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  • aflex
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    • Oct 2002
    • 3127

    #1

    alicia keys is a fraud

    yes its true.. i feel bad because i liked her too..

    if anyone cares i'll post my evidence
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  • klik
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    • Nov 2001
    • 5092

    #2
    i don't give a shit..

    but post evidence anyways. i'm bored.

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    • pamphage
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      • Jan 2003
      • 3569

      #3
      Originally posted by aflex
      yes its true.. i feel bad because i liked her too..

      if anyone cares i'll post my evidence
      like milli vanilli (sp?) type fraud?
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      • Adult Site Traffic
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        • Mar 2003
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        #4
        Originally posted by klik
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        • aflex
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          • Oct 2002
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          #5
          i really feel ripped off because i respected her alot as a talent.. she still has great talent but not as much as i thought now after hearing this..

          ok here's my evidence.. it comes from a Single from 1966 by a Soul group called "The Main Ingredient" the song in question is their song "Let Me Prove My Love To You"..

          now if you're familiar with Alicia Keys hit song "You Dont Know My Name", you wont have to download the mp3 im posting of it.. but help yourself anyway..

          please listen to the song from 1966 then Alicia Keys' song.

          1966 - The Main Ingredient - Let Me Prove My Love To You

          2003 - Alicia Keys - You Dont Know My Name

          post your thoughts
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          • aflex
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            • Oct 2002
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            #6
            btw listen to the whole song from 1966
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            • liquidmoe
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              • Mar 2002
              • 4994

              #7
              Im no musical expert, but isnt the beginning of the alicia keys song taken completely from a riff in the older '66 track?

              Take Luck!

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              • masta flash
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                • Aug 2003
                • 530

                #8
                i once had sex with her. she was not good. i want my money back

                fucking fruads! i hate them

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                • rooster
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                  • Jan 2003
                  • 2384

                  #9
                  black people call this 'sampling'
                  Ever notice that pretty much everything added to the Constitution after the original was a mistake.

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                  • pamphage
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                    • Jan 2003
                    • 3569

                    #10
                    Originally posted by masta flash
                    i once had sex with her. she was not good. i want my money back

                    fucking fruads! i hate them
                    scarey! i was just wondering what happend to you and that guy in your sig yesterday! and poof! here you are! lol
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                    • liquidmoe
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                      • Mar 2002
                      • 4994

                      #11
                      Originally posted by rooster
                      black people call this 'sampling'

                      Take Luck!

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                      • aflex
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                        • Oct 2002
                        • 3127

                        #12
                        yeah rooster, but supposedly shes a musical genius.. i held her musical talents in high regard..
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                        • masta flash
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                          • Aug 2003
                          • 530

                          #13
                          Originally posted by pamphage


                          scarey! i was just wondering what happend to you and that guy in your sig yesterday! and poof! here you are! lol
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                          • aflex
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                            • Oct 2002
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                            #14
                            this isnt p diddy or the neptunes, shes winning awards for this shit..
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                            • iroc409
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                              • Jan 2003
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                              #15
                              lol, it seems there's not much in the way of new music these days. especially it seems on the radio and the rap/r&b genres. sometimes the remix hits the radio before the original song does. everybody uses everybody's lyrics and songs. it's kinda lame.

                              hell, look back at 'house of the rising sun'. it was a rip from leadbelly in the early 1900's or whatever.
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                              • Doctor Dre
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                                • Jan 2001
                                • 51692

                                #16
                                Originally posted by liquidmoe
                                Im no musical expert, but isnt the beginning of the alicia keys song taken completely from a riff in the older '66 track?
                                Eminem stole whole songs from Led Zeppelin and mixed others . All rap songs are just sample nowdays from old tracks . Music became masturbation and nothing new is beeing created . We just dont know because we dunno shit about music anymore.
                                Originally posted by rayadp05
                                I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                • foolio
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                                  • Nov 2002
                                  • 12366

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by aflex
                                  yeah rooster, but supposedly shes a musical genius.. i held her musical talents in high regard..
                                  Its all good - she just pulled a p-diddy there.

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                                  • liquidmoe
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                                    • Mar 2002
                                    • 4994

                                    #18
                                    I thought she had most of her acclaim for singing, not for the piano?

                                    Take Luck!

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                                    • Doctor Dre
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                                      • Jan 2001
                                      • 51692

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by aflex
                                      this isnt p diddy or the neptunes, shes winning awards for this shit..
                                      Neptunes are actually musical geniouses ... I think they are brigning things to a new level . Alicia keys didnt bring shit . And Djs like Jazzy Jeff and other commercial rappers have won grammies ... Even lil john won a grammy for GET LOW . Awards are all bullshit nowdays and this isnt about the creation but more the commercial success as nothing new is getting created.
                                      Originally posted by rayadp05
                                      I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                      • flashfire
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                                        • Feb 2003
                                        • 13098

                                        #20
                                        black people call this 'sampling'

                                        To every newer hip-hop or rb song there is a classic being ripped off

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                                        • aflex
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Oct 2002
                                          • 3127

                                          #21
                                          its the combination of singing, piano, musical style, and soulful style that made her seem so great in terms of music..


                                          track 3 on her album is also a Gladys Knighht song "if i was your woman"
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                                          • liquidmoe
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                                            • Mar 2002
                                            • 4994

                                            #22
                                            There is still some new and interesting shit out there, Dizee Rascal in England has some weird fucked up rap that I definitely never heard in the states.

                                            Take Luck!

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                                            • Doctor Dre
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                                              • Jan 2001
                                              • 51692

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by flashfire



                                              To every newer hip-hop or rb song there is a classic being ripped off
                                              Its not just hip hop or r&b its the whole musical world . Only couple guys really start something from scratch . If a hit was successfull in the 70s then its still gonna be succesfull now if you market it right . Right now hip hop is the best marketing . Dre and eminem are getting sued all the time for sample . Same for p diddy.
                                              Originally posted by rayadp05
                                              I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                              • Strife
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                                                • Aug 2001
                                                • 4534

                                                #24
                                                who cares...who doesn't sample these days?
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                                                • Doctor Dre
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                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                  • 51692

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by liquidmoe
                                                  There is still some new and interesting shit out there, Dizee Rascal in England has some weird fucked up rap that I definitely never heard in the states.
                                                  Yea that guy is really starting to get talked about . I seen his clip once at first when it went out and I was like WOAH . My friend started saying he was a fucking small rapper and wed never hear about him anymore ... now hes big as fuck in UK.
                                                  Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                  I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                  • aflex
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                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                    • 3127

                                                    #26
                                                    doctor dre, can you agree that the whole alicia keys phenom is flawed now that you've heard this? i'm big into hiphop so sampling is no big deal, but i thought her music was original.. fooled me.
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                                                    • Holly
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                                                      • Jun 2003
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                                                      #27
                                                      She's gay. And no, I'm not being a smartass. I think I read that all her people are having a stroke trying to keep it covered up.
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                                                      • budz
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                                                        • Sep 2003
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                                                        #28
                                                        I liked her first song better anyways
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                                                        • The Truth Hurts
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                                                          • Nov 2002
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                                                          #29
                                                          fallin' wasn't overly original either.

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                                                          • dougeetx
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                                                            • Apr 2002
                                                            • 6163

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by rooster
                                                            black people call this 'sampling'

                                                            White people call it sampling to, Vanilla Ice!
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                                                            • BSleazy
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                                                              • Aug 2002
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                                                              #31
                                                              i was waiting for a black dude to say something like that
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                                                              • Doctor Dre
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                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                • 51692

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by aflex
                                                                doctor dre, can you agree that the whole alicia keys phenom is flawed now that you've heard this? i'm big into hiphop so sampling is no big deal, but i thought her music was original.. fooled me.
                                                                I dunno I never liked her or found her original ... and off course shes sampling. Everybody does
                                                                Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                                I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                                • The Truth Hurts
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                                                                  • Nov 2002
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  would Alicia Keys ripping James Brown off in Fallin' be considered a balck on black crime...

                                                                  ?

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                                                                  • Yakuza
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                                                                    • Sep 2003
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Doctor Dre

                                                                    Eminem stole whole songs from Led Zeppelin and mixed others . All rap songs are just sample nowdays from old tracks . Music became masturbation and nothing new is beeing created . We just dont know because we dunno shit about music anymore.
                                                                    agree. all rap songs aren't original.

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                                                                    • 69pornlinks
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                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                      • 5560

                                                                      #35
                                                                      If i'm not mistaken kanye west produce this track for her
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                                                                      • liquidmoe
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                                                                        • Mar 2002
                                                                        • 4994

                                                                        #36
                                                                        If thats the case, Kanye takes alot of old school stuff but does some nice remixes of it.

                                                                        Take Luck!

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                                                                        • lock
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                                                                          • Jul 2003
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Every musician that has ever tried to write a song has accidently semi rewrote another song. It may take a friend to say hey that sounds like the eagles or what ever before they realise they ripped off same cords or riff. Try write a new riff today that hasnt been already recorded or stream a few cords together your probably playing someone elses song.
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                                                                          • SexxxyChat-T
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                                                                            • Jun 2003
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            I thought Alicia Keys whole thing was that she was inspired by classic R&B and modern hip hop, and was a classically trained pianist?

                                                                            Thats exactly what I am hearing.

                                                                            Are you also going to point out that in "Piano and I" that she ripped off Beethoven's "Moonlight Sonata"?

                                                                            She has original songs, and sampled songs... doesn't take anything away from her talent.
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                                                                            • Vitasoy
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                                                                              • Oct 2003
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              oh well, I'll still listen to her


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                                                                              • The Truth Hurts
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                                                                                • Nov 2002
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by SexxxyChat-T

                                                                                Are you also going to point out that in "Piano and I" that she ripped off Beethoven's "Moonlight Sonata"?
                                                                                I've heard the same exact thing about Fallin'.. that it's a rip of moonlight sonata... but....

                                                                                listen to "It's a Man's, Man's World" by James Brown....

                                                                                see if it sounds familiar.

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                                                                                • Arousal Design
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                                                                                  • Jun 2002
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  sampling is nothing new. i'd say 80% of new songs you hear are derivatives or directly sampled from another song.

                                                                                  who cares.

                                                                                  the neptunes don't sample much though.

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                                                                                  • KraZ
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                                                                                    • Oct 2003
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    It doesn't make any difference to me - I like her and I like her songs (somewhat less I admit).
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                                                                                    • Danny_C
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                                                                                      • Feb 2002
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by rooster
                                                                                      black people call this 'sampling'
                                                                                      Interesting. When white people use a "sampler", they also call it "sampling". Good job, rooster, you've found yet another similarity between the races.

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                                                                                      • beemk
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                                                                                        #44
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                                                                                        • TheEnforcer
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                                                                                          • May 2001
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Do you have any idea of how much music is recycled these days? Sheeseh, gripe about something that has legs why don't ya!
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                                                                                          • bopha
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                                                                                            • Sep 2002
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Sampling sucks. Couldn't figure out why everyone loved that Emenim song until you realize you've had 20 plus years of hearing the melody from Aerosmith.

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                                                                                            Just to add to the stupidity: I recall an interview with the rap chick (I'm not recalling her name) who sang with Sting on an awards show. It's the song about Biggie Smalls that sampled "Every breath you take" Sting showed up to sing with her and she told the press she didn't know who he was. She thought he was some hired singer. She didn't know he wrote the song.

                                                                                            I'd love to see someone like BigWillie Style come up with a new hit that didn't involve someone elses intellectual property.

                                                                                            And Fanilla Ice totally stole that piece. It wasn't sampled. It was copied. There's like one note difference.

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                                                                                            • Ross
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                                                                                              • Sep 2002
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by aflex
                                                                                              yeah rooster, but supposedly shes a musical genius.. i held her musical talents in high regard..
                                                                                              HAHA then life isn't worth shit anymore.......

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                                                                                              • Strife
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                                                                                                • Aug 2001
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                I don't see why anyone would have a problem with her sampling unless she has stated that she never sampled which I doubt she has .
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                                                                                                • pradaboy
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  yeh sampling is no crime... I don't like her music anywayz
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                                                                                                  • DrGuile
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    There is a lot of original music out there.

                                                                                                    Its just not being force fed to you like all this crap. you actually have to look for it.






                                                                                                    I have news for you, wether you listen to Justin Timberlake or Eminem or Alicia Keys, you are listening to the same music:

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