why are US laws so screwed up about sex/kids below the age of 18?

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  • IntenseCash
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    • Apr 2003
    • 2421

    #1

    why are US laws so screwed up about sex/kids below the age of 18?

    Ok so no pics/videos of sex provoking kids below the age of 18. 100% agreeable law, but what about the stories people write about incest or kids having sex. It sickens me!! I dont want to read about incest crap! And people that get off on this shit.

    I believe there should be laws against stories/pics/videos etc.

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  • The Click
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    • Apr 2003
    • 1685

    #2
    there are laws i think, even simulated CP is illegal


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    • Libertine
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      • May 2002
      • 17860

      #3
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      • Mr.Fiction
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        • Feb 2002
        • 9484

        #4
        They should also make it against the law for movies to show any illegal activity like murder, drug use, and driving over 55 miles per hour. Any rap song with lyrics that deal with anything immoral should be outlawed as well. They should also put artists in jail if they create art that is offensive to anyone.

        The government needs to find a way to stop people from thinking about bad things!

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        • Ludedude
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          • Jun 2001
          • 4432

          #5
          Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
          They should also make it against the law for movies to show any illegal activity like murder, drug use, and driving over 55 miles per hour. Any rap song with lyrics that deal with anything immoral should be outlawed as well. They should also put artists in jail if they create art that is offensive to anyone.

          The government needs to find a way to stop people from thinking about bad things!

          It's about fucking time someone realized this is a good idea!








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          • Elli
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            • Apr 2003
            • 17991

            #6
            If you attempt to suppress the expression of a thought, it may be expressed in other ways. I would rather people write stories than act on their fantasies, for lack of other methods of expression.
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            • pamphage
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              • Jan 2003
              • 3569

              #7
              Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
              They should also make it against the law for movies to show any illegal activity like murder, drug use, and driving over 55 miles per hour. Any rap song with lyrics that deal with anything immoral should be outlawed as well. They should also put artists in jail if they create art that is offensive to anyone.

              The government needs to find a way to stop people from thinking about bad things!

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              • Head
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                • Nov 2003
                • 8278

                #8
                Originally posted by Elli
                If you attempt to suppress the expression of a thought, it may be expressed in other ways. I would rather people write stories than act on their fantasies, for lack of other methods of expression.
                Agreed!

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                • neewwman
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                  • Jan 2002
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                  #9
                  Go read "1984" and see if you still think it's a good idea for government to try to control what you think.

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                  • pradaboy
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                    • Dec 2003
                    • 12931

                    #10
                    everything that's even near CP needs to be punished... it is the most cruel crime there is!
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                    • Rictor
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                      • Jan 2001
                      • 12208

                      #11
                      It may be sick, but I don't really think anyone is shoving incest/underage stories in your face. You have to seek that stuff out.

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                      • IntenseCash
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                        • Apr 2003
                        • 2421

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Rictor
                        It may be sick, but I don't really think anyone is shoving incest/underage stories in your face. You have to seek that stuff out.
                        true.. but same goes for incest and child pornography. If you know where to look you can find it. I believe reading the stories is just as bad as real child pornography.
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                        • mastamindz
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                          • Feb 2002
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by IntenseCash


                          true.. but same goes for incest and child pornography. If you know where to look you can find it. I believe reading the stories is just as bad as real child pornography.
                          I agree that the stories are sick and pictures/movies are even sicker. But I would rather have the sick fucks reading about it, rather then looking at pictures.
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                          • Mr.Fiction
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                            • Feb 2002
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by IntenseCash


                            true.. but same goes for incest and child pornography. If you know where to look you can find it. I believe reading the stories is just as bad as real child pornography.
                            Certain pictures are illegal because a real person was harmed to create them.

                            What is your justification for wanting fiction to be illegal?

                            Why should murder be legal in movies?

                            Murder is worse than child abuse, so why should people be able to make fictional movies and books with murder in them, but not child abuse?

                            Just because you and I may find them offensive doesn't mean they should be illegal.

                            Much of America finds porn offensive.
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                            • shermo

                              #15
                              Reading about it would actually hahahahaha a deeper mental picture, and it'd last much longer considering the actions have been spelled out. If you see an image, it's in your head for a little while, but unless it's incredibly memorable, it's going to be bombarded with other imagery until it's blurred or near forgotten.

                              I think both are incredibly serious and they need to be dealt with accordingly. People take what is written to heart many times.

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                              • richard123
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                                • Mar 2001
                                • 491

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


                                Certain pictures are illegal because a real person was harmed to create them.

                                What is your justification for wanting fiction to be illegal?
                                For the same reason that fake CP pics are illegal: Pedophiles can use it to make kids think it's not wrong.
                                Originally posted by Mr.Fiction

                                Why should murder be legal in movies?

                                Murder is worse than child abuse, so why should people be able to make fictional movies and books with murder in them, but not child abuse?
                                Because so many people (it seems...?) have been subject to sexual abuse as kids. It means there are plenty of people around that are extremely emotional about it and they can presure the rest of us (non-victims). Not many murder victims survive, on the other hand....

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                                • Mr.Fiction
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                                  • Feb 2002
                                  • 9484

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by richard123

                                  For the same reason that fake CP pics are illegal: Pedophiles can use it to make kids think it's not wrong.
                                  Fake child porn is legal in the United States.

                                  The Supreme Court ruled in 2002 that an actual child had to be harmed for them to be illegal.

                                  http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/20...child-porn.htm

                                  More child molesters probably use candy to entice their victims, then underage sex stories. Should candy also be illegal?

                                  What about guns?
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                                  • Jamdin
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                                    • Jan 2001
                                    • 3560

                                    #18
                                    If you ban stories of incest, then what is stopping you from banning real-life experiences. There are support groups with people who tell their experiences, be they good or bad.

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                                    • richard123
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                                      • Mar 2001
                                      • 491

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


                                      Fake child porn is legal in the United States.

                                      The Supreme Court ruled in 2002 that an actual child had to be harmed for them to be illegal.

                                      http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/20...child-porn.htm

                                      I actually agree with what you're saying I just remembered reading about why fake CP should be illegal, and they used that main argument.
                                      Just one thing: I don't agree with guns, but that's just me. In Australia, certain weapons are banned (like some martial arts weapons), but not guns. I'd like them to ban guns.

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                                      • timboss
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                                        • Sep 2003
                                        • 627

                                        #20
                                        anyone ever see that movie "Kids" a few years ago?

                                        all the actors in it were all under 16, showed them doing drugs, having sex, spreading AIDS, etc..

                                        this was acceptable for the movies. That one kid even had sex with that girl while she was sleeping.

                                        I guess the movie was considered "artistic" was somewhat shocking, especially to be released in the US
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