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What would make you promote a REVSHARE program?

01-06-2004, 02:11 PM

The following factors I have seen from other threads and comments --

1) Fresh niche / unsaturated content

2) Free Hosted Galleries and associated support tools

3) MPA2 affiliate software system

4) Free promotions tools -- search engine submissions/page tools

5) Adult promotion tools -- TGP/LL support

6) Webmaster assistance -- checklists

7) 60% to 70% Webmaster share

What other elements would you like to see for you to sign up for a revshare program?

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01-06-2004, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by $5 submissions
The following factors I have seen from other threads and comments --

1) Fresh niche / unsaturated content

2) Free Hosted Galleries and associated support tools

3) MPA2 affiliate software system

4) Free promotions tools -- search engine submissions/page tools

5) Adult promotion tools -- TGP/LL support

6) Webmaster assistance -- checklists

7) 60% to 70% Webmaster share

What other elements would you like to see for you to sign up for a revshare program?

yup, 1-7 please

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01-06-2004, 02:14 PM

Originally posted by $5 submissions
1) Fresh niche / unsaturated content

Honestly, this is the only factor that matters in todays market
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01-06-2004, 02:14 PM

Sites that even I would spend money at. If I'd throw down the CC number, then I'd be confident that other people would stick with it for long enough to make revshare worth my while.
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01-06-2004, 02:14 PM

FUCKLOAD OF FREE QUALITY CONTENT!
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01-06-2004, 02:16 PM

Originally posted by QualityMpegs

yup, 1-7 please

I was hoping for additions to the list.

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01-06-2004, 02:17 PM

quality content that rebills really makes a revshare worthwile to me
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01-06-2004, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by JSA Matt

Honestly, this is the only factor that matters in todays market

Problem with this is it's easy to rip off.

Let's take Goth for example. Goth is one hell of a lucrative niche. And there's only 1 or 2 sites (Amelia G's SpookyCash being at the forefront) that does justice to this niche. Now there's some big programs with their own "goth" like sites and they're probably doing better since they pay PPS.

My question is, how to avoid this? Can it?

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01-06-2004, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by Oracle Porn
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1 Thousand pics, would that be enough?

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01-06-2004, 02:22 PM

Originally posted by $5 submissions

Problem with this is it's easy to rip off.

Let's take Goth for example. Goth is one hell of a lucrative niche. And there's only 1 or 2 sites (Amelia G's SpookyCash being at the forefront) that does justice to this niche. Now there's some big programs with their own "goth" like sites and they're probably doing better since they pay PPS.

My question is, how to avoid this? Can it?

Its not exactly the niche, its the EXCLUSIVE CONTENT that is the KEY.
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01-06-2004, 02:22 PM

Downloadable movie clips would be great. I build picture and movie sites

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01-06-2004, 02:23 PM

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1 Thousand pics, would that be enough?

Probebly not...
How many sets?
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01-06-2004, 02:23 PM

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Its not exactly the niche, its the EXCLUSIVE CONTENT that is the KEY.

Thanks for the feedback. It will definitely be exclusive.

Here's some other factors but they pertain to retention rather than recruitment:

1) Constant Updates

2) High level of user interactivity and participation

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01-06-2004, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by JSA Matt

Honestly, this is the only factor that matters in todays market

sometimes i think that too. but why the heck does tawnee still convert?

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01-06-2004, 02:25 PM

If you follow my link for an account and then check out our promo section you will soon see that there is more exclusive content in there then almost any other sponosrs. Lots of downloadable clips and pictures, hosted galleries, banners, buttons.

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01-06-2004, 02:26 PM

Originally posted by $5 submissions

Thanks for the feedback. It will definitely be exclusive.

Here's some other factors but they pertain to retention rather than recruitment:

1) Constant Updates

2) High level of user interactivity and participation

Your main focus should be exclusive content, next should be member retention. Just my (looks like you already have those 2 covered)
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01-06-2004, 02:28 PM

If you're going to thread jack pls contribute to the thread by outlining the values of these elements and add new elements.

Thanks!

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01-06-2004, 02:29 PM

1. Quality content
2. Updated on a regular basis
3. Good proccessor

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01-06-2004, 02:30 PM

I paid off my car back in 2001 with that Lightspeed set featuring chicks playing spin the bottle. LS converts well.

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sometimes i think that too. but why the heck does tawnee still convert?

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01-06-2004, 02:31 PM

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Probebly not...
How many sets?

How many would be good?

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01-06-2004, 02:32 PM

no traffic leak, most niche websites would do revsharing trough ccbill or so and would have another processor on the page that you don't get paid for .... if they have mpa2 i would like to have access to all my stats from the processors as well.

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01-06-2004, 02:32 PM

I want a revshare that knows how to sale, I dont mind filtering and even pre-saling to a point but 90% of the sites out there is only making money because of the sheer amount of traffic that is thrown at it. Marketing. Fuck all the other bullshit, I hate hosted galleries, and all that bullshit, I like to send my traffic to someone who can sell, knows what the surfer wants and gves it to them and retains. If anyone out there thinks they have that site send me a login and pass to the members area and and ill check it out. and push all the traffic I can at you. I'm serrious, contact me if you have a site like this. [email protected] If you have a great site and am looking for hardworking webmasters who will work there ass of to make you money email me.

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01-06-2004, 02:32 PM

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How many would be good?

30 per site
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01-06-2004, 02:32 PM

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I paid off my car back in 2001 with that Lightspeed set featuring chicks playing spin the bottle. LS converts well.

I paid off 2 cars with BlacksOnBlondes... take notes from those guys
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01-06-2004, 02:33 PM

I say worry about retention before even sweating the webmaster side of it.

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01-06-2004, 02:34 PM

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I paid off my car back in 2001 with that Lightspeed set featuring chicks playing spin the bottle. LS converts well.

thats why for me i think it boils down to exceptional models...not just exceptoinal content (which could be shot well with average good looking chicks.)

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01-06-2004, 02:36 PM

Originally posted by ^R3K^
I say worry about retention before even sweating the webmaster side of it.

Good advise. Would you advise running this through AVS's first to see if people sign up then make adjustments then run as my own program without affiliates until we fine tune retention?

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01-06-2004, 02:41 PM

well to add to your thread.

i would say watch retention, what kind of sites do they offer? do those sites keep people around?

What do they have in their backend? Do those sort of feeds/videos/pictures etc, do they keep people around?

The type of content offered can play a large role in how long someone will stick around. Exclusive content of course, and lots of video.

investigate on these points before signing up with any revshare program.

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01-06-2004, 02:52 PM

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3) MPA2 affiliate software system

man, believe me, don't let anybody know you use MPA2 unless you're giving access to processor stats too.

and for your question: good niche, exclusive content, lotsa material, a design that doesn't looks like made for 10 dollars. In short: something that screams you put so muh in it you won't run away next week. That's basically it.

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01-06-2004, 03:13 PM

Okay, that can be done.

Any other suggestions?

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01-06-2004, 03:14 PM

Pls expand re MPA2. Many new programs are using them and I've checked their functions and scalability...very very tight!

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man, believe me, don't let anybody know you use MPA2 unless you're giving access to processor stats too.

and for your question: good niche, exclusive content, lotsa material, a design that doesn't looks like made for 10 dollars. In short: something that screams you put so muh in it you won't run away next week. That's basically it.

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01-06-2004, 03:34 PM

I would promote it
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01-06-2004, 03:35 PM

In today's market, you are looking at getting signups from users that have joined many sites previously -
Hence thus:
A high % join using a false email address (They are pissed off with spam after leaving) And those that do this, most, cancel their rebilling BEFORE seeing your site.

This is fact and this is due to all the pps programmes - Soley, duely and only.

These surfers have been fucked around by a fucked-up money grabbing-profit-=-everything-and-we-pay=more=pps=than=you=do-and-fuck-the-consumer.

And a new promo comes out saying we are paying X per sign up and you fucking wippits lap it up!

However good a site, how ever often you update - Has to contend with this. - The genuine surfer with a willing credit card is still being fucked today -

What can you do? Can rebill still offer a viable alternitive?

Yes - it does - And yes - It will be the only choice as soon as visa stop penalizing every webmaster for the shit of a few.

Don't join a site you think may be worth promoting in this way - Demand a free membership - Then, if you are certain the site is good - Then you know you will make the cash over time - And certainly FAR more tha pps.

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01-06-2004, 03:39 PM

Thanks, Dyker. Insightful post re the power of quality and the consumer mentality. Basically this tells me that a good revshare program must SOOTHE the consumer's fears as well.

No popups

No exit chains

Definitely no Cross Sells

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In today's market, you are looking at getting signups from users that have joined many sites previously -
Hence thus:
A high % join using a false email address (They are pissed off with spam after leaving) And those that do this, most, cancel their rebilling BEFORE seeing your site.

This is fact and this is due to all the pps programmes - Soley, duely and only.

These surfers have been fucked around by a fucked-up money grabbing-profit-=-everything-and-we-pay=more=pps=than=you=do-and-fuck-the-consumer.

And a new promo comes out saying we are paying X per sign up and you fucking wippits lap it up!

However good a site, how ever often you update - Has to contend with this. - The genuine surfer with a willing credit card is still being fucked today -

What can you do? Can rebill still offer a viable alternitive?

Yes - it does - And yes - It will be the only choice as soon as visa stop penalizing every webmaster for the shit of a few.

Don't join a site you think may be worth promoting in this way - Demand a free membership - Then, if you are certain the site is good - Then you know you will make the cash over time - And certainly FAR more tha pps.

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01-06-2004, 03:54 PM

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Thanks, Dyker. Insightful post re the power of quality and the consumer mentality. Basically this tells me that a good revshare program must SOOTHE the consumer's fears as well.

No popups

No exit chains

Definitely no Cross Sells

Cross sells is not always a bad idea -
As most of my sites are interconnected in nich (leg-foot-upskirt-panty etc - )
I cross sell to a single girl site which covers all those niches - (Another of my sites, I should add).

This is an unchecked cross sell - And so far, we have not had one cb via this -

(Having said that, the reason this works for us is quite simple - The site I cross sell to is www.kirstyblue.com - Who happens to be my wife! - This site is quite unique in many ways - 1) my wife is a non nude model who teases well - 2) we add regular content of "friends" galleries who provide the nudity.
3) As each request comes in for a pic/video set, we do it and upload it - Requests are often dealt with the same day-always within 3 days -
I do not know a better way to satisfy a member without actually sending round a babe for personal service!

So in this way, cross sells work.

Sending from one plug in site to another - I am sure that causes serious problems.

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01-06-2004, 04:10 PM

Originally posted by $5 submissions

What other elements would you like to see for you to sign up for a revshare program?

1. Fresh / unsaturated content
2. Free Hosted Galleries and associated support tools
3. 60% to 70% Webmaster share. Not only are payouts smaller, but most partnerships only want to share 50%.
4. Smart tracking. I want to promote from various sources, and know which of them is converting. Preferably an identifier, but referrer url's are ok too.
5. Can send to join form, rather than force them through your tour.
6. No popups.
7. No traffic leaks.
8. Multiple processors. CCBill is good, but I convert better with other processors.
9. Multiple tours.

If you need to have popups or traffic leaks on your main site, then you need a seperate tour for affiliates. A revshare program has no excuse for either of these.

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01-06-2004, 04:13 PM

Originally posted by Brujah

1. Fresh / unsaturated content
2. Free Hosted Galleries and associated support tools
3. 60% to 70% Webmaster share. Not only are payouts smaller, but most partnerships only want to share 50%.
4. Smart tracking. I want to promote from various sources, and know which of them is converting. Preferably an identifier, but referrer url's are ok too.
5. Can send to join form, rather than force them through your tour.
6. No popups.
7. No traffic leaks.
8. Multiple processors. CCBill is good, but I convert better with other processors.
9. Multiple tours.

If you need to have popups or traffic leaks on your main site, then you need a seperate tour for affiliates. A revshare program has no excuse for either of these.

awesome. what he said.

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01-06-2004, 04:17 PM

Thanks, Brujah! Very insightful post!

Originally posted by Brujah

1. Fresh / unsaturated content
2. Free Hosted Galleries and associated support tools
3. 60% to 70% Webmaster share. Not only are payouts smaller, but most partnerships only want to share 50%.
4. Smart tracking. I want to promote from various sources, and know which of them is converting. Preferably an identifier, but referrer url's are ok too.
5. Can send to join form, rather than force them through your tour.
6. No popups.
7. No traffic leaks.
8. Multiple processors. CCBill is good, but I convert better with other processors.
9. Multiple tours.

If you need to have popups or traffic leaks on your main site, then you need a seperate tour for affiliates. A revshare program has no excuse for either of these.

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01-06-2004, 04:23 PM

When we opened our first sites about 4 years ago, we had 3 or maybe 4 cam girls sites listed inside for a cross sell.. We mad nothing.!!! The we removed all but one, and all of a sudden, boom We get a check for like 300$. we were so happy...

I think that cross sells are ok, but you need to limit it. If you give to much choice, the person gets dizy and just does not buy anything...

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01-06-2004, 04:26 PM

Hey Harlot cash...

On this page of your wifes site: http://www.kirstyblue.com/main.htm

the title of the page is missing ... It will help to have it there for SE.

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01-06-2004, 04:33 PM

Good revshare program is in one word - QUALITY
Quality means simply to provide members with content they wanted and not something another.
And I 100% agree with ^R3K^ and Brujah

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01-06-2004, 04:36 PM

Do all of the above so that it retains like a mother fucker and makes $50 a sale on average. Then pay me $35 PPS and keep the rest as you will have earned it.
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01-06-2004, 04:46 PM

nevermind.... skepticism doesn't really help.

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01-06-2004, 04:48 PM

Originally posted by pornguy
Hey Harlot cash...

On this page of your wifes site: http://www.kirstyblue.com/main.htm

the title of the page is missing ... It will help to have it there for SE.

It's there -
The index page you looked at has several meeta tags - Like all our sites, we have index pages set up for different search engines.
Kirstyblue has several "front" pages -

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01-06-2004, 05:00 PM

Good stats pages so I can see what is working or not.

No shaving, and good conversions into active recurring from trials.

I can't stress how important good stats like hit tracking or hit ID's would help me make a choice.

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01-06-2004, 05:27 PM

Basically a shit load of content, and fresh unused content at that as well. Plus a program that actually keeps its content fresh instead of updating it every 3-6 months.
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01-06-2004, 06:42 PM

Great thread since there's TONS of revshare programs out there and I highly doubt that all of them are meeting with the same level of success. It is great that there is a discussion about what makes affiliates want to join one as opposed to jumping straight to a pay per signup sponsor.
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01-07-2004, 11:23 PM

Why start another revshare program? Most don't get too many affiliates since affiliates would rather risk the shave but get CASH UPFRONT from PPS progs than wait. Its all about delayed gratification...most peeps don't believe in it UNLESS your content is brand new/unique (which PPS will quickly rip off).

Besides Revshare used to have a reputation for being "shave proof"...the whole Perfectiongirls situation CHANGED THAT.

Good luck revsharers.

My advise is start a PPS program even if its cheap.

cat cash* | tr -d '\r' | tr -s '/n' > money
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#49

02-20-2004, 05:36 PM

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#50

02-20-2004, 07:02 PM

1. consoles are fine as long as I get credit for at least 50% of the links on them
2. no trials
3. able to send to the join page
4. choice of multiple tours
5. unique identifiers
6. good supply of promotional materials

Those are the main thing. Unique content is a plus, freehosted galleries an even bigger plus. If you have multiple tours, they should all look different instead of just the same tour with a different color scheme.

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