn
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Oct 2003
                                                                                        • 3191

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Matt 26z
                                                                                        Here's some things that really hampered me at first I think...


                                                                                        1. Fifty percent of this industry can't be trusted to a certain degree. There's a lot of untalented individuals who have chosen to conduct shady business online instead of going back on welfare and working low-end manual labor jobs. They will do anything to avoid their old life. Know who you are dealing with, always.

                                                                                        2. Some big guys are actually clueless in terms of today's market. So be careful who you listen to no matter who they are. Use common sense based on what you do know today to discern if it's still valid.

                                                                                        3. There are business models in some circles that have evolved to essencially become a glass ceiling for newbies and struggling webmasters if you get caught up into them.

                                                                                        4. Many people at the top got there by running more sites than they talk about on the boards. Sometimes that's good, sometimes that's bad.

                                                                                        5. There's always someone on the boards acting like an expert of an area they actually know absolutely nothing about.

                                                                                        6. If a sponsor is screwing with their own customers in any way, then there's a good chance they are screwing with their affiliates too.

                                                                                        7. Run sites as if they were your non-profit hobby.

                                                                                        8. Resource site tutorial articles are always massively incomplete (there are no exceptions to this), and are many times written by industry rejects.

                                                                                        9. Never ever lose touch with the surfer side of yourself. You will either fail, or cut yourself short at the least.

                                                                                        10. The ratios claimed by people looking for an affiliate referral are almost always bogus.

                                                                                        ten on the money

                                                                                        Comment

                                                                                        • latinasojourn
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                                                          • 3191

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          [QUOTE]Originally posted by slapass
                                                                                          [
                                                                                          2) If they knew what they were doing they would be doing it, not telling you about it.


                                                                                          bingo

                                                                                          Comment

                                                                                          Working...