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  • Donny
    As you wish...
    • May 2002
    • 13754
    #1

    XBiz awards seriously were fucked up, with one exception.

    GFY was the right choice.

    All the other "winners": what the fuck? Politics... pure and simple.


    Sorry if this pisses anyone off. If you were one of the "winners", don't take it personal. But the best in each category were NOT chosen (with the one mentioned exception) this year.

    That doesn't mean I have something against the winners. I just think there were others in each category that should have won.



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    • TDF
      Triple OG nigga on GFY
      • Mar 2002
      • 27296
      #2
      i heard people at the round bar telling winners before the event
      Sig heil

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        • Donny
          As you wish...
          • May 2002
          • 13754
          #3
          Originally posted by toodamnfli
          i heard people at the round bar telling winners before the event
          I was SO mad. I actually started making very loud comments. I could NOT believe who was being chosen. I am very disappointed in the judges. They obviously didn't make their choices based on who was actually the BEST in each category.

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            • TDF
              Triple OG nigga on GFY
              • Mar 2002
              • 27296
              #4
              Originally posted by DonovanPhillips


              I was SO mad. I actually started making very loud comments. I could NOT believe who was being chosen. I am very disappointed in the judges. They obviously didn't make their choices based on who was actually the BEST in each category.

              yeah, I was pretty pissed considering it was the night before the show..where was my bookie when I needed him?
              Sig heil

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                • Digipimp
                  BP4L OT DL
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 13481
                  #5
                  Originally posted by DonovanPhillips


                  I was SO mad. I actually started making very loud comments. I could NOT believe who was being chosen. I am very disappointed in the judges. They obviously didn't make their choices based on who was actually the BEST in each category.
                  That's the way it always works, all award shows are fake unless it's the actual people that get to vote and even then it can still end up screwed up, just look at our president.

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                    • Donny
                      As you wish...
                      • May 2002
                      • 13754
                      #6
                      Here are the judges:


                      Matt - PSW Billing
                      Chris - Paycom
                      Ron - hahahahahahahahahahahaha
                      Holly - Moss Consulting
                      Tina - VideoSecrets
                      Rainey - XXXCash
                      Norman - Matrix
                      Quentin - Top Bucks
                      Mike - Twin Dreams
                      MikeB - CECash
                      Aly - Python
                      Mandy - TabooRevenue
                      Tanja - Goodthinxxx
                      webmaster - Blue Design
                      BigB - CECash
                      Gary Kremen - Sex.com
                      Rocki - TrafficCashGold
                      Oystein - Mansion Productions
                      Raven - Sin-Text
                      Laurel - HustlerContent
                      Adrian - Auction Points
                      Steve - Deviant Cash
                      Nikko - Eurodialer
                      Dave - Platinum Bucks
                      Dokk - Dokk
                      Dravyk - allofem.com
                      Dave - Pimproll
                      Dave - Cyberage
                      Christian - Atlas Multimedia
                      Cynthia - AEBN
                      Michael - Sex Entertain

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                        • Mr.Fiction
                          Confirmed User
                          • Feb 2002
                          • 9484
                          #7
                          Originally posted by Digipimp


                          That's the way it always works, all award shows are fake unless it's the actual people that get to vote and even then it can still end up screwed up, just look at our president.
                          He only got a half million less votes than Gore, why shouldn't he have won?
                          Don't be lazy, protect free speech: ACLU | Free Speech Coalition | EFF | IMPA

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                            • Mr. Marks
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jun 2001
                              • 7517
                              #8
                              its all in the system for judging, hope ill be chosen as a winner next time

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                                • Donny
                                  As you wish...
                                  • May 2002
                                  • 13754
                                  #9
                                  And here are the winners:

                                  Best Affiliate Program
                                  ARS

                                  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                                  Best Content Provider
                                  VideoSecrets

                                  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                                  Best Billing Service
                                  Epoch

                                  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                                  Best Web Host
                                  Webair

                                  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                                  Best Design Service
                                  Wylde Sites

                                  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                                  Most Innovative Product
                                  StatsRemote

                                  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                                  People's Choice
                                  GoFuckYourself


                                  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                                  Industry Achievement
                                  Larry Flynt





                                  Larry deserved to win, GFY deserved to win. In all other categories, there was a better alternative.

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                                    • dig420
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • May 2001
                                      • 9240
                                      #10
                                      imho xbiz has done a helluva job since their startup, I've been very impressed.

                                      I just went and took a look at their awards, nothing seems out of line to me except maybe Flynt's industry achievement.

                                      in fact, everything that's come out of Helmy has been top notch since they started and they're damn nice guys, why the hate?

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                                        • The Truth Hurts
                                          Zph7YXfjMhg
                                          • Nov 2002
                                          • 15776
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by DonovanPhillips

                                          Larry deserved to win, GFY deserved to win. In all other categories, there was a better alternative.
                                          Such as?

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                                            • Mr.Fiction
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Feb 2002
                                              • 9484
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
                                              Here are the judges:

                                              Norman - Matrix
                                              Don't be lazy, protect free speech: ACLU | Free Speech Coalition | EFF | IMPA

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                                                • Digipimp
                                                  BP4L OT DL
                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                  • 13481
                                                  #13
                                                  Yeah Larry Flynt has been huge for the adult internet.

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                                                    • Donny
                                                      As you wish...
                                                      • May 2002
                                                      • 13754
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by The Truth Hurts


                                                      Such as?
                                                      For example:

                                                      ARS over Lightspeed?

                                                      Epoch over CCBill?

                                                      Webair over National Net?




                                                      Gimme a break!

                                                      Does anyone have the full list of all nominees? If so, please post.

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                                                        • dig420
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • May 2001
                                                          • 9240
                                                          #15
                                                          Epoch leaves chunks of ccbill in it's waste every morning, and ARS probably only does, oh, say, 500x the signups that LS does. Don't see how these are poor choices...

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                                                            • The Truth Hurts
                                                              Zph7YXfjMhg
                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                              • 15776
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by Digipimp
                                                              Yeah Larry Flynt has been huge for the adult internet.


                                                              Apparently Larry Flynt gets different standards applied then everyone else... usually an ACACIA signer is subject to boycott and neverending bashing here.

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                                                                • OY
                                                                  Industry Pioneer
                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                  • 5401
                                                                  #17
                                                                  I think Xbiz has done a fantastic job since day one as well.

                                                                  As you might know, I was a judge this year - just as I was last year, and there is more...

                                                                  MPA2 - Mansion Productions product was nominated not only last year, but this as well.

                                                                  WE DID NOT WIN OUR CATEGORY.

                                                                  All I can say is congratulations to StatsRemote for winning my category, and hope that I will be nominated next year too.

                                                                  Three times is a charm, right?



                                                                  And stop all the bitching, bitches...
                                                                  Around since 1997, and the company that introduced "Cascading Billing" in MPA3® Affiliate Management and Tracking Software

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                                                                    • Donny
                                                                      As you wish...
                                                                      • May 2002
                                                                      • 13754
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by dig420
                                                                      Epoch leaves chunks of ccbill in it's waste every morning, and ARS probably only does, oh, say, 500x the signups that LS does. Don't see how these are poor choices...

                                                                      CCBill is so far ahead of Epoch in every way that it's not even funny. And how many signups a program does were not an issue.

                                                                      Are you a lightspeed affiliate? Have you been inside and taken a look around?

                                                                      This year's awards were based on personal relationships between the judges and the companies being judged, in my opinion. They were supposed to be based on who was the best in each category.

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                                                                        • Mr.Fiction
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Feb 2002
                                                                          • 9484
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by The Truth Hurts



                                                                          Apparently Larry Flynt gets different standards applied then everyone else... usually an ACACIA signer is subject to boycott and neverending bashing here.
                                                                          Usually the person who gets the most votes becomes president.
                                                                          Don't be lazy, protect free speech: ACLU | Free Speech Coalition | EFF | IMPA

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                                                                            • Donny
                                                                              As you wish...
                                                                              • May 2002
                                                                              • 13754
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by Oystein
                                                                              I think Xbiz has done a fantastic job since day one as well.

                                                                              As you might know, I was a judge this year - just as I was last year, and there is more...

                                                                              MPA2 - Mansion Productions product was nominated not only last year, but this as well.

                                                                              WE DID NOT WIN OUR CATEGORY.

                                                                              All I can say is congratulations to StatsRemote for winning my category, and hope that I will be nominated next year too.

                                                                              Three times is a charm, right?



                                                                              And stop all the bitching, bitches...
                                                                              StatsRemote over MPA2 is another example of the wrong decision being made. IMHO

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                                                                                • emmanuelle
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                                  • 3662
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  I see 2 or 3 judges who aren't fit to judge a kiddie talent contest.

                                                                                  Just because someone posts on the boards, pretending that they know what they're talking about, does not qualify them to judge others. How about ensuring that ALL of the judges are people who have actually accomplished something?

                                                                                  Another problem is that many of the judges represent companies who have strong aliances with some of the nominees, and others have grievances.

                                                                                  Taint!

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                                                                                    • The Truth Hurts
                                                                                      Zph7YXfjMhg
                                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                                      • 15776
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by DonovanPhillips

                                                                                      This year's awards were based on personal relationships between the judges and the companies being judged, in my opinion.
                                                                                      that would be a tough play with 5 judges..
                                                                                      with 31, it would almost seem impossible.

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                                                                                        • The Truth Hurts
                                                                                          Zph7YXfjMhg
                                                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                                                          • 15776
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


                                                                                          Usually the person who gets the most votes becomes president.
                                                                                          not to change the subject, but..
                                                                                          how many times did you complain about the Electoral College system BEFORE the 2000 election?




                                                                                          Didn't think so.

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                                                                                            • Donny
                                                                                              As you wish...
                                                                                              • May 2002
                                                                                              • 13754
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by emmanuelle
                                                                                              I see 2 or 3 judges who aren't fit to judge a kiddie talent contest.

                                                                                              Just because someone posts on the boards, pretending that they know what they're talking about, does not qualify them to judge others. How about ensuring that ALL of the judges are people who have actually accomplished something?

                                                                                              Another problem is that many of the judges represent companies who have strong aliances with some of the nominees, and others have grievances.

                                                                                              Taint!


                                                                                              AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!

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                                                                                                • dig420
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • May 2001
                                                                                                  • 9240
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by DonovanPhillips



                                                                                                  CCBill is so far ahead of Epoch in every way that it's not even funny. And how many signups a program does were not an issue.

                                                                                                  Are you a lightspeed affiliate? Have you been inside and taken a look around?

                                                                                                  This year's awards were based on personal relationships between the judges and the companies being judged, in my opinion. They were supposed to be based on who was the best in each category.
                                                                                                  Donovan, in what way is CCBill ahead of Epoch? I can't think of anything off the top of my head but you're welcome to enlighten me. Regarding programs, if signups generated isn't an issue then what is? What makes LS better than ARS? They have to be pals with Donovan Phillips? That seems to be your criteria, that they've allowed you in to take a look around. Hell you can come and hang out here for an afternoon if that's what it takes ;)

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                                                                                                    • dig420
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • May 2001
                                                                                                      • 9240
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
                                                                                                      This year's awards were based on personal relationships between the judges and the companies being judged, in my opinion. They were supposed to be based on who was the best in each category.
                                                                                                      I think you're basing your disappointment on your personal relationship with the companies that didn't win ;)

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                                                                                                        • The Truth Hurts
                                                                                                          Zph7YXfjMhg
                                                                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                                                                          • 15776
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by dig420


                                                                                                          I think you're basing your disappointment on your personal relationship with the companies that didn't win ;)

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                                                                                                            • OY
                                                                                                              Industry Pioneer
                                                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                                                              • 5401
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by DonovanPhillips


                                                                                                              StatsRemote over MPA2 is another example of the wrong decision being made. IMHO
                                                                                                              And I thank you for that comment, but I will always still congratulate StatsRemote for the victory and honor XBiz for the award show.

                                                                                                              I am also a personal friend of Helmy and is up until now the biggest looser of the award show history with two nominations and two losses.

                                                                                                              The last presidential elections on the other hand......!!!! LMAO

                                                                                                              Around since 1997, and the company that introduced "Cascading Billing" in MPA3® Affiliate Management and Tracking Software

                                                                                                              Outsourcing With A Norwegian Twist - NordBits - Inquire within!

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                                                                                                                • Paparazzi
                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                  • 3488
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by dig420
                                                                                                                  Epoch leaves chunks of ccbill in it's waste every morning, and ARS probably only does, oh, say, 500x the signups that LS does. Don't see how these are poor choices...
                                                                                                                  so it's based on wich one does the most signups?

                                                                                                                  Pure Level(3) Premium Bandwidth
                                                                                                                  When Quality Counts

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                                                                                                                    • Donny
                                                                                                                      As you wish...
                                                                                                                      • May 2002
                                                                                                                      • 13754
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by dig420


                                                                                                                      Donovan, in what way is CCBill ahead of Epoch? I can't think of anything off the top of my head but you're welcome to enlighten me. Regarding programs, if signups generated isn't an issue then what is? What makes LS better than ARS? They have to be pals with Donovan Phillips? That seems to be your criteria, that they've allowed you in to take a look around. Hell you can come and hang out here for an afternoon if that's what it takes ;)

                                                                                                                      CCBill is rock solid, consistent, and always innovative. How many posts do you see on here that say:

                                                                                                                      "Spam me with Epoch sponsors!"

                                                                                                                      ???

                                                                                                                      Why do you think people want to be "spammed with CCBill sponsors"

                                                                                                                      ???

                                                                                                                      Because CCBill is the best. Best admin tools. Best tracking of sales. Best at everything they do.


                                                                                                                      Lightspeed is a better affiliate program than ARS because Lightspeed offers better service to affiliates. Pure and simple.

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                                                                                                                        • Donny
                                                                                                                          As you wish...
                                                                                                                          • May 2002
                                                                                                                          • 13754
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Here are the nominees:

                                                                                                                          Best Affiliate Program:
                                                                                                                          - ARS (http://adultrevenueservice. com/)
                                                                                                                          - CECash (http://cecash. com/)
                                                                                                                          - AdultLounge (http://adultlounge. com/)
                                                                                                                          - Lightspeedcash (http://lightspeedcash. com/)

                                                                                                                          Best Content Provider:
                                                                                                                          - VideoSecrets (http://www.videosecrets. com/)
                                                                                                                          - Sexentertain (http://sexentertain. com/)
                                                                                                                          - Hustler Content (http://hustlercontent. com/)
                                                                                                                          - 1st Content (http://1stcontent. com/)

                                                                                                                          Best Billing Service:
                                                                                                                          - CCBill (http://ccbill. com/)
                                                                                                                          - Epoch Systems (http://epochsystems. com/)
                                                                                                                          - Goodthinxxcash (http://goodthinxx. com/)
                                                                                                                          - Netbilling (http://netbilling. com/)

                                                                                                                          Best Web Host:
                                                                                                                          - Webair (http://webair. com/)
                                                                                                                          - Jupiter Hosting (http://jupiterhosting. com/)
                                                                                                                          - ISPrime (http://www.isprime. com/)
                                                                                                                          - NationalNet (http://national-net. com/)

                                                                                                                          Best Design Service:
                                                                                                                          - Webinc (http://webinc. com/)
                                                                                                                          - Dickmans Design (http://dickmansdesign. com/)
                                                                                                                          - Blue Design Studios (http://bluedesignstudios. com/)
                                                                                                                          - Wyldesites (http://wyldesites. com/)

                                                                                                                          Most Innovative Product:
                                                                                                                          - AuctionPoints (http://auctionpoints. com/)
                                                                                                                          - hahahahahahahahahahahaha (http://hahahahahahahahahahahaha. com/)
                                                                                                                          - StatsRemote (http://www.statsremote. com/)
                                                                                                                          - MPA2 (http://www.mansionproductions. com/)

                                                                                                                          People's Choice:
                                                                                                                          - GFY
                                                                                                                          - Cybersocket (http://cybersocket. com/)
                                                                                                                          - XNations (http://xnations. com/)
                                                                                                                          - All Of 'Em (http://allofem. com/)

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                                                                                                                            • Donny
                                                                                                                              As you wish...
                                                                                                                              • May 2002
                                                                                                                              • 13754
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
                                                                                                                              Here are the nominees:

                                                                                                                              Best Affiliate Program:
                                                                                                                              - ARS (http://adultrevenueservice. com/)
                                                                                                                              - CECash (http://cecash. com/)
                                                                                                                              - AdultLounge (http://adultlounge. com/)
                                                                                                                              - Lightspeedcash (http://lightspeedcash. com/)

                                                                                                                              Best Content Provider:
                                                                                                                              - VideoSecrets (http://www.videosecrets. com/)
                                                                                                                              - Sexentertain (http://sexentertain. com/)
                                                                                                                              - Hustler Content (http://hustlercontent. com/)
                                                                                                                              - 1st Content (http://1stcontent. com/)

                                                                                                                              Best Billing Service:
                                                                                                                              - CCBill (http://ccbill. com/)
                                                                                                                              - Epoch Systems (http://epochsystems. com/)
                                                                                                                              - Goodthinxxcash (http://goodthinxx. com/)
                                                                                                                              - Netbilling (http://netbilling. com/)

                                                                                                                              Best Web Host:
                                                                                                                              - Webair (http://webair. com/)
                                                                                                                              - Jupiter Hosting (http://jupiterhosting. com/)
                                                                                                                              - ISPrime (http://www.isprime. com/)
                                                                                                                              - NationalNet (http://national-net. com/)

                                                                                                                              Best Design Service:
                                                                                                                              - Webinc (http://webinc. com/)
                                                                                                                              - Dickmans Design (http://dickmansdesign. com/)
                                                                                                                              - Blue Design Studios (http://bluedesignstudios. com/)
                                                                                                                              - Wyldesites (http://wyldesites. com/)

                                                                                                                              Most Innovative Product:
                                                                                                                              - AuctionPoints (http://auctionpoints. com/)

                                                                                                                              - Board Tracker (gfy doesn't allow URL to be posted)

                                                                                                                              - StatsRemote (http://www.statsremote. com/)
                                                                                                                              - MPA2 (http://www.mansionproductions. com/)

                                                                                                                              People's Choice:
                                                                                                                              - GFY
                                                                                                                              - Cybersocket (http://cybersocket. com/)
                                                                                                                              - XNations (http://xnations. com/)
                                                                                                                              - All Of 'Em (http://allofem. com/)

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                                                                                                                                • dig420
                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                  • May 2001
                                                                                                                                  • 9240
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  LS offers a healthplan, more or better sites? better promotional material? Do you do any shoots for LS?

                                                                                                                                  if I remember right, it was Epoch who came out with cross sales, member plus, cancel plus, one clicks.. ccbill has recently integrated xsales but I don't think they have the other features incorporated yet and they don't have anything unique that Epoch doesn't have that I can recall. Also, Epoch stats imho are far superior and I KNOW the scrub rate isn't nearly as bad, you make FAR more $$ with Epoch.

                                                                                                                                  Nothing against CCBill or LS, they're good guys, but I think you're way off base in your complaints here.

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                                                                                                                                    • The Truth Hurts
                                                                                                                                      Zph7YXfjMhg
                                                                                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                      • 15776
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by DonovanPhillips


                                                                                                                                      Because CCBill is the best. Best admin tools. Best tracking of sales. Best at everything they do.
                                                                                                                                      best built in shaving tools.

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                                                                                                                                        • Donny
                                                                                                                                          As you wish...
                                                                                                                                          • May 2002
                                                                                                                                          • 13754
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by dig420
                                                                                                                                          they don't have anything unique that Epoch doesn't have that I can recall.

                                                                                                                                          So are you saying you don't use ccbill? So you don't really know what they offer?

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                                                                                                                                            • dig420
                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                              • May 2001
                                                                                                                                              • 9240
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by DonovanPhillips



                                                                                                                                              So are you saying you don't use ccbill? So you don't really know what they offer?
                                                                                                                                              I used CCBill for a year or so several years ago, I still get money coming in from them. I haven't looked at the stats area recently but I haven't heard of anything new or exciting.

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                                                                                                                                                • SteveLightspeed
                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                  • 7940
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  I'm not complaining about losing to ARS. They are a great company. I've been inspired by some of their efforts myself.

                                                                                                                                                  I was damn proud to be nominated, and to receive a nice round of applause when our name was announced.

                                                                                                                                                  Congrats to the winners and thank you Xbiz for a good time!

                                                                                                                                                  Steve Lightspeed
                                                                                                                                                  Abra-cadabra!

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                                                                                                                                                    • dig420
                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                      • May 2001
                                                                                                                                                      • 9240
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Donovan, do you do much shooting for LS?

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                                                                                                                                                        • Donny
                                                                                                                                                          As you wish...
                                                                                                                                                          • May 2002
                                                                                                                                                          • 13754
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by The Truth Hurts


                                                                                                                                                          best built in shaving tools.

                                                                                                                                                          If you believe that you need to get yourself an education and move out of momma's house.

                                                                                                                                                          Just because Perfection Girls (allegedly) abused a great tool does not mean that tool is for shaving.

                                                                                                                                                          That tool makes it easy to take a recurring program and make it into a "pay per signup" program for affiliates that want PPS.

                                                                                                                                                          Example: I pay 50% recurring on Naked College Girls. But Choker wants PPS. So for Choker I can change him to 85% payout with zero rebills. Now all of a sudden Choker is paid $25.45 per sign up and I don't have to create a seperate sign up page for his traffic.

                                                                                                                                                          Cases like THAT are why such a tool was created. CCBill made it possible for affiliates to see when sponsors are abusing it.

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                                                                                                                                                            • Donny
                                                                                                                                                              As you wish...
                                                                                                                                                              • May 2002
                                                                                                                                                              • 13754
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by dig420


                                                                                                                                                              I used CCBill for a year or so several years ago, I still get money coming in from them. I haven't looked at the stats area recently but I haven't heard of anything new or exciting.
                                                                                                                                                              Log in sometime. There are lots of "new and exciting" tools.

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                                                                                                                                                                • The Truth Hurts
                                                                                                                                                                  Zph7YXfjMhg
                                                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                                                  • 15776
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by DonovanPhillips



                                                                                                                                                                  If you believe that you need to get yourself an education and move out of momma's house.
                                                                                                                                                                  whohoo.. grade school insults!

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                                                                                                                                                                    • dig420
                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                      • May 2001
                                                                                                                                                                      • 9240
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Lightspeed
                                                                                                                                                                      I'm not complaining about losing to ARS. They are a great company. I've been inspired by some of their efforts myself.

                                                                                                                                                                      I was damn proud to be nominated, and to receive a nice round of applause when our name was announced.

                                                                                                                                                                      Congrats to the winners and thank you Xbiz for a good time!

                                                                                                                                                                      Steve Lightspeed
                                                                                                                                                                      yeah it's saying something good to even be nominated imho, no shame in losing to a company with the huge resources that ARS has.

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                                                                                                                                                                        • Donny
                                                                                                                                                                          As you wish...
                                                                                                                                                                          • May 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by dig420
                                                                                                                                                                          Donovan, do you do much shooting for LS?
                                                                                                                                                                          Nope. Not at all. A few years ago I shot 2 girls for them. Richard turned down the next few girls I sent to him so I stopped submitting new models to him.

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                                                                                                                                                                            • dig420
                                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                              • May 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by DonovanPhillips


                                                                                                                                                                              Log in sometime. There are lots of "new and exciting" tools.
                                                                                                                                                                              I think I'll stick with the more exciting bank deposit Epoch gives me ;)

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                                                                                                                                                                                • Donny
                                                                                                                                                                                  As you wish...
                                                                                                                                                                                  • May 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by The Truth Hurts


                                                                                                                                                                                  whohoo.. grade school insults!
                                                                                                                                                                                  Read the comment again. It says "IF you believe......"

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Donny
                                                                                                                                                                                      As you wish...
                                                                                                                                                                                      • May 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 13754
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by dig420


                                                                                                                                                                                      I think I'll stick with the more exciting bank deposit Epoch gives me ;)
                                                                                                                                                                                      I assume the program in your sig is yours. If so, I'd say that you would be making more exciting deposits if you used CCBill. As pointed out further up this page, there are a LOT of people that only use CCBill sponsors. I cannot recall a post where someone wants to be spammed wiith a list of Epoch sponsors.

                                                                                                                                                                                      That being that case, those bank deposits would likely be higher if you were using CCBill.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Donny
                                                                                                                                                                                          As you wish...
                                                                                                                                                                                          • May 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Lightspeed
                                                                                                                                                                                          I'm not complaining about losing to ARS. They are a great company. I've been inspired by some of their efforts myself.
                                                                                                                                                                                          In my original post I stated:

                                                                                                                                                                                          "That doesn't mean I have something against the winners. I just think there were others in each category that should have won."

                                                                                                                                                                                          ARS is great. But there are better choices in their category. And in many of the other categories.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • dig420
                                                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                              • May 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              We'll have to agree to disagree. I've made substantial use of both programs and there was just no contest in the results. Maybe it would be different for someone else but Epoch just kicks CCbills ass on my sites. More initial joins and more methods for generating revenue from your existing members.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • bigdog
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by DonovanPhillips


                                                                                                                                                                                                  For example:

                                                                                                                                                                                                  ARS over Lightspeed?

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Epoch over CCBill?

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Webair over National Net?




                                                                                                                                                                                                  Gimme a break!

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Does anyone have the full list of all nominees? If so, please post.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  What are you smoking thinking that lightspeed should have been picked over ARS

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Donny
                                                                                                                                                                                                      As you wish...
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • May 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 13754
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by dig420
                                                                                                                                                                                                      We'll have to agree to disagree.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      That we will.


                                                                                                                                                                                                      I'm outta here for the night. I promised my girlfriend I'd stop working by 7pm. That gives me 9 minutes. Just enough time to pee and lock up.

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