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  • Libertine
    sex dwarf
    • May 2002
    • 17860

    #1

    Betterbeup sucks?

    http://betterbeup.com/

    Look at the front page... candidhosting is now at 210.205% downtime?!
    /(bb|[^b]{2})/
  • OzMan84
    Confirmed User
    • Nov 2003
    • 4740

    #2
    doesnt show any stats 4 me as im not gona sign up to something worthless
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    • Libertine
      sex dwarf
      • May 2002
      • 17860

      #3
      I'm not signed up either. It'll show you the stats, you just have to wait for a very, very long time before the stats thingy has loaded. (see that blank space on the front page? eventually that gets filled with a stats table)
      /(bb|[^b]{2})/

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      • Rorschach
        So Fucking Banned
        • Aug 2002
        • 5579

        #4
        I was wondering about that... I thought it was just broken and got sick of waiting.

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        • Vitasoy
          GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
          • Oct 2003
          • 58202

          #5
          is it me or is that site slow?


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          • OzMan84
            Confirmed User
            • Nov 2003
            • 4740

            #6
            Originally posted by Vitasoy
            is it me or is that site slow?
            sites slow

            Originally posted by punkworld
            I'm not signed up either. It'll show you the stats, you just have to wait for a very, very long time before the stats thingy has loaded. (see that blank space on the front page? eventually that gets filled with a stats table)
            oh ok well i left before that loaded ill check again now
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            • Odin88
              Confirmed User
              • Jul 2003
              • 3267

              #7
              Well, lucky me. I have the second worst host on there. And I will tell you now, betterbeup is dead accurate, and I am pissed fucking off!!!

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              • Libertine
                sex dwarf
                • May 2002
                • 17860

                #8
                Originally posted by Odin88
                Well, lucky me. I have the second worst host on there. And I will tell you now, betterbeup is dead accurate, and I am pissed fucking off!!!
                Dead accurate? Candidhosting really is down 217% of the time?
                /(bb|[^b]{2})/

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                • Trax
                  [----------------------]
                  • Aug 2001
                  • 14486

                  #9
                  works fine for me here
                  one of my host had a little down time for of ~2 min
                  got icq msg.. check one of the sites and it was correct
                  i dont see a problem expect for candid

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                  • Odin88
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 3267

                    #10
                    Dead accurate? Candidhosting really is down 217% of the time?
                    Second worst host. Obviously there is some problem with candid hosting and the script, so I guess you could say I am on the worst host.

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                    • OzMan84
                      Confirmed User
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 4740

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Odin88
                      Well, lucky me. I have the second worst host on there. And I will tell you now, betterbeup is dead accurate, and I am pissed fucking off!!!

                      yeh mate, im using the 2nd worst aswell and its fucked since im trying to build up good traffic, but with all this downtime people are gona lose interest in me and ill get traffic of like 30 a week
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                      • JamesK
                        hi
                        • Jun 2002
                        • 16731

                        #12
                        This is BETA version of BetterBeUP
                        That means: any term or any information on this page or in system may not be 100% accurate. Your goal as a beta tester is to report any failures.
                        Use this link to report problems on chickenboard
                        doh.
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                        • grumpy
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Jan 2002
                          • 9870

                          #13
                          Normally Choker is all over the board when it concerns him. This time its quiet...very quiet. Be ware for the storm.
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                          • Libertine
                            sex dwarf
                            • May 2002
                            • 17860

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Wildcard


                            doh.
                            There's a slight difference between not being 100% accurate and being more than 100% off from what is possible.
                            100% downtime could be attributed to a simple, single bug, but 217% means there is something more fundamentally wrong. A bug that really should've been crushed in the alpha versions.
                            /(bb|[^b]{2})/

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                            • SoundMan
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 3471

                              #15
                              better be asleep

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                              • Choker
                                Confirmed User
                                • Apr 2001
                                • 9024

                                #16
                                Chill the fuck out people. This is beta. We are making changes and fixes as we go. The stats reporting that shows the hosts downtime we are having problems with, but if you judge this program by that then you are not very bright. First priority is to make sure the system catches every sort of outage. So far I think we have that covered. We will fix the sponsor downtime cache problem this week.
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                                • basschick
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jan 2001
                                  • 2540

                                  #17
                                  go to http://www.betterbeup.com/ch_04/public/DowntimeIndex

                                  looks good. i'll be interested to see what things look like when monitoring has been in place longer for these hosts.
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                                  • Moose
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Feb 2001
                                    • 1548

                                    #18
                                    Its Crap.

                                    Says we have been down for 36 hours.
                                    If that happend you all would know about it.

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                                    • Choker
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Apr 2001
                                      • 9024

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by basschick
                                      go to http://www.betterbeup.com/ch_04/public/DowntimeIndex

                                      looks good. i'll be interested to see what things look like when monitoring has been in place longer for these hosts.
                                      thanks, most bugs are fixed, almost ready for official launch
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                                      • Choker
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Apr 2001
                                        • 9024

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Moose
                                        Its Crap.

                                        Says we have been down for 36 hours.
                                        If that happend you all would know about it.
                                        Could have been someone installed the plugin and fucked it up. In this case after 24 hours it would stop counting the downtime against you.
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                                        • Moose
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Feb 2001
                                          • 1548

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Choker

                                          Could have been someone installed the plugin and fucked it up. In this case after 24 hours it would stop counting the downtime against you.
                                          24 hours is a big difference than 36 hours

                                          Its still crap.

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                                          • Choker
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Apr 2001
                                            • 9024

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Moose


                                            24 hours is a big difference than 36 hours

                                            Its still crap.
                                            Well fuck you and the horse you rode in on if you don't like it. It's beta and it is free, so fuck off. I have heard MANY complaints that your network sucks ass. So maybe you are the one who is crap?
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                                            • Ray@TastyDollars
                                              • May 2002
                                              • 6797

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Choker


                                              Well fuck you and the horse you rode in on if you don't like it. It's beta and it is free, so fuck off. I have heard MANY complaints that your network sucks ass. So maybe you are the one who is crap?
                                              you need to smoke a joint and relax, your gonna pop a vein

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                                              • plyndrty
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jul 2003
                                                • 1477

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Choker


                                                Well fuck you and the horse you rode in on if you don't like it. It's beta and it is free, so fuck off. I have heard MANY complaints that your network sucks ass. So maybe you are the one who is crap?

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                                                • Superterrorizer
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Sep 2003
                                                  • 509

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Choker


                                                  Well fuck you and the horse you rode in on if you don't like it. It's beta and it is free, so fuck off. I have heard MANY complaints that your network sucks ass. So maybe you are the one who is crap?

                                                  I like your attitude. No wonder everyone thinks you're a fucking idiot. Maybe you and Amp should go have a drink together.

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                                                  • Choker
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Apr 2001
                                                    • 9024

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Ray

                                                    you need to smoke a joint and relax, your gonna pop a vein
                                                    nah it's cool, I just don't appreciate someone calling a BETA program crap. If this host showed 0 downtime he would be all about how great it is. Fact is that downtime is accurate, and is from several of his servers, not just one. I expected a lot of hosts will flame me for this program, but the least they could have done is waited until beta is over. I have yet to see a single complaint from one person who is using this to monitor thier domains. In fact I have seen a couple guys that showed thier host thier downtime and they got credited cash for it. This program gave them the proof to show their host that thier site was indeed down.
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                                                    • Choker
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                      • 9024

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Superterrorizer



                                                      I like your attitude. No wonder everyone thinks you're a fucking idiot. Maybe you and Amp should go have a drink together.
                                                      Post your latest beta program here and let me call it crap a couple times and see how you react. Yeah I thought so
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                                                      • Superterrorizer
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Sep 2003
                                                        • 509

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Choker


                                                        Post your latest beta program here and let me call it crap a couple times and see how you react. Yeah I thought so
                                                        Well, I would react in a professional manner, I wouldn't have a fucking hissy fit and spaz out which appears to be the norm for you.

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                                                        • Choker
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Apr 2001
                                                          • 9024

                                                          #29
                                                          Yes I am edgy about this program. I have even had hosts threaten to sue me over this. Fuck em all, bring it on. The address to serve me is in my Whois.
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                                                          • Mr.Fiction
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Feb 2002
                                                            • 9484

                                                            #30
                                                            What about Sin Host, Flying Croc, Blue Gravity, and the rest of them?
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                                                            • Choker
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Apr 2001
                                                              • 9024

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Superterrorizer


                                                              Well, I would react in a professional manner, I wouldn't have a fucking hissy fit and spaz out which appears to be the norm for you.
                                                              Read my posts man, I do not have a problem with ANY user complaining about this program. It's the hosts whos sites show downtime that are constantly badgering me about this. I am getting nasty icqs and emails and I am tired of it. If any host wishes to sue me over this program, go for it.

                                                              This script was made for me to use for myself. Since I need a dedicated server for it, the server sits idle with just monitoring my domains. So I let others use it for free. I make nothing on this yet I get a lot of shit from hosts. And there is bad blood between me and whatshisface anyway.
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                                                              • Choker
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Apr 2001
                                                                • 9024

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
                                                                What about Sin Host, Flying Croc, Blue Gravity, and the rest of them?
                                                                If someone has their urls and support addys I will add them to the system
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                                                                • Moose
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                                  • 1548

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I would like to know where this extra 17 days came from that you have been monitoring us? 2 days ago it said 12 days monitoring time.

                                                                  Is it from the same place the 36 hours of downtime came from?

                                                                  All I am saying is this thing is not accurate and should not be let loose on the public till it is.

                                                                  I am all for it and will support it...but if it is inaccurate..yes it is crap.

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                                                                  • Choker
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Apr 2001
                                                                    • 9024

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Moose
                                                                    I would like to know where this extra 17 days came from that you have been monitoring us? 2 days ago it said 12 days monitoring time.

                                                                    Is it from the same place the 36 hours of downtime came from?

                                                                    All I am saying is this thing is not accurate and should not be let loose on the public till it is.

                                                                    I am all for it and will support it...but if it is inaccurate..yes it is crap.
                                                                    If a hosts has one server being monitored, then after one hour tht would be 60 minutes uptime. If a host has 10 servers being monitored, then after one hour that would be 600 minutes uptime. We are going to change the format to show total minutes only. If you do the math this is the only way to show true % and time downtime of the servers being monitored. As far as not having it public until it is thru with beta, well how else can we know if there are problems are not?
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                                                                    • Moose
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Feb 2001
                                                                      • 1548

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Figured it out after a few hours of investigating this thing as I know for a fact we have not been down and would be gone if we were down for over 30 hours.

                                                                      We disabled an account for non-payment, this particular account had more then one choker script running. All these added up quick as this customer did not pay his bill. He finally made arrangements with us a day later and we reinstated the account.

                                                                      Choker you need to take this into account as what is being posted on your website in front of hundreds of webmasters right now is a false representation of hosting companys. There are other bugs I see in this thing, but this one is pretty bad. We do the right thing by cutting off a deadbeat and at the same time it looks like we are the crappiest host on the net.

                                                                      I am on day 5 of no smokes and getting very cranky.


                                                                      If you would like to discuss this you can email me [email protected]
                                                                      Last edited by Moose; 01-14-2004, 08:35 PM.

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                                                                      • Moose
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Feb 2001
                                                                        • 1548

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Bump.
                                                                        I would like to see what choker has to say about this.

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                                                                        • Sly_RJ
                                                                          Live Hard - Die Hard
                                                                          • Feb 2002
                                                                          • 17042

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Choker I had 3 clients on my ass today about your lovely public FAULTY beta script complaining about non-existent downtime. Am I pissed? Heh... you have no idea.

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                                                                          • Choker
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Apr 2001
                                                                            • 9024

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Moose
                                                                            Bump.
                                                                            I would like to see what choker has to say about this.
                                                                            http://www.betterbeup.com/

                                                                            Warning
                                                                            The above table represents only the servers that have installed our plugin and that this service is actively monitoring. This service DOES NOT take into account server downtime due to DNS problems, sites shut down by the host, acts of God, etc. If the monitored site does not respond for ANY reason BBU will consider this site down and count this downtime up to 24 hours against the hosts total downtime. We do not guarantee the accuracy of this page, nor do we represent any of the hosting companies being monitored.
                                                                            About the time being monitored..If a host has 1 server being monitored, after 1 hour the total time monitored would be 1 hour. If a host has 10 servers being monitored, after one hour the total time monitored would be 10 hours. ETC
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                                                                            • Choker
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Apr 2001
                                                                              • 9024

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Sly_RJ
                                                                              Choker I had 3 clients on my ass today about your lovely public FAULTY beta script complaining about non-existent downtime. Am I pissed? Heh... you have no idea.

                                                                              http://www.betterbeup.com/

                                                                              Until just now there was a big ole red box that said BETA. Did you miss that?
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                                                                              • Choker
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Apr 2001
                                                                                • 9024

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Sly_RJ
                                                                                Choker I had 3 clients on my ass today about your lovely public FAULTY beta script complaining about non-existent downtime. Am I pissed? Heh... you have no idea.

                                                                                That's odd, I see no reports from the users of this service about "non-existant downtime"

                                                                                http://chickenboard.com/viewforum.ph...da5bb76d464e3a
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                                                                                • Sly_RJ
                                                                                  Live Hard - Die Hard
                                                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                                                  • 17042

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  I didn't miss anything. Did my clients and potential customers? Possibly. Either way, they were on my ass about downtime that your site is reporting. Not sure if they even use your service, but obviously browsing your site.

                                                                                  You're a big boy Choker, I know you're not naive enough to think that there's only a problem if someone reports it.
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                                                                                  • plyndrty
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                                                    • 1477

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    BETA BETA BETA, Stay strong Choker. I didn't see any guns held to heads.
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                                                                                    • Moose
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Feb 2001
                                                                                      • 1548

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Funny thing is...
                                                                                      this customer we made arrangements with has not fulfilled his end of the bargain and is being shutoff again.
                                                                                      Now he is running 2 sites with this so downtime minutes will add up quick. We will rule betterbeup with the most minutes.

                                                                                      WE will be NUMBER ONE minute producer!!!!!!!!!!!!


                                                                                      Im so excited.

                                                                                      No one can beat us!

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                                                                                      • Wizzo
                                                                                        2011 GFY Hall of Fame!
                                                                                        • Nov 2000
                                                                                        • 15224

                                                                                        #44
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                                                                                        • Choker
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Apr 2001
                                                                                          • 9024

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Moose
                                                                                          Funny thing is...
                                                                                          this customer we made arrangements with has not fulfilled his end of the bargain and is being shutoff again.
                                                                                          Now he is running 2 sites with this so downtime minutes will add up quick. We will rule betterbeup with the most minutes.

                                                                                          WE will be NUMBER ONE minute producer!!!!!!!!!!!!


                                                                                          Im so excited.

                                                                                          No one can beat us!
                                                                                          After 24 hours it will stop counting. What you are whinning about will affect every host so in the end the numbers will average out. You only have 3 server being monitored right now.
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                                                                                          • Choker
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Apr 2001
                                                                                            • 9024

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Wizzo
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                                                                                            • crockett
                                                                                              in a van by the river
                                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                                              • 76818

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Choker


                                                                                              nah it's cool, I just don't appreciate someone calling a BETA program crap. If this host showed 0 downtime he would be all about how great it is. Fact is that downtime is accurate, and is from several of his servers, not just one. I expected a lot of hosts will flame me for this program, but the least they could have done is waited until beta is over. I have yet to see a single complaint from one person who is using this to monitor thier domains. In fact I have seen a couple guys that showed thier host thier downtime and they got credited cash for it. This program gave them the proof to show their host that thier site was indeed down.
                                                                                              Why should they wait to flame you, when you bring out a program that can cost them money, out in beta form... That would be like me starting a new webmaster program and my stats not tracking the affiliates sign-ups.. opps it's just a beta don't wory it will be fixed soon....

                                                                                              If I install your program on my server and delete my index.html file like a total noob, then your stats show my host as being down..not my server but my host... which of course would not be true and accurate but it still reflects bad on my host, because it shows them as being down...

                                                                                              untill you fix that little issue of the user being able to fuck it up..it will never be accurate. Not trying to hack on you, but I belive you should have researched this project a bit more before bring it public
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                                                                                              • Choker
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                                                                                                • Apr 2001
                                                                                                • 9024

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by crockett


                                                                                                Why should they wait to flame you, when you bring out a program that can cost them money, out in beta form... That would be like me starting a new webmaster program and my stats not tracking the affiliates sign-ups.. opps it's just a beta don't wory it will be fixed soon....

                                                                                                If I install your program on my server and delete my index.html file like a total noob, then your stats show my host as being down..not my server but my host... which of course would not be true and accurate but it still reflects bad on my host, because it shows them as being down...

                                                                                                untill you fix that little issue of the user being able to fuck it up..it will never be accurate. Not trying to hack on you, but I belive you should have researched this project a bit more before bring it public
                                                                                                A newb can delete every page on his site and bbu will still show it as up. What nobody fails to mention is the hosts that are being monitored and are getting NEW clients everyday because of this service. there are only 114 servers monitered right now. And beta is jsut completed. When there are 100 or more EVERY host will show downtime and the numbers will average out
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                                                                                                • Steve
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                                                                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                                                                  • 6894

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Too many variables. You can have deadbeat accounts making a solid host look bad, and you can have crappy virtual accounts on overloaded boxes being compared to dependable dedicated servers.

                                                                                                  Also, you might use a host that has the server up, but configured so shitty that you cannot even run your scripts properly. Uptime stats alone is not enough.

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                                                                                                  • Ic3m4nZ
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                                                                                                    • Aug 2003
                                                                                                    • 6285

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