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  • Ironhorse
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    • Nov 2002
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    #51
    50 wondering tourists
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    • BRISK
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      • Feb 2003
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      #52
      Originally posted by Ironhorse


      I don't know man, I bet I can jump in my car tomorrow in Chicago and I can cruise to any state without any hassle whasoever as long as I abide local laws, basically speed limiits and basic human order, try this in any other country..good luck.
      Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Europe
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      I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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      • Ironhorse
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        • Nov 2002
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        #53
        Originally posted by BRISK


        Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Europe
        Actually I included these countries in my calculations (maybe some minor hassles getting all the papers) even though I didn't mention them..
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        • BRISK
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          • Feb 2003
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          #54
          Originally posted by Ironhorse


          Actually I included these countries in my calculations (maybe some minor hassles getting all the papers) even though I didn't mention them..
          Calculations? WTF are you talking about?
          I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
          I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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          • Ironhorse
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            • Nov 2002
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            #55
            Originally posted by BRISK


            Calculations? WTF are you talking about?
            Dude, honestly I'm pretty fucked up right now, so I'm not exactly sure what I'm talking about
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            • Ironhorse
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              • Nov 2002
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              #56
              Originally posted by Tipsy


              Eh? Try travelling outside of the US a few times. What a stupid and very funny post.
              I'm not sure why you think this is funny or stupid, US is huge and many folks spend their entire lives never having to leave it's borders..
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              • BRISK
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                • Feb 2003
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                #57
                Originally posted by Ironhorse


                Dude, honestly I'm pretty fucked up right now, so I'm not exactly sure what I'm talking about
                You wrote:

                I don't know man, I bet I can jump in my car tomorrow in Chicago and I can cruise to any state without any hassle whasoever as long as I abide local laws, basically speed limiits and basic human order, try this in any other country..good luck.
                I replied with Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and Europe being places where you can "cruise to any state without any hassle"
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                • Ironhorse
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                  • Nov 2002
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by BRISK


                  I replied with Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and Europe being places where you can "cruise to any state without any hassle"
                  Ok, well I didn't mean to exclude these countries from the 'free to travel status' , I was just trying to point out how easy it is to travel in the continental US, I wouldn't know about the other countries since I haven't visited YES, but soon enough I will, I wanna see EVERYTHING..
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                  • BRISK
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                    • Feb 2003
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Ironhorse


                    Ok, well I didn't mean to exclude these countries from the 'free to travel status' , I was just trying to point out how easy it is to travel in the continental US, I wouldn't know about the other countries since I haven't visited YES, but soon enough I will, I wanna see EVERYTHING..
                    You didn't mean to exclude these countries when you said "try this in any other country..good luck."?

                    Sounds to me like you did.
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                    • Ironhorse
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                      • Nov 2002
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                      #60
                      Man, you're goiing to pigeon hole me in..ok ..I meant MOST countries it's tough. My own history, I was born in Romania, and it took 5 years to get a legimtimate visa to leave and enter US, fact is it's tough in most countries outside of typical Anglo-saxon countries or other european coutnries to go back and forth, we can get very anal about this or not..your choice..
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                      • BRISK
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                        • Feb 2003
                        • 12240

                        #61
                        Originally posted by Ironhorse
                        we can get very anal
                        No thanks, I don't swing that way.
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                        • Nikoleta
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                          • Oct 2003
                          • 362

                          #62
                          Originally posted by Nydahl
                          I really don't feel any need to provide fucking US embassy with my fingerprints.
                          its silly...like i'm criminal
                          WTF?!

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                          • slapass
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                            • Nov 2002
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                            #63
                            Florida lost a lot of foreign tourist business in 2002 and 2003. It picked up again this year. Just going by my folks who go there every year and have noticed that the price they pay moves around based on the europeans coming ang goings.

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                            • wyldblyss
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                              • Nov 2003
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                              #64
                              If you want to travel, you do what it takes. When hubby and I were planning a trip to Mexico I went to hell and back to get passports for my 2 kids from my first marriage. Mind you, I had full custody of the kids, but Mexico is known for giving a hard time if the parents name doesn't match that of the kids. Although a passport is not necessary normally, they recommended it.

                              So, at least 25 forms later, about 100 hours of my time, $5,000 in legal fees (to get the ex to sign documentation stating he was aware that I have passports for the children and knew I was taking them to Mexico...even though in my country I don't need his permission to do anything)....we flew to Mexico. I had a huge envelope stuffed with court documents, ex's legal statements, long-form birth certificates, normal birth certificates etc. We walk up to the immigration officer ready for a battle and knowing full well there was nothing he could ask for that I didn't have.

                              He grabbed the 4 passports, stamped them, didn't look at the names and in fact didn't utter a word. I was sort of disapointed LOL.

                              The thing is, we wanted to go to Mexico, so we did what it took and those 2 weeks in Mexico were completely worth all the time I took to prepare for it.

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                              • Tipsy
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                                • Jul 2001
                                • 6989

                                #65
                                Originally posted by wyldblyss
                                If you want to travel, you do what it takes. When hubby and I were planning a trip to Mexico I went to hell and back to get passports for my 2 kids from my first marriage. Mind you, I had full custody of the kids, but Mexico is known for giving a hard time if the parents name doesn't match that of the kids. Although a passport is not necessary normally, they recommended it.

                                So, at least 25 forms later, about 100 hours of my time, $5,000 in legal fees (to get the ex to sign documentation stating he was aware that I have passports for the children and knew I was taking them to Mexico...even though in my country I don't need his permission to do anything)....we flew to Mexico. I had a huge envelope stuffed with court documents, ex's legal statements, long-form birth certificates, normal birth certificates etc. We walk up to the immigration officer ready for a battle and knowing full well there was nothing he could ask for that I didn't have.

                                He grabbed the 4 passports, stamped them, didn't look at the names and in fact didn't utter a word. I was sort of disapointed LOL.

                                The thing is, we wanted to go to Mexico, so we did what it took and those 2 weeks in Mexico were completely worth all the time I took to prepare for it.
                                And you think your average person will go through all that just to go to Disneyworld when most of Europe is calling with some good theme parks of it's own? Too may people on drugs in this thread by far.
                                Ignorance is never bliss.

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                                • Tipsy
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                                  • Jul 2001
                                  • 6989

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by Ironhorse


                                  I'm not sure why you think this is funny or stupid, US is huge and many folks spend their entire lives never having to leave it's borders..
                                  Eh? You make less sense with every post. Your original comment was both funny and stupid. Posting on a board and publically showing that degree of stupidity and ignorance will never fail to be funny in a sort of sad and tragic way.
                                  Ignorance is never bliss.

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                                  • jigg
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                                    • Feb 2002
                                    • 2527

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by Cash
                                    US tourist industry is not dependent on foreign tourists, the people residing in the US make the bulk of it ...
                                    really?
                                    is that why Florida was desperate for tourists after 9/11 and layed off a lot of people? They had to run commercials all the time to entice the locals to come stay at a hotel and slash the prices waaay down

                                    besides, the spanish resorts and places like palma de malorka are great places to go to a vacation. and so are the turkish, bulgarian and greek resorts
                                    Last edited by jigg; 01-11-2004, 08:29 AM.
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                                    • 12clicks
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                                      • Jan 2001
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                                      #68
                                      we're being attacked by foriegners.

                                      we're not likely to care how difficult its become for them to travel here.

                                      As the largest consumer country in the world, we'll handle the economic fall out.

                                      You won't find El-Al passengers being fingerprinted.
                                      Once the euro pansies realize we won't allow them to be a revolving door for terrorists, things will return to normal.
                                      I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                      • jigg
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                                        • Feb 2002
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                                        #69
                                        what makes you think a terorist would go thru with a visa?
                                        some of those guys on 9/11 had no record, so even if htey opted to enter with visas nobody would have cought them.

                                        and are you aware of just how much the mexico border is leaking?
                                        you probably didn't watch the expose on FOX where they found some questionable people have been smugled in and nobody knows where they went to.
                                        For $5000 you can enter the US thru mexico, or even free if you know how.

                                        so what would a potential terorist do - go thru customs or go thru mexico?

                                        Once the euro pansies realize we won't allow them to be a revolving door for terrorists, things will return to normal.
                                        yeah, less people will come here,
                                        it's already hapening.
                                        Like UK's foreign exchange student enrollment is up by something like 30%, so is Canada's, & Germany. That hardly doesn't matter since it gives US colleges and universities $12 billion a year, and keeps most of their programs alive.
                                        Florida alone can't sustain itself if they don't have foreign tourism to help pour money into the expensive hotels

                                        Don't kid yourself people will come here just because it is america, i'm sure some would but a big chunk will go somewhere else and so would their money
                                        Last edited by jigg; 01-11-2004, 08:51 AM.
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                                        • 12clicks
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                                          • Jan 2001
                                          • 19814

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by jigg
                                          what makes you think a terorist would go thru with a visa?
                                          some of those guys on 9/11 had no record, so even if htey opted to enter with visas nobody would have cought them.

                                          Son, don't come to me with lies. I bury liars daily.

                                          http://www.fairus.org/ImmigrationIss...m?ID=1205&c=14

                                          """According to authorities, all of the hijackers who committed the September 11, 2001 terrorist attack on the World Trade center towers and the Pentagon were foreigners. All of them entered the country legally on a temporary visa, mostly B-1 business visas or B-2 tourist visas. One is known to have received an M-1 vocational training visa and two received F-1 student visas."""
                                          I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                          • jigg
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                                            • Feb 2002
                                            • 2527

                                            #71
                                            right
                                            i'm very aware of that.
                                            i should have clarified, what terrorists (who are on someone's watch list) go thru regular customs NOW, at this moment with fingerprints and the other stuff?

                                            they can still have a bad guy who has no history go thru with his visa and come in and do his thing. there are already about 5000 sleepers that nobody knows where they are. and who knows how many more come in thru mexico every day
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                                            • AOJ Brian
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                                              • Apr 2003
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                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by chemicaleyes
                                              yeah, that's cause most of the people residing in the US have never, ever left the US.
                                              I for one am grateful for this. :D

                                              Brian

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                                              • aleck
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                                                • Jan 2001
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                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by Ironhorse


                                                I don't know man, I bet I can jump in my car tomorrow in Chicago and I can cruise to any state without any hassle whasoever as long as I abide local laws, basically speed limiits and basic human order, try this in any other country..good luck.
                                                i've tried. no probs. maybe you watch foxnews too much?

                                                Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                we're being attacked by foriegners.

                                                we're not likely to care how difficult its become for them to travel here.

                                                As the largest consumer country in the world, we'll handle the economic fall out.

                                                You won't find El-Al passengers being fingerprinted.
                                                Once the euro pansies realize we won't allow them to be a revolving door for terrorists, things will return to normal.
                                                surely if that Saudi brothers of american nation would be fingerprinted the planes won't blow. of course
                                                come trade shemale traffic here

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                                                • Lane
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                                                  • Apr 2001
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                                                  #74
                                                  just another step towards fascism

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                                                  • scooby doo as scooby does
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                                                    • Nov 2002
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                                                    #75
                                                    Tourism's gotta be the smallest hit surely. Looking at the wider picture, this is basically just adding costs to the price of doing business with America. Look how much business is relocating out of America (and the UK for that matter) already. This has gotta hurt in the long run. Dunno to what degree tho.

                                                    Can't help feeling it wont work anyway, can't believe a terrorist couldn't sneak into the U.S. if they wanted to. Those huge land borders and long coastlines. This has gotta be a political 'look! I'm doing something' move. Or maybe a sneaky way to bolster the immigration laws *shrug*
                                                    Last edited by scooby doo as scooby does; 01-11-2004, 10:49 AM.
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                                                    • aleck
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                                                      • Jan 2001
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                                                      #76
                                                      i doubt as well it will kill the tourist industry, with US dollar being so cheap it just won't happen.

                                                      as for terrorists - read this
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                                                      • directfiesta
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                                                        • Oct 2002
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                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by Ironhorse


                                                        I'm not sure why you think this is funny or stupid, US is huge and many folks spend their entire lives never having to leave it's borders..
                                                        True. Many of them don't even leave their trailer parks ....
                                                        I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                        But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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