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  • 4shadow
    Registered User
    • Jan 2003
    • 90

    #1

    Truth about Perfection(Jeff)

    This thread is in response to Jeff's post:
    Jeff's post

    First of all, I am Dana's consigliere. Here is the truth about the entire situation:

    After Internext 2003, Dana and I met with Jeff and finalized her contract. I had some intrepidations and Jeff reworded some of the contract to accommodate our wishes. Dana's contract was this: $1000/month + 10% of sales. Very simple. Her requirements were to shoot 12 sets, per month, plus (if memory serves me correct) four 5-minute videos. Dana shot her required amount in January. At the end of January, Jeff gave Dana a $1000 check - which promply bounced. Under my advice, she contacted him and he blamed it on a bank error. Since she was leaving town and had to pay bills, I loaned her the money until Jeff "dropped off her payment". The day Dana was leaving, Jeff came by her apartment and paid her a cash sum equal to exactly $200 and said that "it was all I could get from the ATM. I will get the rest when you get back." When Dana returned, he brought her the additional $800. She was also given her percentage of sales for January

    During the month of February, Dana also shot content. As Jeff posted earlier, she has completed 28 sets of photos and aledgedly 4 videos. She was issued a check for $1000 and it bounced. Some time after that, he gave her $1000 in cash. No percentage of sales was ever given to her for February

    At the end of March, Dana was leaving on a trip for Germany. She contacted Jeff and asked if she could complete her March photos, so she could get paid. He ageed and she shot content She was issued a check for $1000 and the day before she left for Germany, it bounced. She was counting on that money for bills and spending money. Under my advice, again, she contacted Jeff. Again, he claimed it was a "bank error" and he would drop the check off to her mother by the coming Friday. Again, Dana borrowed the money, from her mother, and trusted Jeff's word. Jeff never showed up.

    Upon returning from Germany in mid-april, Dana attempted to contact Jeff. While she had been gone, Jeff had moved and changed his phone numbers. She had no way to get in touch with him. So, she quit trying. He never called or attempted to contact her, in any way.

    On June 11th, Dana posted her first post on GFY.
    Dana - June 11th

    She was hoping to hear from Jeff and continue with the agreement, along with being compensated for the previous bounced check.

    After Jeff read the post, he called her and said some very hateful things. He acted like it was entirely her fault and acted like he had zero blame. Believing Jeff's line of bullshit again, Dana agreed to come continue her contract under the following conditions: Jeff would contact CCBill and have CCBill pay Dana directly. She would receive 50% of sales, until the money Jeff owed her was paid. At the time that this occurred, she would come back and shoot additional photos for Perfection Girls and continue on the $1000/month + 10% of sales contract that they had signed. She consulted with me, I agreed it would be fair. She agreed to this and three days later posted the following response on GFY:

    Dana's 2nd post

    Dana has never been compensated for the bounced check in March or the bounced check fees that Jeff is responsible for. She has never seen a single penny from CCBill, as Jeff had promised her in June, and has been very patient with him.

    In December, they talked again and she agreed to go to Vegas with the intent of hoping this could all get resolved. As a final show of good faith, Jeff gave her a check for $500 - to show her his intent to pay her in full and make things right. Her naked photos and videos had been on the internet for almost a year and she had been paid a total of $2500 (less bounced check fees). I advised her against the Vegas trip, but she wanted to give Jeff one, final, chance to make things right.

    Obviously, everyone knows the rest of the story. She has still only received a total of $2500 (less bounced check fees) for her work. Jeff has continually lied about this - along with everything else in life.

    Jeff is nothing but a bad excuse for a pimp. He prances "his" girls around, spends money like a rock star, and doesn't pay anyone - including his affilliates - in full.

    At this point, I have no comment on the CCBill/Perfection situation. It is none of our business and I frankly do not care who's responsibility it is.

    Officially, Dana will have no further comments, to anyone, regarding this situation. She has been advised to remain quiet, for legal reasons.

    Lastly, Jeff's post stating that him "and everyone else in Vegas" has slept with Dana (see link below) is hateful and mean. This never occurred. Dana has never, nor will ever, give Jeff that kind of pleasure. Her relationship with him was strictly business. 3rd Post Down

    Thank You,

    DJO
    Is still figuring this out!
  • angelsofporn
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2002
    • 3218

    #2
    this guy is sooo busted...some people just cant get it together no matter how hard they try

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    • xanx
      Confirmed User
      • Apr 2002
      • 3711

      #3
      At the end of January, Jeff gave Dana a $1000 check - which promply bounced.
      She was issued a check for $1000 and it bounced.
      He ageed and she shot content She was issued a check for $1000 and the day before she left for Germany, it bounced.

      This guy is a class act
      Last edited by xanx; 01-10-2004, 08:09 PM.

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      • tbabe
        Confirmed User
        • Dec 2003
        • 2494

        #4
        crazy

        Still one of the best programs on the net.


        According to their banner, you can get rich.

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        • funkmaster
          So Fucking Banned
          • Sep 2001
          • 7938

          #5
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          • Mutt
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Sep 2002
            • 34431

            #6
            nobody ever listens to me
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            • greentea
              Confirmed User
              • Mar 2002
              • 6580

              #7
              This guy bounces more checks then a nerf ball.
              blunts

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              • rooster
                Confirmed User
                • Jan 2003
                • 2384

                #8
                you people are too nice. One bounced check and I would have told him to go fuck himself.


                Ive never bounced a check in my fucking life, its pretty easy to avoid.

                If it smells like shit, it pretty much always is.
                Ever notice that pretty much everything added to the Constitution after the original was a mistake.

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                • BradShaw
                  Confirmed User
                  • Oct 2001
                  • 7840

                  #9
                  Jeff seems to be a class act. Amazing CCBILL has not posted once to back him up. I think that speaks volumes. He is not exactly big enough to "protect".
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                  • Vitasoy
                    GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 58202

                    #10
                    shitty deal


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                    • xanx
                      Confirmed User
                      • Apr 2002
                      • 3711

                      #11
                      Originally posted by greentea
                      This guy bounces more checks then a nerf ball.
                      where I come from that illegal

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                      • TheSenator
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 13330

                        #12
                        Walks like a ____ Quacks like a ____ It must be a ____
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                        • PerfectionGirls
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 4484

                          #13
                          Shit.. dont even start...

                          lol

                          Dana, do you really want me to list them? lol Holy shit! haha!

                          I can name three... two of which our staff members and that just at the show. We wont talk about that wild ride back from teh players ball either.. lol Man... arnt you engauged?


                          Shit.. the girl is cool... when shes drunk. Now, she gets her sex buddy from a year ago to come to her defense. He' a fucktard that lives with mommy from what I remember. Go ahead kiddies.. lie away. Nice try and see you in court!
                          Last edited by PerfectionGirls; 01-10-2004, 08:23 PM.
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                          • Mr.Fiction
                            Confirmed User
                            • Feb 2002
                            • 9484

                            #14
                            Someone needs to post a pic of the girl from the first post and also a pic of Jeff, then I'll make my call on who's in the right.
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                            • Ic3m4nZ
                              Confirmed User
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 6285

                              #15
                              Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
                              Shit.. dont even start...

                              lol

                              Dana, do you really want me to list them? lol Holy shit! haha!

                              I can name three... two of which our staff members and that just at the show. We wont talk about that wild ride back from teh players ball either.. lol Man... arnt you engauged?


                              Shit.. the girl is cool... when shes drunk. Now, she gets her sex buddy from a year ago to come to her defense. He' a fucktard that lives with mommy from what I remember. Go ahead kiddies.. lie away. Nice try and see you in court!

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                              • Corona
                                Confirmed User
                                • Feb 2002
                                • 2185

                                #16
                                Originally posted by funkmaster
                                <font size="22">JEFF IS A PEDOPHILE </font>
                                Don't hold it in. Tell us how you really feel.
                                I was looking for a job, and then I found a job
                                And heaven knows I'm miserable now

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                                • 4shadow
                                  Registered User
                                  • Jan 2003
                                  • 90

                                  #17
                                  Jeff-

                                  You always have been classless. I look forward, each and every day, to your new lies.

                                  If you can prove that any of that post is a lie, go ahead. Otherwise, you should keep quiet. See, Dana can prove she hasn't been paid, Dana can prove the bounced checks, and your history of lies and deceit are getting you nowhere in life.

                                  As for your personal attacks on me, I live in Farmington Hills, Michigan, by myself. I am a successful businessman, with an excellent reputation. I paid my bills to the City of Canton - don't you still have a lawsuit pending for unpaid bills to the same City??

                                  Dana and I have always been best friends. Think what you want, but I do not have a sexual relationship with her. When people respect what you tell them, and know that you don't lie to them, they know they can trust you and your word. It's an interesting concept you do not appear to be grasping.

                                  By the way, you should, at minimum, do a spell check when posting. Your poor spelling makes you appear unintelligent. But, then again, you are nothing but a street pimp.

                                  DJO
                                  Is still figuring this out!

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                                  • Kevin2
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • May 2003
                                    • 1429

                                    #18
                                    Damn it seems you are missing the opportunity to clear your name Jeff. Respond here http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showt...threadid=219356

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                                    • gin
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Sep 2003
                                      • 672

                                      #19
                                      damn.. so.. a hot girl will suck me off and do whatever i want and make 12 sets of content a month and pay her 1,000$? where do i sign

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                                      • skillfull
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Apr 2003
                                        • 4716

                                        #20
                                        Jeff
                                        a little msg to you
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                                        • Paul Markham
                                          Too old to care
                                          • Jun 2001
                                          • 52942

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
                                          Shit.. dont even start...

                                          lol

                                          Dana, do you really want me to list them? lol Holy shit! haha!

                                          I can name three... two of which our staff members and that just at the show. We wont talk about that wild ride back from teh players ball either.. lol Man... arnt you engauged?


                                          Shit.. the girl is cool... when shes drunk. Now, she gets her sex buddy from a year ago to come to her defense. He' a fucktard that lives with mommy from what I remember. Go ahead kiddies.. lie away. Nice try and see you in court!
                                          You are scum.

                                          If a girl chooses to screw the whole world it's her choice and has nothing to do with you. Remeber we are the guys selling naked pictures of them.

                                          But bouncing a check is a No NO. You are scum. Simple as that.

                                          If you bounce checks and don't pay girls you shoot, affiliates must have a very hard time with you.

                                          Trust is earnt not a given thing.
                                          Last edited by Paul Markham; 01-10-2004, 09:32 PM.



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                                          • serious
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • May 2003
                                            • 2594

                                            #22
                                            What amazes me is how Jeff keeps trying to defend himself, when it is clearly being shown over and over and over... and over again that he is a complete scumbag.
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                                            • greentea
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Mar 2002
                                              • 6580

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by serious
                                              What amazes me is how Jeff keeps trying to defend himself, when it is clearly being shown over and over and over... and over again that he is a complete scumbag.

                                              His damage control makes things worse.. Think about it, he is a proven scumbag with a track record. His titanic is heading for icebergs, but he thinks he can avoid them.

                                              The titanic SUNK!


                                              The next step is reinventing himself all over again, im sure he in the process of doing that now.
                                              blunts

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                                              • Brad Xtremepay
                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                • Dec 2003
                                                • 2000

                                                #24
                                                Er... ack. My Dana is getting shit on?
                                                I don't know this whole situation is fucked up.

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                                                • bdld
                                                  $100,000
                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                  • 11452

                                                  #25
                                                  the drama is endless

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                                                  • KaLi
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Aug 2003
                                                    • 4371

                                                    #26
                                                    Yeah, this shit is fucking stupid. Nobody should be treated this way. I always thought Perfection Cash was a great affiliate program, Scooter is a nice guy and I hold nothing against him. He is a good guy imo. But some people that I have become friends with in this industry have been affected by you and I will no longer promote Perfection Cash in any way. You can bullshit all you want, or say everyone else is bullshitting, but the truth will come out. You went from not paying some designers, to not paying your affiliates, to not paying your models. Whether its true, or not, I believe you couldve handled this a little more professional. But I guess thats just my opinion

                                                    As of today any traffic of mine being sent to Perfection Cash will be sent elsewhere.
                                                    Last edited by KaLi; 01-10-2004, 10:28 PM.

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                                                    • Carrie
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Apr 2002
                                                      • 3162

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by charly
                                                      You are scum.

                                                      If a girl chooses to screw the whole world it's her choice and has nothing to do with you.

                                                      Damn straight!
                                                      It's high time more men realized that if they can screw 100 girls and be congratulated for it, then women can screw 100 men and be congratulated for it as well.
                                                      The old "men who sleep around are studs, women who sleep around are dirty sluts" thing is just that - old. Move into this century.

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                                                      • beemk
                                                        CLICK HERE
                                                        • Jan 2002
                                                        • 20829

                                                        #28
                                                        out of all the posts to reply to and back your story up you only talk about how she really did fuck guys in vegas but didnt back yourself up at all about bouncing all those checks?
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                                                        • jaYMan
                                                          peace&profit,
                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                          • 4885

                                                          #29
                                                          Scooter is a nice guy
                                                          I agree.

                                                          for Scooter.
                                                          ;)
                                                          peace&profit,
                                                          jaYMan

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                                                          • beemk
                                                            CLICK HERE
                                                            • Jan 2002
                                                            • 20829

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Carrie

                                                            The old "men who sleep around are studs, women who sleep around are dirty sluts" thing is just that - old. Move into this century.
                                                            its still the same, i admit that im a slut though. its just more accepted. charly is right though. that has nothing to do with the business he had involved with her.
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                                                            • Nickless
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Aug 2003
                                                              • 1955

                                                              #31
                                                              Up until now he was only scum at a business level, now talking shit about a girl which happens to be a model for you (was)
                                                              that's scum on a human level, and very low.

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                                                              • Brujah
                                                                Beer Money Baron
                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                • 22157

                                                                #32
                                                                Ouch.

                                                                Jeff, just stop posting man.

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                                                                • foolio
                                                                  ICQ: 178725656
                                                                  • Nov 2002
                                                                  • 12366

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
                                                                  Shit.. dont even start...
                                                                  Damm man- you are a true asshole.

                                                                  All I can say is your mom shoulda taken the load on the chin that one night - the world would be a MUCH better place without your punk ass.

                                                                  Bouncing checks to everybody, talking shit about everybody - you are truly dicksnot.

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                                                                  • darling
                                                                    Registered User
                                                                    • Jan 2004
                                                                    • 67

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Jeff,

                                                                    You are a dirty scumbag. Pay the woman!

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                                                                    • Brad Xtremepay
                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                      • Dec 2003
                                                                      • 2000

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Scooter =
                                                                      SAVE SCOOTER

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                                                                      • malakajoe
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Feb 2003
                                                                        • 1751

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by beemk
                                                                        out of all the posts to reply to and back your story up you only talk about how she really did fuck guys in vegas but didnt back yourself up at all about bouncing all those checks?
                                                                        It is great how people on GFY are finally seeing how some people act. For so long, I saw people avoid issues and no one said anything. Finally, people are stepping up and calling people on issues. This is how it should be.

                                                                        Jeff..you need to hire a good PR person. If you are right or wrong, a good PR person will help you considerably...because, again right or wrong, you aren't that good at public relations.
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                                                                        • BRISK
                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                                          • 12240

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Is this the Dana you're talking about?

                                                                          http://www.danateen.com/welcome.php
                                                                          I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
                                                                          I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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                                                                          • Nickless
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Aug 2003
                                                                            • 1955

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by BRISK
                                                                            Is this the Dana you're talking about?

                                                                            http://www.danateen.com/welcome.php
                                                                            yup

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                                                                            • psyko514
                                                                              See sig. Join Epic Cash.
                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                              • 22366

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Facts about Jeff and PerfectionCash

                                                                              According to CCBill's explanation, the supposed glitch only affected accounts set to 0. PerfectionCash was set to 1. So therefore, the glitch did not affect PerfectionCash.

                                                                              Jeff is claiming there's another glitch that only affected a limited amount of webmasters within a given period. This information has not been supported by anyone from CCBill.

                                                                              Jeff claims only 27 webmasters who signed up between April and June were affected. However, many webmasters signed up when the threads started and saw their accounts set to one rebill as well. And if I were to compile a list of webmasters who saw it on their own accounts across the different forums, it would definetly surpass 27 webmasters.

                                                                              Even if all this can be attributed to a CCBill glitch, Jeff is still not paying out bonuses as he claims to do. This has nothing to do with the glitch.

                                                                              CCBill has never backed Jeff or PerfectionCash by name. CCBill has also been strangely silent when faced with questions concerning this glitch.

                                                                              The amount of affiliates Jeff has constantly changes. Back in May, he claimed to have nearly 2000 affiliates. Earlier this week, he claimed 1200. Now he's claiming 900.

                                                                              Shaving aside, Jeff has been proving time and again to be a scumbag. He has neglected to pay several designers for work. Over the course of several months, he has given them all the same lame excuse about wire problems. We've seen at least one model who has also heard the same excuse. Jeff, if your bank has so many problems with wires, perhaps you should switch banks or choose a different payment method.

                                                                              Also, there's accusation of pedophilia and the underage, non-nude teen sites he runs and is proud of.

                                                                              Let's not forget when he added someone's site to his program and then replaced to site with a full page ad to Brittany Blu (one of his sites).

                                                                              Jeff always has been and always will be a lying, cheating scumbag. Be forewarned. If you want to send your traffic to him, expect to be fucked unless you can help him fuck over others.

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                                                                              • 4shadow
                                                                                Registered User
                                                                                • Jan 2003
                                                                                • 90

                                                                                #40
                                                                                There are just too many excuses. Ultimately, the blame has to fall on the person who runs the company - that's what he is getting paid for....to take the blame and be responsible for proper fiscal management of the company.

                                                                                DJO
                                                                                Is still figuring this out!

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                                                                                • Trax
                                                                                  [----------------------]
                                                                                  • Aug 2001
                                                                                  • 14486

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  ouch
                                                                                  sucks to be him

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                                                                                  • Scootermuze
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Dec 2001
                                                                                    • 4513

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    I don't have a dog in this race, but it appears to me, by all of the posts, that some of you are still trying to convince the readers that this Jeff guy should be avoided..

                                                                                    If, in the case of this thread, the girl is owed money, then any contract is void and she can demand that all of her content be pulled from the site.

                                                                                    And.. all affiliates can pull their links..

                                                                                    It's been shown in numerous threads that any affiliation is an obvious risk and not worth taking it.

                                                                                    Another case of, "theft of services" which can land the guy in jail until the amount owed is paid in full..

                                                                                    And another case of passing bad checks..

                                                                                    Such a track record should tell all who continue to do business.. you deserve what you get..

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                                                                                    • boneprone
                                                                                      Hall Of Fame
                                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                                      • 34415

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      With that said, I had a great time at the Perfection Cash Party.


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                                                                                      • Dirty F
                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                                                        • 59204

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        1 or 2 shitty things can happen to anyone but this guy has problem after problem after problem. Its pretty clear hes an asshole an someone to avoid from now on.

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                                                                                        • Dirty F
                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                                          • 59204

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=135823

                                                                                          Ofcourse this guy even has more history of non payments.

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                                                                                          • 4shadow
                                                                                            Registered User
                                                                                            • Jan 2003
                                                                                            • 90

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            There are just too many excuses. Ultimately, the blame has to fall on the person who runs the company - that's what he is getting paid for....to take the blame and be responsible for proper fiscal management of the company.

                                                                                            DJO
                                                                                            Is still figuring this out!

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                                                                                            • Paul
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                                                              • 2637

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Anyone who promotes any sites that Jeff is involved in is a complete and utter idiot. When there is as much negative threads about one company as Jeffs you need to permantly put it on your blacklist

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                                                                                              • frank7799
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Jul 2003
                                                                                                • 1974

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by charly
                                                                                                You are scum.

                                                                                                If a girl chooses to screw the whole world it's her choice and has nothing to do with you. Remeber we are the guys selling naked pictures of them.

                                                                                                But bouncing a check is a No NO. You are scum. Simple as that.

                                                                                                If you bounce checks and don't pay girls you shoot, affiliates must have a very hard time with you.

                                                                                                Trust is earnt not a given thing.
                                                                                                That´s really true. And if the girl wold have fucked half the world, it´s not a reason not to pay her for the shootings she did.

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                                                                                                • NBDesign
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                                                                  • 5814

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by rooster
                                                                                                  you people are too nice. One bounced check and I would have told him to go fuck himself.


                                                                                                  Ive never bounced a check in my fucking life, its pretty easy to avoid.

                                                                                                  If it smells like shit, it pretty much always is.

                                                                                                  Use Lensman's program and get the most for your hard earned traffic.


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                                                                                                  She makes a great Addition to any site. Grab one Grab All.

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                                                                                                  • wayward
                                                                                                    Registered User
                                                                                                    • Oct 2003
                                                                                                    • 42

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    check that program off my list...i dont post here that much, dont have time to right now...will more soon, but i checked the forum at the right time, now its posted all over the internet on multiple other forums...his business is sunk...honestly is always the best medicine in my opinion...

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