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  • xxxdesign-net
    My hips don't lie
    • Nov 2002
    • 10129
    #1

    So what will US sponsors do regarding 2257 and non-hosted galleries...?

    So I need to plan which galleries I'll use for the month ahead.. and first would like to know what is the date the US will enforce the new 2257 law and once that date reached.. how sponsors will handle non-hosted galleries...

    Thanks...
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    • freeadultcontent
      Confirmed User
      • Oct 2002
      • 9976
      #2
      Assuming no changes or injunctions are made, the enforcement date begins 30 days after the date of change.

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        • xxxdesign-net
          My hips don't lie
          • Nov 2002
          • 10129
          #3
          Originally posted by freeadultcontent
          Assuming no changes or injunctions are made, the enforcement date begins 30 days after the date of change.
          pussymoney.. are you a sponsor? how will you handle non-hosted galleries..? old & new ones... because obviously.. there's thousands and thousands of old non-hosted gals promoting any sponsors just floating around... Are sponsors liable for that?
          Last edited by xxxdesign-net; 08-17-2004, 02:52 PM.

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            • xxxdesign-net
              My hips don't lie
              • Nov 2002
              • 10129
              #4
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                • NoCarrier
                  We need more free porn
                  • Mar 2002
                  • 16356
                  #5
                  Originally posted by freeadultcontent
                  Assuming no changes or injunctions are made, the enforcement date begins 30 days after the date of change.
                  Do you think that's what's going to happen? Does it usually take longer?

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                    • freeadultcontent
                      Confirmed User
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 9976
                      #6
                      Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
                      pussymoney.. are you a sponsor? how will you handle non-hosted galleries..? old & new ones... because obviously.. there's thousands and thousands of old non-hosted gals promoting any sponsors just floating around... Are sponsors liable for that?
                      Yes we are a sponsor. Yet please do not take a single fucking word I say as legal advice or what our final decesion will be.
                      Option 1 is of course to allow the majority of webmasters to bury their heads like always. Play the odds game.
                      Option 2 is use our hosting for your non hosted galleries, confusing yes, but basicly think free hosting with no banners, etc.
                      Option 3 is making sure people know not to update previously published sites. By all means they should be exempt, unless everyone gets super anal then in theory a page is published every time someone views it.
                      Option 4 I can not disclose just yet due to competitive reasons, it will be a fix for our affiliates at least according to our attorney's. Despite that we make no warrenty on that since with adult comes risk and you choose to be in this biz.

                      Liabilty, seriously doubtfull. Anyone could put up a site and take down a sponsor then.

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                        • freeadultcontent
                          Confirmed User
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 9976
                          #7
                          Originally posted by NoCarrier
                          Do you think that's what's going to happen? Does it usually take longer?
                          I personally think we see it as it will be and they do not even read our complaints. As for an injunction, this business is never ever for the greater good of itself. So I do not forsee any adult attorney filing one unless someone steps up and pays them to do so. They make money defending you so why would they.

                          It is written how it will be timed. So 30 days is 30 days.

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                            • xxxdesign-net
                              My hips don't lie
                              • Nov 2002
                              • 10129
                              #8
                              Originally posted by freeadultcontent
                              Yes we are a sponsor. Yet please do not take a single fucking word I say as legal advice or what our final decesion will be.
                              Option 1 is of course to allow the majority of webmasters to bury their heads like always. Play the odds game.
                              Option 2 is use our hosting for your non hosted galleries, confusing yes, but basicly think free hosting with no banners, etc.
                              Option 3 is making sure people know not to update previously published sites. By all means they should be exempt, unless everyone gets super anal then in theory a page is published every time someone views it.
                              Option 4 I can not disclose just yet due to competitive reasons, it will be a fix for our affiliates at least according to our attorney's. Despite that we make no warrenty on that since with adult comes risk and you choose to be in this biz.

                              Liabilty, seriously doubtfull. Anyone could put up a site and take down a sponsor then.
                              Thanks...

                              But it would be nice to have all the sponsors make a statement on their future policy regarding 2257.. many of us submit galleries a month in advance for paid spots.. even more for TheHun listings... I doubt that switching domains (to one hosted by the sponsor) is a solution...

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                                • The Other Steve
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Dec 2001
                                  • 2106
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by freeadultcontent
                                  Yes we are a sponsor. Yet please do not take a single fucking word I say as legal advice or what our final decesion will be.
                                  Option 1 is of course to allow the majority of webmasters to bury their heads like always. Play the odds game.
                                  Option 2 is use our hosting for your non hosted galleries, confusing yes, but basicly think free hosting with no banners, etc.
                                  Option 3 is making sure people know not to update previously published sites. By all means they should be exempt, unless everyone gets super anal then in theory a page is published every time someone views it.
                                  Option 4 I can not disclose just yet due to competitive reasons, it will be a fix for our affiliates at least according to our attorney's. Despite that we make no warrenty on that since with adult comes risk and you choose to be in this biz.

                                  Liabilty, seriously doubtfull. Anyone could put up a site and take down a sponsor then.
                                  At last a sponsor who admits that they do have something in the works that may help their affiliates.

                                  You're about the first sponsor who has admitted it and I'm sure a lot of affiliates were thinking that the sponsors were hiding their heads in the sand too
                                  Left intentionally blank ... just like my brain

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                                    • xxxdesign-net
                                      My hips don't lie
                                      • Nov 2002
                                      • 10129
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by The Other Steve
                                      At last a sponsor who admits that they do have something in the works that may help their affiliates.

                                      You're about the first sponsor who has admitted it and I'm sure a lot of affiliates were thinking that the sponsors were hiding their heads in the sand too

                                      well.. if sponsors are gonna do like some do regarding spam.. look the other way regarding affiliates using their content on non-hosted galleries.. that will be fine with me.. but you'll also have sponsors that will just terminate your account.. I want to know who are those...

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                                        • freeadultcontent
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Oct 2002
                                          • 9976
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
                                          Thanks...

                                          But it would be nice to have all the sponsors make a statement on their future policy regarding 2257.. many of us submit galleries a month in advance for paid spots.. even more for TheHun listings... I doubt that switching domains (to one hosted by the sponsor) is a solution...
                                          I am doing my best. If this is the final version, then you will have 30 days from that date. I need to make sure its final version before I jump the gun and have our affiliates have to do a bunch of rework. Sorry that is the best I can do.

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                                            • freeadultcontent
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Oct 2002
                                              • 9976
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by The Other Steve

                                              . . . I'm sure a lot of affiliates were thinking that the sponsors were hiding their heads in the sand too
                                              Sadly many are, then again many never were compliant with the current regs to begin with.

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                                                • freeadultcontent
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                  • 9976
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
                                                  well.. if sponsors are gonna do like some do regarding spam.. look the other way regarding affiliates using their content on non-hosted galleries.. that will be fine with me.. but you'll also have sponsors that will just terminate your account.. I want to know who are those...
                                                  There will always be those that term your account. Some do it for money, others just for public relations and pay you on the side and tell you to resign up.
                                                  My personal stance is follow the laws if I like them or not.

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                                                    • Jace
                                                      FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                      • Jan 2004
                                                      • 35562
                                                      #14
                                                      if your talking about free content that you got from the sponsor, and you making your own galleries....then sorry to say, that is YOUR responsibility to track down 2257 for each gallery

                                                      the sponsor doesn't, and probably won't, have to help you out in any way...in fact, i see very few sponsors giving out the 2257 docs for any girls...

                                                      basically, if you have the content, it is YOUR job to comply, not the sponsors....so if the feds coming knocking on your door "the sponsor has all the docs" is NOT going to help you

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                                                        • Herb Kornfield
                                                          Is on the 1
                                                          • Sep 2002
                                                          • 4996
                                                          #15
                                                          any sponsor owners that would like to get 2257 record keeping software to offer to their webmasters let me know for bulk rates

                                                          [email protected]

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                                                            • xxxdesign-net
                                                              My hips don't lie
                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                              • 10129
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by JaceXXX
                                                              if your talking about free content that you got from the sponsor, and you making your own galleries....then sorry to say, that is YOUR responsibility to track down 2257 for each gallery

                                                              the sponsor doesn't, and probably won't, have to help you out in any way...in fact, i see very few sponsors giving out the 2257 docs for any girls...

                                                              basically, if you have the content, it is YOUR job to comply, not the sponsors....so if the feds coming knocking on your door "the sponsor has all the docs" is NOT going to help you
                                                              im talking for non US webmasters... I personally do not have to comply with the US law... I'll have to comply with the sponsors' policy however...

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                                                                • freeadultcontent
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                  • 9976
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by Herb Kornfield
                                                                  any sponsor owners that would like to get 2257 record keeping software to offer to their webmasters let me know for bulk rates

                                                                  [email protected]
                                                                  It is nowhere near what is needed just yet. I did look it over before demo and screenshots and after. Still does nothing for me except worry about a server crash or DB error.
                                                                  I do wish it was more beefed up.

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