New pitch: As an affiliate, would you choose ccBill or Verotel ?

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  • Adult Site Traffic
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2003
    • 5093

    #1

    New pitch: As an affiliate, would you choose ccBill or Verotel ?

    Given the choice upon signing up to promote a program as an affiliate, would you choose a ccBill payment option or choose to get paid through Verotel ?

    Why ?
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  • Mr. Mojo Risin
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2003
    • 1886

    #2
    verotel.. no startup costs

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    • JSA Matt
      So Fucking Banned
      • Aug 2003
      • 5464

      #3
      Originally posted by Mr. Mojo Risin
      verotel.. no startup costs
      as an AFFILIATE, I would choose ccbill. It has been around long enough to have gained my trust. I've never even used Verotel before..

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      • pradaboy
        sell me your banners
        • Dec 2003
        • 12931

        #4
        ccbill but that's coz I never used verotel
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        • pornanza
          Confirmed User
          • Jul 2003
          • 238

          #5
          ccbill without a doubt

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          • Kevin2
            Confirmed User
            • May 2003
            • 1429

            #6
            I use both and Verotel converts better.

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            • Paparazzi
              Confirmed User
              • Mar 2002
              • 3488

              #7
              have more trust in ccbill... and I like that you can merge accounts also, not sure about if you can do that with verotel

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              • ZoiNk
                Confirmed User
                • Feb 2002
                • 2370

                #8
                CCbill, I don't trust verotel. I trust CCbill to be here in a year. Verotel I give 6 months.
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                • Paparazzi
                  Confirmed User
                  • Mar 2002
                  • 3488

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Kevin2
                  I use both and Verotel converts better.
                  yeah, but you might end up with more cb

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                  • JulieJolie
                    Registered User
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 37

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Paparazzi
                    yeah, but you might end up with more cb
                    I've made more money with my verotel affilates than the ccbill ones and to date not one charge back (knock on wood!)
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                    • arial
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 4012

                      #11
                      ccBill cause I've never used Verotel.

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                      • salo18
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 859

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Kevin2
                        I use both and Verotel converts better.
                        .

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                        • XxXotic
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                          • Jun 2002
                          • 8500

                          #13
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                          • faxxaff
                            Confirmed User
                            • Dec 2002
                            • 2134

                            #14
                            verotel sites convert much better. Might be because they have more billing options. The affiliate interface and nonexstant customerservice of verotel really sucks, ccbill is much better for this.
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                            • bdld
                              $100,000
                              • Dec 2001
                              • 11452

                              #15
                              verotel b/c i've never used ccbill

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                              • spooky181
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 2951

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Paparazzi
                                yeah, but you might end up with more cb
                                Chargebacks are not a problem. My sales with Verotel compared to scrubbill are truckloads better. If you want to make considerably less money as an affiliate then stick with ccbill..

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                                • SoundMan
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Nov 2003
                                  • 3471

                                  #17
                                  ibill

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                                  • JulieJolie
                                    Registered User
                                    • Mar 2003
                                    • 37

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Paparazzi
                                    have more trust in ccbill... and I like that you can merge accounts also, not sure about if you can do that with verotel
                                    Yes you can merge them , when signing up click "I'm already a reseller"
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                                    • Adult Site Traffic
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Mar 2003
                                      • 5093

                                      #19
                                      Interesting information.

                                      I am really appreciating all of your feedback. Thank you.

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                                      • advrice
                                        Registered User
                                        • Dec 2002
                                        • 23

                                        #20
                                        To all people out here voting for CCBill without ever trying Verotel. Why don't you set up an account and give it a try... can always come in handy as back up...

                                        Check the link below!
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                                        • xxxoutsourcing
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Oct 2003
                                          • 3888

                                          #21
                                          We use verotel as our back up and on some sites the main processor they are pretty good.

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                                          • smproduction
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jan 2003
                                            • 508

                                            #22
                                            CCBill and Verotel??? No doubts CCBill, they are the best around also for affiliates.
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                                            • lock
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jul 2003
                                              • 5065

                                              #23
                                              Verotel but have ccbill as a secondary as the future of internet billing is always uncertain.best not put all eggs in one basket
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                                              • flashfire
                                                ICQ 1 6 7 8 5 3 4 9 2
                                                • Feb 2003
                                                • 13098

                                                #24
                                                CCbill so I could shave your asses bald...just kidding Verotel

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                                                • [Brian]
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Mar 2001
                                                  • 1523

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by XxXotic
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                                                  • liquidmoe
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Mar 2002
                                                    • 4994

                                                    #26
                                                    I'd say CCBill even with the shaving at least they publicly display the information, so a quick check and you know who's on the up and up and who's not. Sponsors who decide to shave and dont know this information will eventually get revealled and have their programs go through a shit storm as a result, so if anything it may actually help to uncover a few more shavers, rather than keep them hidden.

                                                    Take Luck!

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                                                    • jawanda
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                      • 6040

                                                      #27
                                                      Cracks me up to hear so many people saying "I give Verotel 6 months" and shit like that.

                                                      They are a rock solid company, and worst case scenario, they end up being forced to comply with the $750 rule. I think they have enough big clients to survive it.


                                                      People keep saying "enjoy your great conversions while they last". But how about "Enjoy your great conversions, and when the shit hits the fan you'll have to pay $750, but you'll still get great conversions". It won't be the end of the world for Verotel.



                                                      -P

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                                                      • arial
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Jul 2002
                                                        • 4012

                                                        #28
                                                        Neck and neck right now (18-18) lets see how it turns out.

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                                                        • Carrie
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Apr 2002
                                                          • 3162

                                                          #29
                                                          Verotel's interface sucks balls, CCBill's is slow but rocks (especially with the new info).

                                                          OTOH, CCBill's scrubbing puts Brillo to shame, so you get less signups.

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                                                          • OneHungLo
                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                            • May 2001
                                                            • 40902

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Mr. Mojo Risin
                                                            verotel.. no startup costs
                                                            and we all know what happened to all those other processors that didn't have those 750.00 visa fee's

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                                                            • Mr. Mojo Risin
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                              • 1886

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by OneHungLo


                                                              and we all know what happened to all those other processors that didn't have those 750.00 visa fee's
                                                              so can't they just charge merchants the $750 then if that ever happens?

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                                                              • Mr. Mojo Risin
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Jul 2003
                                                                • 1886

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by jawanda
                                                                Cracks me up to hear so many people saying "I give Verotel 6 months" and shit like that.

                                                                They are a rock solid company, and worst case scenario, they end up being forced to comply with the $750 rule. I think they have enough big clients to survive it.


                                                                People keep saying "enjoy your great conversions while they last". But how about "Enjoy your great conversions, and when the shit hits the fan you'll have to pay $750, but you'll still get great conversions". It won't be the end of the world for Verotel.



                                                                -P
                                                                exactly

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                                                                • SENSEX
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                                  • 1159

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Verotel does not scrub nearly as hard as CCbill, and yet CB's are extremely low. If you choose not to use them because you think they wont be around in 6/mo then just milk it for the next six months. I think they will be around for a while since they do not deal with any U.S. banks whatsover. But these days...who knows.

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                                                                  • gxer
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Dec 2002
                                                                    • 846

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Verotel
                                                                    cause Verotel converts MUCH better.

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                                                                    • polish_aristocrat
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Jul 2002
                                                                      • 40377

                                                                      #35
                                                                      PSW billing also wasn't scrubbing hard.
                                                                      I don't use ICQ anymore.

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