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  • Rosie
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2003
    • 369

    #1

    Cardgate bites the dust maybe?

    I use CardsGate as my secondary processor on a couple of paysites and all my sales with them since 22nd July have been sitting there pending. CardsGate say there are "technical issues" between their software and their bank.

    I've tried to ICQ their salesrep and for once he hasn't been online all day - they're also not answering emails.

    Why do I think they'll be shortly doing a Globill on me??
  • WebDork
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2002
    • 402

    #2
    Certainly starting to look like they are about to "disappear".

    I use them as primary for one of my sites and havent noticed any new signups in their control panel - despite getting on average 5 signs up a day for this particular site for a long period of time.

    Have also noticed they are on ICQ a lot less than normal.
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    • EviLGuY
      So Fucking Banned
      • Apr 2003
      • 12745

      #3
      Yup.. they probably ran into compliance issues.. thats why they are having technical issues with their bank.. lol

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      • herbal logic
        Confirmed User
        • Feb 2004
        • 1172

        #4
        c to the p.

        Oleg V. Semenyuk

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        • Rosie
          Confirmed User
          • Jul 2003
          • 369

          #5
          Originally posted by WebDork
          Have also noticed they are on ICQ a lot less than normal.
          When the CardsGate rep signed on this morning I pounced with loads of questions. Amazingly he disappeared again almost instantly

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          • xclusive
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Apr 2004
            • 35218

            #6
            Never a good sign when the reps run...

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            • strobi
              Confirmed User
              • Nov 2002
              • 7383

              #7
              Originally posted by herbal logic
              c to the p.

              Oleg V. Semenyuk
              ebay id scammer?

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              • Rosie
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2003
                • 369

                #8
                Just received this mail from them

                ---------------------------------------

                I hope all your transactions will be showed as settled tomorrow.
                Sorry for technical delay.

                --
                Best regards,
                Finance

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                • Groove
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 3852

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Rosie
                  Just received this mail from them

                  ---------------------------------------

                  I hope all your transactions will be showed as settled tomorrow.
                  Sorry for technical delay.

                  --
                  Best regards,
                  Finance
                  Good luck with that

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                  • Neff
                    Registered User
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 86

                    #10
                    Rosie

                    Sorry for the any inconvenience but your representative Jason Fromm has an urgent business trip and won't be available for a couple of days.

                    If you need any help or information you can contact me directly via ICQ or via e-mail at [email protected] .
                    Andrew Neff
                    Biz-Dev Guy

                    ICQ# 210053153

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                    • WebDork
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jan 2002
                      • 402

                      #11
                      Neff you guys are making a LOT of people very nervous by your lack of contact and explanation.
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                      • CHMOD
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 1697

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Neff
                        Rosie

                        Sorry for the any inconvenience but your representative Jason Fromm has an urgent business trip and won't be available for a couple of days.

                        If you need any help or information you can contact me directly via ICQ or via e-mail at [email protected] .



                        I am laughing but it is sad.

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                        • Rosie
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 369

                          #13
                          For the record, despite the promises of their finance department, my sales still show as pending.

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                          • WebDork
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jan 2002
                            • 402

                            #14
                            All sales should have been pending as of about 26th of last month.

                            They are still pending BUT users have access to all our content
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                            • Rosie
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 369

                              #15
                              Still pending

                              Several of their staff including Neff told me they'd all be cleared by last week.

                              Trustworthy bunch of fuckers aren't they?

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                              • pxxx
                                First African GFY Member
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 12114

                                #16
                                Originally posted by strobi
                                ebay id scammer?
                                Ebay scam me for some paintball guns.

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                                • H.I.G
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Mar 2004
                                  • 926

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Rosie
                                  Still pending

                                  Several of their staff including Neff told me they'd all be cleared by last week.

                                  Trustworthy bunch of fuckers aren't they?
                                  I am also really pissed with Cards Gate. It has been almost a month since this whole Pending shit started and non of my webmasters have got payments. I use them as my secondary processor after CCBill.

                                  But during the past month lots of traffic were sent through to them. Neff promised to have this cleared up last week and still nothing. These guys have disappeared from ICQ as well as Telephones. When you call their number it's always busy. Looks like they've kept it off hook.

                                  I am going to give them a day or two to resolve this Pending transactions once and for all if they don't I am going to get my lawyers to Contact Visa & Master Card International and have them shut off their Merchant accounts and seize all their funds for this shit.

                                  Geeze, at lease have the common courtesy to pick up the phone or keep the site owners and the affiliates informed of what?s going on. But nooooo they come up with all sorts of bull shit excuses each day and hides away when we try to reach em?.

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                                  • H.I.G
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Mar 2004
                                    • 926

                                    #18
                                    .

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                                    • WebDork
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jan 2002
                                      • 402

                                      #19
                                      Well the saga drags on... and on...

                                      Anyone have alternative recommendations ?

                                      Outside US / Celeb site etc...
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                                      • pine
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Oct 2002
                                        • 1373

                                        #20
                                        hmmmm...someone else lose a merchant account? ouch.
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                                        • The Other Steve
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Dec 2001
                                          • 2106

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by WebDork
                                          Well the saga drags on... and on...

                                          Anyone have alternative recommendations ?

                                          Outside US / Celeb site etc...
                                          At the Australian convention on the Gold Coast at the start of the year there was a guy pushing merchant accounts from Vanauatu or somewhere like that.

                                          I can't remember his contact details but if you can track down Teen Angel she might remember where he came from and he might be able to help.
                                          Left intentionally blank ... just like my brain

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                                          • chupachups
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Dec 2002
                                            • 6576

                                            #22
                                            Sales pending since the 22nd? I would have dumped them a week ago...

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                                            • Rosie
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jul 2003
                                              • 369

                                              #23
                                              I dumped them off my sites on 25th. I just want the money the fuckers owe me now.

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                                              • arachnO
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jan 2004
                                                • 1327

                                                #24
                                                oh shit! we have no settled transactions from 22th! CG, give us our money! ! !
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                                                • WebDork
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                  • 402

                                                  #25
                                                  Bumping for alternate recommendations ?
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                                                  • Zprogramz
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Apr 2003
                                                    • 1360

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by WebDork
                                                    Bumping for alternate recommendations ?
                                                    Have you tried Netbilling?

                                                    Z

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                                                    • rewn
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                      • 385

                                                      #27
                                                      Ok

                                                      Yes, i'm pissed off to, they owe me 5 weeks worth, they are my only billing option so yeah. thousands.

                                                      If it was easy for me to change billers i would, but being outside the US restricts me a lot $(@#*%*

                                                      I spoke to a tech last and i'll post the transcript here so you can all see whats going on.

                                                      What pisses off the most is the no news, they don't tell shit. Especially Andrew Neff, I spoke to him 3 weeks ago and he said it working by that Friday. Tried contacting him by email and ICQ since and got nothing back. Pretty fucked up way of treating customers which make them a LOT of money.

                                                      Anyways, here ya go...




                                                      ----------------------
                                                      hi

                                                      ok

                                                      you just sent me an email

                                                      Soon, what IS soon ? a few days ? a few more weeks ? any estimated time ?
                                                      ----------------------
                                                      [CG Tech] Smith, 02.09.2004 15:42 :
                                                      I can't tell you for sure.
                                                      We also are confused of this situation and doing our best to solve it as soon as possible.

                                                      -----------------------

                                                      [CG Tech] Smith, 02.09.2004 15:42 :
                                                      Cardsgate is moving to Visa 3D Secure system and it is a lot of work getting compliant. Next week we hope to complete all tests.
                                                      --------------------

                                                      what if you can't solve it ?

                                                      --------------------

                                                      [CG Tech] Smith, 02.09.2004 15:42 :
                                                      We will solve it, just need time. Nothing serious, just a long routine work...
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                                                      ---------------------

                                                      ITs very hard for us

                                                      we get No news

                                                      and no money for 5 weeks

                                                      -----------------------

                                                      [CG Tech] Smith, 02.09.2004 15:42 :

                                                      I understand, believe me, we are in almost same situation.
                                                      But we are working on solution.

                                                      -----------------------


                                                      So where is the money people sign up with ? Surely you got paid for that ?

                                                      ------------------------

                                                      [CG Tech] Smith, 02.09.2004 15:42 :

                                                      No, we don't.
                                                      All transactions are stoped for now.

                                                      -----------------------


                                                      but people can still sign up

                                                      -----------------------

                                                      [CG Tech] Smith, 02.09.2004 15:42 :
                                                      Yes, but, as I know, they don't get access to your content.

                                                      -----------------------


                                                      yup they sure do

                                                      they get billed

                                                      this week i have 34 accepted , 4 denied

                                                      in the last 5 weeks i have 250 new signups

                                                      -----------------------

                                                      [CG Tech] Smith, 02.09.2004 15:42 :
                                                      Ok, I understand.
                                                      Huh....
                                                      Wait please.


                                                      ------------------------

                                                      [CG Tech] Smith, 02.09.2004 15:42 :
                                                      Ok, I see.
                                                      You can disable all users using our panel, to save your's traff.

                                                      --------------------------

                                                      why would i do that ? in case i dont get paid ?

                                                      --------------------------

                                                      [CG Tech] Smith, 02.09.2004 15:42 :
                                                      transaction and any checks.
                                                      So many users can use false card numbers to get access, we cannot prevent it.
                                                      So, to reduce chargeback we will, check all cards before taking money, Carders don't sleep


                                                      ---------------------------

                                                      ok

                                                      so thats a chargeback

                                                      god, what will i do :/

                                                      --------------------------------

                                                      [CG Tech] Smith, 02.09.2004 15:42 :
                                                      no, no charge-back from users, who are honest and use their cc. All gonna be checked-out before making a transaction.


                                                      --------------------------

                                                      so what happens if you dont come back and i never get paid ?

                                                      do i leave now and find another provider ?

                                                      ---------------------------

                                                      [CG Tech] Smith, 02.09.2004 15:42 :
                                                      We will come back.
                                                      We are working on it now!

                                                      ---------------------------

                                                      ok

                                                      i will ask you again on monday !


                                                      --------------------------

                                                      [CG Tech] Smith, 02.09.2004 15:42 :
                                                      Ok, no problem. I'll tell you, If i'll have some news.

                                                      -------------------------

                                                      thanks for your help

                                                      at least someone answers me !

                                                      ICQ: 121-043

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                                                      • rewn
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Aug 2004
                                                        • 385

                                                        #28
                                                        I just logged in to cardsgate and it seems they have some successful payments !

                                                        ICQ: 121-043

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                                                        • MattO
                                                          The O is for Oohhh
                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                          • 10861

                                                          #29
                                                          Need a backup merch account? I should be able to help.
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                                                          • rewn
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Aug 2004
                                                            • 385

                                                            #30
                                                            err.. you sale 'eh

                                                            ICQ: 121-043

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                                                            • tootie
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                              • 6041

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by rewn
                                                              err.. you sale 'eh
                                                              You don't hang out here much, do ya?

                                                              It was an intentional error. It's kind of an inside joke around here.


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                                                              • SABAI
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Jan 2001
                                                                • 2880

                                                                #32
                                                                glad that they were my Third processor and never made a sale with them.

                                                                i will take them off right now , as it seems to me that they are going the globill way

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                                                                • SABAI
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                  • 2880

                                                                  #33
                                                                  why do they implement 3D SECURE VISA, its not available for adult sites .


                                                                  found this on another billing site

                                                                  -----------
                                                                  Visa and 3-D Secure
                                                                  ZERO chargebacks if you participate in VBV/3DSecure. Consumers that are verified through this process CANNOT chargeback. This is a product that is only available to certain industries and is not availble for adult internet processing.
                                                                  -------------

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                                                                  • JakeR
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • May 2001
                                                                    • 1760

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Adult Merchant Accounts & Chargeback Management Solutions
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                                                                    • rewn
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                                      • 385

                                                                      #35
                                                                      From Cardsgate News :

                                                                      04-Sep-2004 Problems concerning the pending transactions are solved. Updates on this topic will be available on Monday, September 6th, 2004.

                                                                      ICQ: 121-043

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                                                                      • Zprogramz
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Apr 2003
                                                                        • 1360

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Dada - da - da - da, Another one bites the ddust yeah...

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