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jade_dragon · 08-17-2004, 04:07 PM

Bruce would never use nunchuku in a real fight, he actually hated the weapon, said it was flashy and wasted to much time and energy, was not direct enough. But he knew the flash would be loved be the crowd and so it made it into the movie.

You should tell some wushu artists that they are not the real deal, i think they would change your mind quickly. Much like Capoeria the art is full of trickery, speed and deception not brute force (angolan capoeria not regional which is capoeria and shotokan mixed) Put a Wu shu steel Broad sword, a tai chi sword or a whip chain in the hands of one of these guys and you will be mesmorized with how many angles they can effectively hit you from all at one time.

Anatomy and kinetics have not changed that much in the last 30 years, no advantage there

Bruce grew up as an unskilled street fighter then under Yip Man learned Wing Chun for his protection since he was a bit of a hot head in his early age and also small. Jet on the other hand as posted before did it first as something to do and then just fell in love with the martial way. He has less "real world" fight experience but does have some. He like Jackie are advocates of fighting only when you really really have to including taking hits to remove yourself from the situation, something that Bruce would have thought a travisty.

speed and power must me mixed to have the best possible chance of delivering a blow. Jun Fan Jeet Kun Do was split into a few key elements two of the most important ones had to do with speed differances in fighters. Jun Fan was about about both intercepting a strike and lauching a counter almost spontaneously thus giving no time for recovery once an opponent had dedicated themselves to a strike. This covered the defense but the art was not about sitting and letting someone strike at you like hapkido, large parts were about opening up holes and that depending on knowing if you were faster or slower than the other person so even if Jet was faster the art was set up for such scenarios.

You are correct bruce devoted much of his life to the art of fighting, doing little more than working both his mind and body to become perfect, trying to make a living and having his family with linda. He is what a true master should be modeled after. No insult to instructors, sefu, maestro or sensai out there but when I see 8 year olds walking around with black belts and 45 year old guys with 9-5's calling themselves masters, grand masters and Dans I just have to think how much lower the standards are here in the U.S.

This fight would not have been as spectacular looking as you think. Fights between real martial artists usually do not last long and there is not much flashyness to them, there are minimal throwing of strikes because those strikes have to count, this is not point sparring, you are trying to hurt the other person. Bruce had whittled down his striked to only 4-5 at the end, with the finger pokes being one of his favorites. This fight would last no longer than 3 minuits i would bet and probably would not go that long.

The one inch punch is not a strike that does much damage, it is mostly to stun an opponent and upset his timing and balance, it actually has very little to do with power also. The rib cage is bone and cartilidge set up in a, well, cage. By compressing the front end of the cage quickly and solidifying your stance the rib cage will act as a spring and the body will be catapulted off of your fist, it stuns you and stings a little but it is in no way a knock out strike, you could pummel a person by running in after the strike is delevired as the person tries to recover balance. His lunging side kick uses the same principals but had enough force to crack ribs and cause internal damage or joint seperation, this would knock you more than a few feet, the punch would push you about 2, the rest of the distance is from trying to get your feet back under yourself and/or rolling

There are a lot of myths out there and talk, if you really wanna know a lot about the man and the legends try to get media that is JKDN (Jeet Jun Do Nucleas) approved. This is an organization that tracks all registered Sefu who have direct liniage to the LA, Oakland and San Francisco Schools as well as media that has been checked for accuracy by his wife or Danny Inasato one of his closest friends.

08-17-2004, 04:07 PM
jade_dragon Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: NEW ORLEANS/Baton Rouge BABY! Posts: 1,737	Bruce would never use nunchuku in a real fight, he actually hated the weapon, said it was flashy and wasted to much time and energy, was not direct enough. But he knew the flash would be loved be the crowd and so it made it into the movie. You should tell some wushu artists that they are not the real deal, i think they would change your mind quickly. Much like Capoeria the art is full of trickery, speed and deception not brute force (angolan capoeria not regional which is capoeria and shotokan mixed) Put a Wu shu steel Broad sword, a tai chi sword or a whip chain in the hands of one of these guys and you will be mesmorized with how many angles they can effectively hit you from all at one time. Anatomy and kinetics have not changed that much in the last 30 years, no advantage there Bruce grew up as an unskilled street fighter then under Yip Man learned Wing Chun for his protection since he was a bit of a hot head in his early age and also small. Jet on the other hand as posted before did it first as something to do and then just fell in love with the martial way. He has less "real world" fight experience but does have some. He like Jackie are advocates of fighting only when you really really have to including taking hits to remove yourself from the situation, something that Bruce would have thought a travisty. speed and power must me mixed to have the best possible chance of delivering a blow. Jun Fan Jeet Kun Do was split into a few key elements two of the most important ones had to do with speed differances in fighters. Jun Fan was about about both intercepting a strike and lauching a counter almost spontaneously thus giving no time for recovery once an opponent had dedicated themselves to a strike. This covered the defense but the art was not about sitting and letting someone strike at you like hapkido, large parts were about opening up holes and that depending on knowing if you were faster or slower than the other person so even if Jet was faster the art was set up for such scenarios. You are correct bruce devoted much of his life to the art of fighting, doing little more than working both his mind and body to become perfect, trying to make a living and having his family with linda. He is what a true master should be modeled after. No insult to instructors, sefu, maestro or sensai out there but when I see 8 year olds walking around with black belts and 45 year old guys with 9-5's calling themselves masters, grand masters and Dans I just have to think how much lower the standards are here in the U.S. This fight would not have been as spectacular looking as you think. Fights between real martial artists usually do not last long and there is not much flashyness to them, there are minimal throwing of strikes because those strikes have to count, this is not point sparring, you are trying to hurt the other person. Bruce had whittled down his striked to only 4-5 at the end, with the finger pokes being one of his favorites. This fight would last no longer than 3 minuits i would bet and probably would not go that long. The one inch punch is not a strike that does much damage, it is mostly to stun an opponent and upset his timing and balance, it actually has very little to do with power also. The rib cage is bone and cartilidge set up in a, well, cage. By compressing the front end of the cage quickly and solidifying your stance the rib cage will act as a spring and the body will be catapulted off of your fist, it stuns you and stings a little but it is in no way a knock out strike, you could pummel a person by running in after the strike is delevired as the person tries to recover balance. His lunging side kick uses the same principals but had enough force to crack ribs and cause internal damage or joint seperation, this would knock you more than a few feet, the punch would push you about 2, the rest of the distance is from trying to get your feet back under yourself and/or rolling There are a lot of myths out there and talk, if you really wanna know a lot about the man and the legends try to get media that is JKDN (Jeet Jun Do Nucleas) approved. This is an organization that tracks all registered Sefu who have direct liniage to the LA, Oakland and San Francisco Schools as well as media that has been checked for accuracy by his wife or Danny Inasato one of his closest friends. __________________ even ADULTS need TOYS icq: 3 6 3 2 6 6 6 7 \| aim: conglomorateman open for business, affiliates and friendships Last edited by jade_dragon; 08-17-2004 at 04:09 PM..