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  • smproduction
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2003
    • 508
    #51
    Originally posted by DrGuile
    I have news for you, wether you listen to Justin Timberlake or Eminem or Alicia Keys, you are listening to the same music:
    Commercial Pop.
    It is true
    And btw Alicia Keys rocks
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      • Rich
        So Fucking Banned
        • Jan 2003
        • 11486
        #52
        Originally posted by rooster
        black people call this 'sampling'

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          • Tytan
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Sep 2003
            • 1391
            #53
            yeah its called a sample


            examples

            Bowie & Jagger - Under Pressure

            Vanilla Ice - Ice Ice Baby


            AeroSmith - Dream On

            Eminem - Sing For The Moment

            etc
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              • nap
                Confirmed User
                • Dec 2002
                • 2765
                #54
                there are very few artists in any genre in this day and age that actually come up with their own lyrics. if they are not sampling music then the music is being written by an someone else. for example tony estes graduated from my h.s. a few years before i was there and she is RICH now by writing songs for artists, the most famous being whitney houston. tony's album is ok but she is making a killing off of writing lyrics for "superstars." nothing new.

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                  • camsource
                    Registered User
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 233
                    #55
                    same shit on fast forward

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                      • tony299
                        lurker
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 57021
                        #56
                        Thats why music sharing is so big because people dont want to pay $20 for crap but the problem is music has become a visual medium. Which it was never intended to be. I watch with my wife, a cable channel that vh1 has and its all music from the 60's to 80's. Since there where no music videos in the 70's alot of it is live performances, the muscianship was so much higher but now a days most of them would never get a record deal.Ugly mother fuckers making great music. lol We watched BTO they kicked ass but today 4 fat guys with beards who look like truck drivers would never get a record deal.

                        Also once apon a time it was called stealing not sampling, George Harrison got sued and lost because My Sweet Lord sounded to close to "He's So fine". As far as Black music the days of Stevie Wonder and Prince are over lol , hiphop and rap killed musicianship, I would say the only current black group who might turn that around is Outkast.

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                          • uptheyingyang
                            Confirmed User
                            • May 2003
                            • 376
                            #57
                            well, if you played a musical instrument (such as piano) and you watch her at a steinway, you will know she is not a fraud.

                            although her voice is not that remarkable, her musical ability is.

                            same with mariah carey, if you read music just take a look at some of the charts she writes.

                            or indie arie.

                            or jewel.

                            lots of pretty faces out there, but some of them do actually have talent, whether you like what they do or not.

                            compare these gals with the "manufactured" talent of britney spears and madonna, and there is no comparison.

                            the general populace cannot spot real talent, real talent stands the test of time. like carole king, or paul simon, or james taylor, or david sandborn, or chic corea, etc.
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                              • Pornwolf
                                Drunk and Unruly
                                • Jan 2002
                                • 22712
                                #58
                                Artists take riffs and melodies from other songs they like. Rock artists do it just as much as R&B folks do. Rappers do it more than anyone else obviously but that's what the music has always been based on. Rap was created from people rapping over other artists songs at parties so we can't be too surprised at what it is now.


                                If you want to believe in Alicia Keys again I suggest you listen to the tracks after "You Don't Know My Name." She totally produced and wrote both "If I Can't Have You" and "Diary" (which is the next single). The only other R&B artist that produces as much as Alicia is Tweet so you have to give her some cradit since there's so few artists that can do that. She didn't produce You Don't Know My Name so don't blame her for that.

                                Just FYI, very few rock and Jazz artists produce their own songs as well. Even Norah Jones, for as many grammies as she won, didn't really produce her own songs.
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                                  • Deb
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Feb 2002
                                    • 1237
                                    #59
                                    Originally posted by beemk
                                    remember when coolio won an award for gangsters paradise and he jacked it from stevie wonder?
                                    And then Coolio got pissed when Weird Al did a parody of the song.

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                                      • The Truth Hurts
                                        Zph7YXfjMhg
                                        • Nov 2002
                                        • 15792
                                        #60
                                        Originally posted by Deb


                                        And then Coolio got pissed when Weird Al did a parody of the song.
                                        and then weird al sent coolio a fat check, and coolio shut the fuck up.

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                                          • Deb
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Feb 2002
                                            • 1237
                                            #61
                                            Originally posted by uptheyingyang
                                            well, if you played a musical instrument (such as piano) and you watch her at a steinway, you will know she is not a fraud.

                                            although her voice is not that remarkable, her musical ability is.
                                            Exactly. She was trained at the Juilliard School from what I've read about her.

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                                              • 69pornlinks
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Mar 2003
                                                • 5560
                                                #62
                                                Alicia Keys thrilled an invited audience in London last night as she debuted material from her forthcoming second album, 'The Diary Of Alicia Keys'.

                                                The 21-year-old singer/songwriter, who won five Grammies for her debut 'Songs In A Minor', unveiled tracks including 'Streets Of New York', 'Diary' and the sublime classic soul of new single 'You Don't Know My Name', which earned her a standing ovation.

                                                Produced by frequent Jay-Z collaborator Kanye West, the track samples the Main Ingredient track 'Let Me Prove My Love To You' and brings a lush 'What's Goin' On' era Motown feel to contemporary R&B.

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                                                  • Honeyslut
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                    • 6436
                                                    #63
                                                    Originally posted by Tytan
                                                    yeah its called a sample


                                                    examples

                                                    Bowie & Jagger - Under Pressure

                                                    Vanilla Ice - Ice Ice Baby


                                                    AeroSmith - Dream On

                                                    Eminem - Sing For The Moment

                                                    etc
                                                    What song was Dream on sampled from ?

                                                    Just curious.
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                                                      • Deb
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Feb 2002
                                                        • 1237
                                                        #64
                                                        Originally posted by The Truth Hurts


                                                        and then weird al sent coolio a fat check, and coolio shut the fuck up.
                                                        Exactly! I just thought it was funny that he got pissed in the first place, since he 'sampled' from Stevie.

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                                                          • The Truth Hurts
                                                            Zph7YXfjMhg
                                                            • Nov 2002
                                                            • 15792
                                                            #65
                                                            Originally posted by Honeyslut


                                                            What song was Dream on sampled from ?

                                                            Just curious.
                                                            Eminem - The Eminem Show - 12 - Sing For The Moment.mp3


                                                            that one.

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                                                              • Ic3m4nZ
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Aug 2003
                                                                • 6285
                                                                #66
                                                                who gives a fuck about alicia keys she sucks anyway.

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                                                                  • uptheyingyang
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • May 2003
                                                                    • 376
                                                                    #67
                                                                    Originally posted by Pornwolf

                                                                    " Even Norah Jones, for as many grammies as she won, didn't really produce her own songs" [/B]

                                                                    exactly right.

                                                                    but the mark of a true artist is the ability to take something and make it their own.

                                                                    just listen to norah jones by herself with just her voice and her playing a single piano knock out hoagy charmichael's "the nearness of you"---gives ya' fuckin goosebumps if you know music.

                                                                    or bette midler's version of the ballad "as time goes by"

                                                                    or diana krall doing the joni mitchell tune "a case of you" at her piano.

                                                                    or natalie cole doing any number of her dad's ballads a capella.

                                                                    some artists are the real thing.

                                                                    and 85% of so-called artists are manufactured by handlers, who need dancers and colored lights, and fireworks and 10 backup singers to do a presentation.
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                                                                      • playa
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Feb 2001
                                                                        • 6432
                                                                        #68
                                                                        Talk about a blind subject

                                                                        I was waiting on you to say she really didn't know how to play the piano or sing, lol

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                                                                          • Basic_man
                                                                            Programming King Pin
                                                                            • Oct 2003
                                                                            • 27360
                                                                            #69
                                                                            Originally posted by masta flash
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                                                                            fucking fruads! i hate them
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                                                                              • JSA Matt
                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                • Aug 2003
                                                                                • 5464
                                                                                #70
                                                                                Jay-Z is the king of 'sampling'

                                                                                He has yet to make a track from nothing.

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                                                                                  • 69pornlinks
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                                    • 5560
                                                                                    #71
                                                                                    Originally posted by JSA Matt
                                                                                    Jay-Z is the king of 'sampling'

                                                                                    He has yet to make a track from nothing.
                                                                                    Maybe,just maybe because he don't produce his tracks
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