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as stated above i know nothing on this subject, dont care to delve into it either. but there are many reasons why a designer might not get paid. go figure. but dont jump the gun and freak out without hearing all sides.Originally posted by foolio
Hey Why -- if PG is so good and all that can you tell us why he does not pay his designers?
I am sure the people he needs to pay would love to know the reason why they have not got paid.
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This is such a dead subject.. the only people that can get him out of this shit are his top affiliates and I have yet to see a SINGLE affiliate come to his defense. The only people that have, are his so called "friends".Originally posted by greentea
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Thats what I am trying to get... all sides. Since you are his friend and are sticking up for him (despite everything pointing to this guy is a liar and a thief) you would, or could find out what is going on - and perhaps get him to PAY people what he owes them (if he was truly a good, honest guy he would pay). But I think the fact that there are 3 (or is it 4) people saying the same thing, given the same BS story is odd --- don't that strike ya as odd.....Originally posted by Why
as stated above i know nothing on this subject, dont care to delve into it either. but there are many reasons why a designer might not get paid. go figure. but dont jump the gun and freak out without hearing all sides.
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You are so hopeless. I doubt you've ever been in the ccbill affiliate program set up.Originally posted by Why
iv sent to a number of programs what have sliding partnership payouts, and i dont recall ever seeing shit in the bonuses column.
i dunno about yall but i trust the people i do business with. if i find something askew i go to them and ask them about it. i get it fixed. i dont run around spouting... the sky is falling, bullshit.
keeping track of how many joins your getting and where they are coming from is called good business practice, its very easy to do BVF. i get many bonuses that arent shown in stats. paying attention to your traffic and who is sending it is pretty important in this area.
When your program pays bonuses, this is how it looks.Comment
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no but apparently you are. go piss in someones cherrios and i bet they get right on it when its time to pay you. simple logic.Originally posted by seven
Let me guess.. you are a newbie
but enough arguing with idiots. im sorry, i dont stare at my stats all day and dont know every detail of ccbills stats. i trust who i do business with, if i am owed, i am paid. its never been a problem. i have no need to post a bunch of ridiclous shit on message boards trying to fire up the posse. take three deep breaths. and calm down folks.
with that said, im going to go snowboarding.Comment
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point made, sorry i dont spend all day staring at stats admins.Originally posted by bopha
You are so hopeless. I doubt you've ever been in the ccbill affiliate program set up.
When your program pays bonuses, this is how it looks.
so it wasnt put in. why not a friendly reminder or heads up, BEFORE freaking out all over GFY?Comment
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Because the owner has said they "fixed the glitch" yet he is currently still syphoning money from webmasters who deserve to be paid for their sales.Comment
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Newbies should learn a lesson. PPS is the way to go. Partnership is an amateur model. Look at the exits of the biggest players in the biz, tell me how many partnership links you see.Sig too big
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Someone had to pay for that pussy to throw in AaronM's and others faces in Vegas. I am sure jeff and those who he blew $ on in vegas appreciate all the affiliates!Originally posted by bopha
Because the owner has said they "fixed the glitch" yet he is currently still syphoning money from webmasters who deserve to be paid for their sales.Sig too big
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"Someone had to pay for that pussy to throw in AaronM's and others faces in Vegas. I am sure jeff and those who he blew $ on in vegas appreciate all the affiliates!"
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"we also will be running our own stats for our affiliates."
that basically translates to
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AaronM ????Originally posted by Why
fuck you guys, i like perfection girls, and they are my friends.
shit happens, get over it. lots of other programs fuck you in your asses almost daily ...
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lolOriginally posted by DaddyzHome
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hahaha. i'm signing up right now.Originally posted by jennym
line #6 in our terms of service:
"We reserve the right to terminate the account of any webmaster who posts to message boards, emails or messages our other affiliates, or speaks negatively of us.
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Partnership, works pretty good for meOriginally posted by BradShaw
Newbies should learn a lesson. PPS is the way to go. Partnership is an amateur model. Look at the exits of the biggest players in the biz, tell me how many partnership links you see.
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Brad, why are you jumping on Jeff...I can't spell eitherOriginally posted by BradShaw
Someone had to pay for that pussy to throw in AaronM's and others faces in Vegas. I am sure jeff and those who he blew $ on in vegas appreciate all the affiliates!
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BTW, you me Jeff took care of AAronM and not me...Now I'm fuckin pisssssssssed
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Thanks for posting the letter.
Just to clear up a question, we are NOT leaving ccbill. We are going to add epoch as our primary processor into our cascading billing however when it launches, ccbill will be second and IBill third. We have had a planned launch date of Feb 1st our casading billing program for two months. And no.. we are not using MPA2, its our own program that was built by Fletcher that many of you have gone over.
We may change the rotation around in time of course and we do love the guys at ccbill, but there programming glitch has caused us some huge headaches needless to say so I want to be sure all is fixed before we resume sending all of our processing over there. They did jump on this issue and fix it right away and we are happy with the professionalism they have showed.
There will be no changes on anything until Feb. No linking codes will change at all once the changes take effect.
We have been all over this all day since returning to the office. It appears that a small group of affiliates were set at 1 do to some ccbill programming error (please see the ccbill post on this issue.) Only a very small number of affiliates (27 to be exact out of 900 plus) were effected. Also, it only effected ramdom affiliates that sign up between April 2003 and June 1st from what we can tell so far. However, only 27 were set at 1. Its been fixed and if those affiliate are owed rebills (if any) they will be paid in full by the end of the next week.
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Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
Thanks for posting the letter.
Just to clear up a question, we are NOT leaving ccbill. We are going to add epoch as our primary processor into our cascading billing however when it launches, ccbill will be second and IBill third. We have had a planned launch date of Feb 1st our casading billing program for two months. And no.. we are not using MPA2, its our own program that was built by Fletcher that many of you have gone over.
We may change the rotation around in time of course and we do love the guys at ccbill, but there programming glitch has caused us some huge headaches needless to say so I want to be sure all is fixed before we resume sending all of our processing over there. They did jump on this issue and fix it right away and we are happy with the professionalism they have showed.
There will be no changes on anything until Feb. No linking codes will change at all once the changes take effect.
We have been all over this all day since returning to the office. It appears that a small group of affiliates were set at 1 do to some ccbill programming error (please see the ccbill post on this issue.) Only a very small number of affiliates (27 to be exact out of 900 plus) were effected. Also, it only effected ramdom affiliates that sign up between April 2003 and June 1st from what we can tell so far. However, only 27 were set at 1. Its been fixed and if those affiliate are owed rebills (if any) they will be paid in full by the end of the next week.
Thanks.
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heh, just the 27 that happend to lookEver notice that pretty much everything added to the Constitution after the original was a mistake.Comment
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and what about your now well documented history of not paying talent and designers?Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
Thanks for posting the letter.
Just to clear up a question, we are NOT leaving ccbill. We are going to add epoch as our primary processor into our cascading billing however when it launches, ccbill will be second and IBill third. We have had a planned launch date of Feb 1st our casading billing program for two months. And no.. we are not using MPA2, its our own program that was built by Fletcher that many of you have gone over.
We may change the rotation around in time of course and we do love the guys at ccbill, but there programming glitch has caused us some huge headaches needless to say so I want to be sure all is fixed before we resume sending all of our processing over there. They did jump on this issue and fix it right away and we are happy with the professionalism they have showed.
There will be no changes on anything until Feb. No linking codes will change at all once the changes take effect.
We have been all over this all day since returning to the office. It appears that a small group of affiliates were set at 1 do to some ccbill programming error (please see the ccbill post on this issue.) Only a very small number of affiliates (27 to be exact out of 900 plus) were effected. Also, it only effected ramdom affiliates that sign up between April 2003 and June 1st from what we can tell so far. However, only 27 were set at 1. Its been fixed and if those affiliate are owed rebills (if any) they will be paid in full by the end of the next week.
Thanks.
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While I do promote some PPS (including you) and think they are okay, partnership sites have always been my major sponsors. I would never make a $30/su my main sponsor when I could make $50+/su over time with a good partnership proggy. And if you are saying every partner proggy is like PG you couldn't be anymore wrong besides 2 of the 'caught shaving' before PG were in fact PPS, remember? Newbies could learn a lesson from that too ya knowOriginally posted by BradShaw
Newbies should learn a lesson. PPS is the way to go. Partnership is an amateur model. Look at the exits of the biggest players in the biz, tell me how many partnership links you see.
(P.S. just a personal opinion no bashing to your proggy intended, I think your proggy's alright too)
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Originally posted by Hank_MrSkin
Brad, why are you jumping on Jeff...I can't spell either
Never even knew who the guy was, until he ran his mouth in some Brad Shaw threads over the past few months. Turn about is fair play.Sig too big
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Really? I specifically remember you saying you logged in and saw the error yourself. You sign up between April and June too?Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
Thanks for posting the letter.
Just to clear up a question, we are NOT leaving ccbill. We are going to add epoch as our primary processor into our cascading billing however when it launches, ccbill will be second and IBill third. We have had a planned launch date of Feb 1st our casading billing program for two months. And no.. we are not using MPA2, its our own program that was built by Fletcher that many of you have gone over.
We may change the rotation around in time of course and we do love the guys at ccbill, but there programming glitch has caused us some huge headaches needless to say so I want to be sure all is fixed before we resume sending all of our processing over there. They did jump on this issue and fix it right away and we are happy with the professionalism they have showed.
There will be no changes on anything until Feb. No linking codes will change at all once the changes take effect.
We have been all over this all day since returning to the office. It appears that a small group of affiliates were set at 1 do to some ccbill programming error (please see the ccbill post on this issue.) Only a very small number of affiliates (27 to be exact out of 900 plus) were effected. Also, it only effected ramdom affiliates that sign up between April 2003 and June 1st from what we can tell so far. However, only 27 were set at 1. Its been fixed and if those affiliate are owed rebills (if any) they will be paid in full by the end of the next week.
Thanks.
Post your list of 27 since you are so confident. Let's see if anyone off the list had the same problem.
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but weren't people signing up for the program the other night just to see what was going on, and they were getting the 1 rebill thing? On a new account? If so, that doesn't mesh with his statement above.Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
We have been all over this all day since returning to the office. It appears that a small group of affiliates were set at 1 do to some ccbill programming error (please see the ccbill post on this issue.) Only a very small number of affiliates (27 to be exact out of 900 plus) were effected. Also, it only effected ramdom affiliates that sign up between April 2003 and June 1st from what we can tell so far. However, only 27 were set at 1. Its been fixed and if those affiliate are owed rebills (if any) they will be paid in full by the end of the next week.
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It means the same as all hist other statement, he is in fact full of shit.Originally posted by Holly
Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but weren't people signing up for the program the other night just to see what was going on, and they were getting the 1 rebill thing? On a new account? If so, that doesn't mesh with his statement above.
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I got it also.Originally posted by Peaches
I sure hope that letter's not a cut and paste from the real thing - I'd hate to think someone actually sent that out with all those typos.
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that's what it looked like...Originally posted by Holly
Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but weren't people signing up for the program the other night just to see what was going on, and they were getting the 1 rebill thing? On a new account? If so, that doesn't mesh with his statement above.we'll miss you our friend. RIPComment
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must agree very unprofessional, tells me something about them.Originally posted by The Hammer
I got that same letter and I must say I found it highly unprofessional. The explanation of the supposed snaffu with ccBill was OK, but the part where he threatened me if I say anything against them on the boards was ridiculous. And to send that warning/threat out to every one of their affiliates at the same time that you are attempting to apolgize/explain a problem? Jesus.Epic CashEpic Cash works for me
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I need to run my mouth in a few more BS threads so you will remember me I guessOriginally posted by BradShaw
Never even knew who the guy was, until he ran his mouth in some Brad Shaw threads over the past few months. Turn about is fair play.
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"shit happens"Originally posted by Why
fuck you guys, i like perfection girls, and they are my friends.
shit happens, get over it. lots of other programs fuck you in your asses almost daily, at least these guys take the time to explain stuff to thier affiliates, instead of just ignoring them all. which i seem to recall a number of programs doing when at a loss of words as of late.
he is offering to make it right and you asshats have to knock him, shit got fucked up, it was an error, he is offering to pay you up in full and you spit in his eye.
now who are the real class acts here? a bunch of mainly nameless retards on gfy with nothing to show for themselfs in this biz? or knocking a man who is trying to fix a problem that really isnt his fault to begin with and offering to make it right by any means necessary.
most of the people in here doing the bashing are nameless fucktards just talking shit about something they dont know shit about aside from what they hear on GFY which for the most part is heresay anyways. and just jumping on the bandwagon to talk shit about someone to try and fit it.
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you said it nicer than I would of.Originally posted by Hank_MrSkin
Partnership, works pretty good for me
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you are correct.Originally posted by Holly
Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but weren't people signing up for the program the other night just to see what was going on, and they were getting the 1 rebill thing? On a new account? If so, that doesn't mesh with his statement above.
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Originally posted by bopha
"we also will be running our own stats for our affiliates."
That's comforting.
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CCBill must feel real good about bailing them out about now.Comment
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Originally posted by pamphage
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Facts for Why, Jeff and everyone else.
According to CCBill's explanation, the supposed glitch only affected accounts set to 0. PerfectionCash was set to 1. So therefore, the glitch did not affect PerfectionCash.
Jeff is claiming there's another glitch that only affected a limited amount of webmasters within a given period. This information has not been supported by anyone from CCBill.
Jeff claims only 27 webmasters who signed up between April and June were affected. However, many webmasters signed up when the threads started and saw their accounts set to one rebill as well. And if I were to compile a list of webmasters who saw it on their own accounts across the different forums, it would definetly surpass 27 webmasters.
Even if all this can be attributed to a CCBill glitch, Jeff is still not paying out bonuses as he claims to do. This has nothing to do with the glitch.
CCBill has never backed Jeff or PerfectionCash by name. CCBill has also been strangely silent when faced with questions concerning this glitch.
The amount of affiliates Jeff has constantly changes. Back in May, he claimed to have nearly 2000 affiliates. Earlier this week, he claimed 1200. Now he's claiming 900.
Shaving aside, Jeff has been proving time and again to be a scumbag. He has neglected to pay several designers for work. Over the course of several months, he has given them all the same lame excuse about wire problems. We've seen at least one model who has also heard the same excuse. Jeff, if your bank has so many problems with wires, perhaps you should switch banks or choose a different payment method.
Also, there's accusation of pedophilia and the underage, non-nude teen sites he runs and is proud of.
Let's not forget when he added someone's site to his program and then replaced to site with a full page ad to Brittany Blu (one of his sites).
Jeff always has been and always will be a lying, cheating scumbag. Be forewarned. If you want to send your traffic to him, expect to be fucked unless you can help him fuck over others.
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thread killerOriginally posted by psyko514
Facts for Why, Jeff and everyone else.
According to CCBill's explanation, the supposed glitch only affected accounts set to 0. PerfectionCash was set to 1. So therefore, the glitch did not affect PerfectionCash.
Jeff is claiming there's another glitch that only affected a limited amount of webmasters within a given period. This information has not been supported by anyone from CCBill.
Jeff claims only 27 webmasters who signed up between April and June were affected. However, many webmasters signed up when the threads started and saw their accounts set to one rebill as well. And if I were to compile a list of webmasters who saw it on their own accounts across the different forums, it would definetly surpass 27 webmasters.
Even if all this can be attributed to a CCBill glitch, Jeff is still not paying out bonuses as he claims to do. This has nothing to do with the glitch.
CCBill has never backed Jeff or PerfectionCash by name. CCBill has also been strangely silent when faced with questions concerning this glitch.
The amount of affiliates Jeff has constantly changes. Back in May, he claimed to have nearly 2000 affiliates. Earlier this week, he claimed 1200. Now he's claiming 900.
Shaving aside, Jeff has been proving time and again to be a scumbag. He has neglected to pay several designers for work. Over the course of several months, he has given them all the same lame excuse about wire problems. We've seen at least one model who has also heard the same excuse. Jeff, if your bank has so many problems with wires, perhaps you should switch banks or choose a different payment method.
Also, there's accusation of pedophilia and the underage, non-nude teen sites he runs and is proud of.
Let's not forget when he added someone's site to his program and then replaced to site with a full page ad to Brittany Blu (one of his sites).
Jeff always has been and always will be a lying, cheating scumbag. Be forewarned. If you want to send your traffic to him, expect to be fucked unless you can help him fuck over others.
i can't believe this guy, now he'll try to put up propiertary stats! big balls or compulsive liar
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I thought you couldnt have epoch and ibill? Didnt epoch said you couldnt have ibill if you wanted to be with them, if memory serves me right.Comment
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Oh shut your fucking pie hole already.Originally posted by Why
every program will cancel your account if you go around bashing them on boards. sure it covers squealing, but it covers a whole lot more then that. every program under the sun has a clause saying they can cancel you for any reason at any time. its the same thing. they are just spelling it out abit more.every click counts...Comment
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I don't think one model is any less immune when cheating is concerned. A PPS program can shave/cheat just as easy as a Partnership model. It's equally horrible and disconcerting regardless of the model.Originally posted by BradShaw
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How about not paying bonuses that he has listed on his site but CCBill doesn't show?Originally posted by Why
who is to say this error was purposeful? get off your horse, im sure fucked up shit has happened on your boat and was quickly and quietly swept under the rug.
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I am a CCBill affiliate and webmaster. I never received an email and never read anything about this CCBill change to show number of rebills before it happened.
Now, the change comes, and a few webmasters are caught with their hand in the cookie jar. Then CCBill issue this 'glitch' thing. What ? Are they expecting us to believe that NONE of the CCBill webmasters were using this shaving option. That they were ALL 100 PER CENT HONEST ?!?!?!?
Come On. People cheated.. So what ? Virtually every independant program is doing it. The CCBill guys have been caught, they'll pay the price. What is more disgusting is the absolute ARSE SHAFTING CCBILL HAS JUST GIVEN ALL IT'S AFFILIATES.
Upto now I have been a great supporter of CCBill, but this is allegedly outright lying to customers, allegedly fraudulant activity. It's disgusting.In 1904, Charles Newman-Berry connected two abacus's together using specially enhanced GrapeVine thus inventing the first Internet connection.
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Originally posted by pamphage
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Originally posted by psyko514
Facts for Why, Jeff and everyone else.
According to CCBill's explanation, the supposed glitch only affected accounts set to 0. PerfectionCash was set to 1. So therefore, the glitch did not affect PerfectionCash.
Jeff is claiming there's another glitch that only affected a limited amount of webmasters within a given period. This information has not been supported by anyone from CCBill.
Jeff claims only 27 webmasters who signed up between April and June were affected. However, many webmasters signed up when the threads started and saw their accounts set to one rebill as well. And if I were to compile a list of webmasters who saw it on their own accounts across the different forums, it would definetly surpass 27 webmasters.
Even if all this can be attributed to a CCBill glitch, Jeff is still not paying out bonuses as he claims to do. This has nothing to do with the glitch.
CCBill has never backed Jeff or PerfectionCash by name. CCBill has also been strangely silent when faced with questions concerning this glitch.
The amount of affiliates Jeff has constantly changes. Back in May, he claimed to have nearly 2000 affiliates. Earlier this week, he claimed 1200. Now he's claiming 900.
Shaving aside, Jeff has been proving time and again to be a scumbag. He has neglected to pay several designers for work. Over the course of several months, he has given them all the same lame excuse about wire problems. We've seen at least one model who has also heard the same excuse. Jeff, if your bank has so many problems with wires, perhaps you should switch banks or choose a different payment method.
Also, there's accusation of pedophilia and the underage, non-nude teen sites he runs and is proud of.
Let's not forget when he added someone's site to his program and then replaced to site with a full page ad to Brittany Blu (one of his sites).
Jeff always has been and always will be a lying, cheating scumbag. Be forewarned. If you want to send your traffic to him, expect to be fucked unless you can help him fuck over others.
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