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  • 12clicks
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jan 2001
    • 19814
    #101
    Originally posted by punkworld


    Have you been drinking?
    You seem to have some serious trouble following the subject and staying coherent, and usually you do a much better job in defending your viewpoints.
    look, he finally realizes he's in over his head.
    I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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      • Libertine
        sex dwarf
        • May 2002
        • 17860
        #102
        Originally posted by 12clicks


        look, he finally realizes he's in over his head.
        Why does noticing that you are rambling incoherently and seem to have a particular love for the straw man argument mean I'm realizing I'm in over my head?

        So far you have failed to provide even one real argument. The only one you posted in this thread that was even remotely on topic showed you have no knowledge whatsoever of what a flat tax rate is and what the effects are.
        /(bb|[^b]{2})/

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          • baddog
            So Fucking Banned
            • Apr 2001
            • 107089
            #103
            Originally posted by AlienQ
            He got my vote.
            Madonna endorsed him too

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              • 12clicks
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Jan 2001
                • 19814
                #104
                Originally posted by punkworld


                Why does noticing that you are rambling incoherently and seem to have a particular love for the straw man argument mean I'm realizing I'm in over my head?

                So far you have failed to provide even one real argument. The only one you posted in this thread that was even remotely on topic showed you have no knowledge whatsoever of what a flat tax rate is and what the effects are.
                sure kid.
                I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                  • baddog
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Apr 2001
                    • 107089
                    #105
                    Originally posted by Rich
                    I don't see why everyone rules out a Kucinich/Sharpton ticket in '04.
                    well that would cinch a win for Bush

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                      • baddog
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Apr 2001
                        • 107089
                        #106
                        Originally posted by tony404


                        Considering some have three times the education of you and me, help shape the future minds of America and make $50 grand that is shit.
                        ummm, what school teachers are you talking about? University professors? There are very few elementary school teachers with 3 times the education of me, and I don't even have a degree.

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                          • baddog
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Apr 2001
                            • 107089
                            #107
                            Originally posted by broke
                            I can't believe that we still don't have a flat tax.

                            Based on 2001 returns at flat tax rate (based on earned income without any loopholes or deductions) of 15% across the board would actually increase the amount of imcome tax collected.

                            I still can't comprehend how Russia beat us to a flat tax system.
                            primarily because of corporations that pay less taxes via deductions and loopholes than they would pay if there was a flat 10% tax.

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                              • 12clicks
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Jan 2001
                                • 19814
                                #108
                                Originally posted by baddog
                                primarily because of corporations that pay less taxes via deductions and loopholes than they would pay if there was a flat 10% tax.
                                the idea that a corporation should pay taxes at all is what keeps the economy from REALLY expanding.
                                politicians come to the stupid and say"those bad corporations need to be taxed"

                                a corporation is a vehicle for doing business, not a person lining their pockets.

                                When a person profits from a corporation, there is a tax event. A corporation bringing in money is just an action of business, not a profit event. its not profit until a person puts it in their pocket. The government already taxes that but because of a stupid electorate, we tax money brought into the corp wether its profit or not.
                                that's wrong and it stifles the economy.
                                I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                  • broke
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Aug 2003
                                    • 4501
                                    #109
                                    Originally posted by baddog
                                    primarily because of corporations that pay less taxes via deductions and loopholes than they would pay if there was a flat 10% tax.
                                    I was speaking regarding individual income tax not business tax and the numbers were based on 2001 total personal income tax paid and total AGI.
                                    Perfect Gonzo

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                                      • NBDesign
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jan 2003
                                        • 5814
                                        #110
                                        Originally posted by Fletch XXX


                                        Sit back, write off Hummers through strategic loop holes and yeah, this is helping America.

                                        http://intellectualize.org/archives/003009.html

                                        Maybe helping Alaska!
                                        No, it is helping america. Gotta have a reason to take over those iraq oil fields... gotta fuel up those SUV's.

                                        Think about it... Give a ridiculous tax break on some of the most gas sucking vehicles on the face of the planet and make the american public need the fuel that much more.

                                        Funny, there are people running their engines on moonshine... and other fuels so why do we still ned oil? Oh yea... so the oil barrons can keep their jobs, start wars and let's see... what else?

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                                          • ThunderBalls
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • Oct 2002
                                            • 2926
                                            #111
                                            Originally posted by 12clicks

                                            the idea that a corporation should pay taxes at all is what keeps the economy from REALLY expanding.
                                            politicians come to the stupid and say"those bad corporations need to be taxed"

                                            a corporation is a vehicle for doing business, not a person lining their pockets.

                                            When a person profits from a corporation, there is a tax event. A corporation bringing in money is just an action of business, not a profit event. its not profit until a person puts it in their pocket. The government already taxes that but because of a stupid electorate, we tax money brought into the corp wether its profit or not.
                                            that's wrong and it stifles the economy.


                                            You really need to go to school and learn what a corporation is. It is a LEGAL ENTITY, which means it has its own rights and liabilities seperate from its owners. In legal terms it is its own person, so of course a corp should be taxed.

                                            From an economic standpoint having a corporate tax encourages businesses to put profits back into the system, whether it be hiring more people, purchasing/leasing equipment, investing, etc. Which in turn creates economic growth.

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                                              • 12clicks
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Jan 2001
                                                • 19814
                                                #112
                                                Originally posted by ThunderBalls




                                                You really need to go to school and learn what a corporation is. It is a LEGAL ENTITY, which means it has its own rights and liabilities seperate from its owners. In legal terms it is its own person, so of course a corp should be taxed.
                                                really asshat? when a corporation breaks the law, who goes to jail?
                                                No one said it wasn't a legal entity. You really need to go back to school and lear reading comprehension.

                                                Originally posted by ThunderBalls
                                                From an economic standpoint having a corporate tax encourages businesses to put profits back into the system, whether it be hiring more people, purchasing/leasing equipment, investing, etc. Which in turn creates economic growth.
                                                No it doesn't, it encourages short sited economic spending. A corp. sitting on a pile of savings can weather many more downturns than a company who spends it every year so it doesn't lose whatever the % of the year is.
                                                Why would a corp. save 1mil a year when say 40% of it is lost at the end of the year to taxes?
                                                That 40% stifles growth. period.
                                                but hey, it makes the rabble feel good about taking money from those evil corporations.
                                                I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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