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  • hijacked
    Registered User
    • Jan 2004
    • 1

    #1

    Choppa stealing IP space?

    Just posted to the NANOG list (www.nanog.org), anyone know what's going on?



    Could a security contact from C&W PLEASE contact me off list? This
    is very important!

    One of your customers, Net Transactions LLC (doing business under the
    name "hahahahahaha"), is advertising 146.20.40.0/21. According
    to ARIN whois and www.completewhois.com, this IP block is illegally
    hijacked, and used without authorization from its original owners.

    I've tried contacting your NOC on several occasions via telephone and
    e-mail and have been unable to get this advertisement filtered.

    In addition, I've called Erie Forge and Steel, the rightful owners of
    this block, who've articulated they've gotten numerous complaints
    about port scanning and spam from this IP block.

    Route-server output enclosed.

    route-server.phx1>sh ip bgp 146.20.40.0
    BGP routing table entry for 146.20.40.0/21, version 2398010279
    Paths: (14 available, best #3)
    Not advertised to any peer
    6461 20473 20473, (received & used)
    203.192.129.42 (inaccessible) from 203.192.128.96 (203.192.128.96)
    Origin IGP, metric 50, localpref 200, valid, internal
    Community: 3549:2402 3549:32392
    Originator: 203.192.129.16, Cluster list: 0.0.1.155
    6461 20473 20473, (received & used)
    203.192.129.42 (inaccessible) from 203.192.134.97 (203.192.134.97)
    Origin IGP, metric 50, localpref 200, valid, internal
    Community: 3549:2402 3549:32392
    Originator: 203.192.129.16, Cluster list: 0.0.1.155
    6461 20473 20473
    206.132.117.1 from 67.17.81.117 (67.17.81.117)
    Origin IGP, metric 50, localpref 200, valid, internal, best
    Community: 3549:2082 3549:30840
    Originator: 67.17.80.182, Cluster list: 0.0.0.81
    6461 20473 20473, (received-only)
    208.50.13.106 from 67.17.81.117 (67.17.81.117)
    Origin IGP, metric 50, localpref 200, valid, internal
    Community: 3549:2082 3549:30840
    Originator: 67.17.80.182, Cluster list: 0.0.0.81
    OrgName: Erie Forge and Steel
    OrgID: EFS
    Address: 1341 West 16th Street
    Address: P.O. Box 180
    City: Erie
    StateProv: PA
    PostalCode: 16512
    Country: US

    NetRange: 146.20.0.0 - 146.20.255.255
    CIDR: 146.20.0.0/16
    NetName: IWAVE
    NetHandle: NET-146-20-0-0-1
    Parent: NET-146-0-0-0-0
    NetType: Direct Allocation
    Comment: The information for this network has been reported to
    Comment: be invalid. ARIN has attempted to obtain updated data,
    but has
    Comment: been unsuccessful. To provide current contact information,
    Comment: please e-mail [email protected].

    RegDate: 1991-01-18
    Updated: 2003-06-30
  • GonePhishing
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2003
    • 2474

    #2
    If Biff Fucks My Mom... I Might Never Be Born...

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    • Deepsy1
      Confirmed User
      • Jul 2003
      • 506

      #3
      go fuck yourself !

      biatch
      ...but still im having memories of high speed,when the cops crash, pushing a cock into my ass,while my tiny pecker blasts.

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      • JDog
        Confirmed User
        • Feb 2003
        • 7453

        #4
        Damn, that's not good!

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        • Pipecrew
          Master of Gfy.com
          • Feb 2002
          • 14888

          #5
          who the fuck is choppa?

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          • smashface
            Confirmed User
            • Sep 2002
            • 991

            #6
            I think he means hahahahahaha.

            Is it possible that maybe there is a type in the routes their announcing?

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            • stephenv
              Registered User
              • Nov 2003
              • 21

              #7
              Why did you change "hahahahahaha" to "hahahahahaha"?

              http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/msg00679.html
              SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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              • stephenv
                Registered User
                • Nov 2003
                • 21

                #8
                Oh i see, some filter on GFY.
                SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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                • Rictor
                  Old Timer
                  • Jan 2001
                  • 12208

                  #9
                  Are you talking about C H O O P A? I have a TGP server there.

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                  • JDog
                    Confirmed User
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 7453

                    #10
                    What the hell is hahahahaha, space it out or something!

                    jDoG
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                    • Dirty F
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Jul 2001
                      • 59204

                      #11
                      why is hahahahahaha a banned word?

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                      • Mutt
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 34431

                        #12
                        isn't hahahahahaha the home of AdultBouncer - time they got their asses sued as well.
                        I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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                        • JDog
                          Confirmed User
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 7453

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Battuss
                          why is hahahahahaha a banned word?
                          What is this filtering? ICQ me it!

                          I want in on this! I want to know what company is being replaced by HAHAHAHAHA

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                          • Dirty F
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Jul 2001
                            • 59204

                            #14
                            ch<a>oopa

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                            • smashface
                              Confirmed User
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 991

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Rictor
                              Are you talking about C H O O P A? I have a TGP server there.
                              These guys

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                              • Mutt
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Sep 2002
                                • 34431

                                #16
                                try that again hahahahahaha
                                I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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                                • Pornwolf
                                  Drunk and Unruly
                                  • Jan 2002
                                  • 22712

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Battuss
                                  ch<a>oopa
                                  Hahaha

                                  Now I know what you do in your spare time... other than fuick babes with nice asses.
                                  I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

                                  Webair, bitches.

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                                  • stephenv
                                    Registered User
                                    • Nov 2003
                                    • 21

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Rictor
                                    Are you talking about C H O O P A? I have a TGP server there.
                                    Perhaps you should find out what your IP address is for your domain (ping or traceroute will tell you).

                                    If you're in that ip block: 146.20.40.0/21 it could be bad when C&W wakes up. Or it could have been hijacked temporarily for spamming. I dunno, never heard of choo pa myself.
                                    SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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                                    • JDog
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Feb 2003
                                      • 7453

                                      #19
                                      Damn that's not good for them! I guess you shouldn't steal IP's!

                                      jDoG
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                                      • media
                                        Confirmed Moneymaker
                                        • Apr 2002
                                        • 9853

                                        #20
                                        chòópa chup?

                                        Media
                                        I'm here for the violence!

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                                        • Mutt
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Sep 2002
                                          • 34431

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Battuss
                                          ch<a>oopa
                                          ch<a>oopa
                                          I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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                                          • Dirty F
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Jul 2001
                                            • 59204

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Mutt


                                            ch<a>oopa
                                            copycat

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                                            • Makingcoin
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Aug 2002
                                              • 8919

                                              #23
                                              English please!

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                                              • paul1000
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Aug 2003
                                                • 181

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Mutt
                                                isn't hahahahahaha the home of AdultBouncer - time they got their asses sued as well.
                                                I just blacklisted adultbouncer.com tonight for redirecting galleries. found about 30 of them ...
                                                779 (or MORE) to go !! <br>Life is Tough <br>

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                                                • Trax
                                                  [----------------------]
                                                  • Aug 2001
                                                  • 14486

                                                  #25
                                                  thats not nice
                                                  i remember them declining my request for unique ips lol
                                                  what a bunch of morons

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                                                  • Kick Ass Chat
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Dec 2002
                                                    • 2057

                                                    #26
                                                    Could Ch00pa be the next Like Whohaha ??
                                                    [email protected]

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                                                    • DennisS
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                      • 265

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by GirlsFreePics
                                                      Could Ch00pa be the next Like Whohaha ??
                                                      no but you are the next idiot !

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                                                      • Shaft558
                                                        Registered User
                                                        • Jan 2004
                                                        • 3

                                                        #28
                                                        Are you sure its not the other way around, them trying to steal IP's from Net Transactions. The ip range has been in use for quite some time by Net Transactions. Maybe if you try to contact them directly you can try and find out what is going on. Cable and Wireless will not be able to do anything about it. Ch()()pa does not host adultbouncer, i repeat ch()()pa does not host adultbounce. if you check their ips they are not owned by ch()()pa of any of its affiliates.

                                                        By the way, Ch()()pa RULES!!!!!!!!
                                                        Last edited by Shaft558; 01-02-2004, 04:24 AM.
                                                        poop on you

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                                                        • notjoe
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • May 2002
                                                          • 5599

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Shaft558
                                                          Are you sure its not the other way around, them trying to steal IP's from Net Transactions. The ip range has been in use for quite some time by Net Transactions. Maybe if you try to contact them directly you can try and find out what is going on. Cable and Wireless will not be able to do anything about it. Ch()()pa does not host adultbouncer, i repeat ch()()pa does not host adultbounce. if you check their ips they are not owned by ch()()pa of any of its affiliates.

                                                          By the way, Ch()()pa RULES!!!!!!!!
                                                          And ofcourse we all will listen to you, someone who's first post is to defend this. The WHOIS DB doesnt lie. Just look at the Register Date.
                                                          hahahahahaha.Com Domain Registration Date: 2000
                                                          Net Access Registration date for IPS hahahahahaha.com runs on.
                                                          RegDate: 1996-04-23

                                                          Now, the IPS who you claim are being stolen from hahahahahaha.com were registered on 1991-01-18, quite possibly while the owner of hahahahahaha.com was still in his mothers womb. clearly YOU have it backwards.

                                                          To me, what i see is them hijacking those IPS to do spam/portscanning/possible trojan uploading and sending the heat to the owners. Seriously though, what better way to do it than to do it under someone elses IP space!

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                                                          • Shaft558
                                                            Registered User
                                                            • Jan 2004
                                                            • 3

                                                            #30
                                                            NetRange: 146.20.0.0 - 146.20.255.255
                                                            CIDR: 146.20.0.0/16
                                                            NetName: IWAVE
                                                            NetHandle: NET-146-20-0-0-1
                                                            Parent: NET-146-0-0-0-0
                                                            NetType: Direct Allocation
                                                            Comment: The information for this network has been reported to
                                                            Comment: be invalid. ARIN has attempted to obtain updated data,
                                                            but has
                                                            Comment: been unsuccessful. To provide current contact information,
                                                            Comment: please e-mail [email protected].

                                                            They are having trouble verifying the information for that network. I know for a fact that ch()()pa does not spam, i know there is one person in here that can verify that.

                                                            here is something from one of the sites the original guy listed,
                                                            Information Wave
                                                            -
                                                            Omachonu Ogali 146.20.0.0/16,
                                                            199.74.235.0/24,
                                                            199.26.176.0/24 AS5042 Information Wave -
                                                            informationwave.net Hijacking legacy ARIN ip blocks and using it for his own business and selling large parts of that to others. Also suspected to have shown how to hijack ip blocks to others.

                                                            you want someone to blame, thats the person.
                                                            poop on you

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                                                            • notjoe
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • May 2002
                                                              • 5599

                                                              #31
                                                              Umm,

                                                              http://www.completewhois.com/hijacke...146.20.0.0.txt

                                                              Now, unless i am missing something is their conclusion which is

                                                              "Conclusion: 146.20.0.0/16 is an ip block hijacked from Erie Forge & Steel. This ip block was hijacked by reregistered erie-steel.com domain (while erie-steel itself is now only using eriesteel.com).
                                                              Erie Forge & Steel is now owned by the Park Corporation."

                                                              So how did hahahahahaha get the ip space? Will they be forced to give it up when this is all sorted? The original owners of the IP space is eriesteel.com and no one is disputing that so it only seems right they take it back unless there is some sort of deal in place

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                                                              • liquidmoe
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Mar 2002
                                                                • 4994

                                                                #32
                                                                Dont quote me on these but as far as the rumors I heard, the IP space is stolen, and even if there was an agreement between the original owners of the IP space and hahahahahaha, it isn't within the authority of the original owners to reassign that IP space, thats ARIN's.

                                                                Take Luck!

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                                                                • Shaft558
                                                                  Registered User
                                                                  • Jan 2004
                                                                  • 3

                                                                  #33
                                                                  If you look a little further down you see this clearly:

                                                                  OrgName: Erie Forge and Steel
                                                                  OrgID: EFS
                                                                  Address: 1341 West 16th Street
                                                                  Address: P.O. Box 180
                                                                  Address: Erie, PA, 16512
                                                                  City:
                                                                  StateProv:
                                                                  PostalCode:
                                                                  Country: US

                                                                  NetRange: 146.20.0.0 - 146.20.255.255
                                                                  CIDR: 146.20.0.0/16
                                                                  NetName: IWAVE
                                                                  NetHandle: NET-146-20-0-0-1
                                                                  Parent: NET-146-0-0-0-0
                                                                  NetType: Direct Allocation
                                                                  NameServer: NS1.INFORMATIONWAVE.NET
                                                                  NameServer: NS2.INFORMATIONWAVE.NET
                                                                  Comment:
                                                                  RegDate: 1991-01-18
                                                                  Updated: 2002-08-26

                                                                  TechHandle: OO27-ARIN
                                                                  TechName: Ogali, Omachonu O
                                                                  TechPhone: +1-908-654-5936
                                                                  TechEmail: [email protected]

                                                                  NOCHandle: INO6-ARIN
                                                                  NOCName: IWT Network Operations
                                                                  NOCPhone: +1-908-654-5936
                                                                  NOCEmail: [email protected]


                                                                  So my assumption would be that the guy from information wave stole the range and sold the ips to Net Transactions. I am sure when the owner becomes aware of the situation he will do what is needed to make the situation proper. I am a customer of hahahahahaha and have been doing business with them for quite some time now, and they have some of the best hosting prices and some of the best support you can find, 24/7/365 and 366 on leap year. Maybe everyone should check it out. www.hahahahahaha.com
                                                                  poop on you

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                                                                  • notjoe
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • May 2002
                                                                    • 5599

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by liquidmoe
                                                                    Dont quote me on these but as far as the rumors I heard, the IP space is stolen, and even if there was an agreement between the original owners of the IP space and hahahahahaha, it isn't within the authority of the original owners to reassign that IP space, thats ARIN's.
                                                                    Indeed, but if you can get away with doing things with that IP space to make money but which wouldnt hit you too hard when you lost it then it might just be worth it

                                                                    Even if they dont keep the ips forwarded it would be a good way for ES to pick up some extra biz.

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                                                                    • liquidmoe
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Mar 2002
                                                                      • 4994

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Certainly makes sense for a spam operation, but if any legitimate servers are on there then they will be seriously fuct as soon as ARIN figures out this error.

                                                                      Take Luck!

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                                                                      • SoundMan
                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                        • Nov 2003
                                                                        • 3471

                                                                        #36
                                                                        another hahahahahahhaha thread

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                                                                        • notjoe
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • May 2002
                                                                          • 5599

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Shaft558
                                                                          If you look a little further down you see this clearly:

                                                                          OrgName: Erie Forge and Steel
                                                                          OrgID: EFS
                                                                          Address: 1341 West 16th Street
                                                                          Address: P.O. Box 180
                                                                          Address: Erie, PA, 16512
                                                                          City:
                                                                          StateProv:
                                                                          PostalCode:
                                                                          Country: US

                                                                          NetRange: 146.20.0.0 - 146.20.255.255
                                                                          CIDR: 146.20.0.0/16
                                                                          NetName: IWAVE
                                                                          NetHandle: NET-146-20-0-0-1
                                                                          Parent: NET-146-0-0-0-0
                                                                          NetType: Direct Allocation
                                                                          NameServer: NS1.INFORMATIONWAVE.NET
                                                                          NameServer: NS2.INFORMATIONWAVE.NET
                                                                          Comment:
                                                                          RegDate: 1991-01-18
                                                                          Updated: 2002-08-26

                                                                          TechHandle: OO27-ARIN
                                                                          TechName: Ogali, Omachonu O
                                                                          TechPhone: +1-908-654-5936
                                                                          TechEmail: [email protected]

                                                                          NOCHandle: INO6-ARIN
                                                                          NOCName: IWT Network Operations
                                                                          NOCPhone: +1-908-654-5936
                                                                          NOCEmail: [email protected]


                                                                          So my assumption would be that the guy from information wave stole the range and sold the ips to Net Transactions. I am sure when the owner becomes aware of the situation he will do what is needed to make the situation proper. I am a customer of hahahahahaha and have been doing business with them for quite some time now, and they have some of the best hosting prices and some of the best support you can find, 24/7/365 and 366 on leap year. Maybe everyone should check it out. www.hahahahahaha.com

                                                                          Hey Asshole,

                                                                          Dont tell me
                                                                          "If you look a little further down you see this clearly:"
                                                                          because if i remember correctly you're the idiot who said the IPS were probably being stolen from hahahahahaha. You also said they didnt run any Spam Operations, so, explain to me why ES would be getting spam complaints to IPs routed to hahahahahaha (illegally might i add), regardless whether they bought it from someone they're still stolen.

                                                                          Originally posted by Shaft558
                                                                          Are you sure its not the other way around, them trying to steal IP's from Net Transactions. The ip range has been in use for quite some time by Net Transactions. Maybe if you try to contact them directly you can try and find out what is going on. Cable and Wireless will not be able to do anything about it. Ch()()pa does not host adultbouncer, i repeat ch()()pa does not host adultbounce. if you check their ips they are not owned by ch()()pa of any of its affiliates.
                                                                          "
                                                                          I have no ill-feeling towards hahahahahaha, i've never dealt with them but doing some quick searching on google you can clearly see these IPS are trouble.

                                                                          Now as for Ogali, Omachonu, he seems like one helpful person. I have yet to see anything bad about him anywhere on the net.. infact all i do see about him is him helping ppl on routing/BGP issues throughout all kinds of mailing lists..

                                                                          Go do your homework son, come back when you can prove us wrong

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                                                                          • extreme
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                                            • 2120

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Haha, what a surprise to find PILOSOFT hiding in that ip space also.

                                                                            Another TGP cheater haven.

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                                                                            • Herb Kornfield
                                                                              Is on the 1
                                                                              • Sep 2002
                                                                              • 4996

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Ogali Omachonu used to work at LikeWhoa last year.....

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