20,000 dead and noone really cares

number will be up to 40 000

thats 12 times the world trade center and nobody cares

bullshit, we never expect anything from the rest of the world, we have grown to expect that

sure ban

one is a natural disaster, one is foreign aggession . . . . how do they compare?

and WTF are you doing to help the Iranians? You sending them any money?"

No, we care. But we should have cared more to have made those people build housing that survives earthquakes.

Earthquakes rarely kill people, stupid and negligent people kill people.

yeah , I can't find filters for my joint and also no one cares
life ain't fair

They said they will gratefully accept humanitarian aid from all countries and organizations in the world, except for Israel, or as they call it, "the zionistic government"
that was before Israeli foreign minister expressed condolences for what happened on behalf of the Israeli government and the Israeli people

Thumbs up for the americans :

FOX News: The Truth Hurts



The Hazards of Watching Fox News

By Jim Lobe, Inter Press Service
October 3, 2003

The more commercial television news you watch, the more wrong you are likely to be about key elements of the Iraq War and its aftermath, according to a major new study released in Washington this week.


And the more you watch the Rupert Murdoch-owned Fox News channel, in particular, the more likely it is that your perceptions about the war are wrong, adds the report by the University of Maryland's Program on International Policy Attitudes (PIPA).


Based on several nationwide surveys it conducted with California-based Knowledge Networks since June, as well as the results of other polls, PIPA found that 48 percent of the public believe US troops found evidence of close pre-war links between Iraq and the al-Qaeda terrorist group; 22 percent thought troops found weapons of mass destruction (WMD) in Iraq; and 25 percent believed that world public opinion favored Washington's going to war with Iraq. All three are misperceptions.


The report, "Misperceptions, the Media and the Iraq War," also found that the more misperceptions held by the respondent, the more likely it was that s/he both supported the war and depended on commercial television for news about it.


The study is likely to stoke a growing public and professional debate over why mainstream news media ? especially the broadcast media ? were not more skeptical about the Bush administration's pre-war claims, particularly regarding Saddam Hussein's WMD stockpiles and ties with al-Qaeda.

"This is a dangerously revealing study," said Marvin Kalb, a former television correspondent and a senior fellow of the Shorenstein Center on the Press, Politics and Public Policy at the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University.


While Kalb said he had some reservations about the specificity of the questions directed at the respondents, he noted that, "People who have had a strong belief that there is an unholy alliance between politics and the press now have more evidence." Fox, in particular, has been accused of pursuing a chauvinistic agenda in its news coverage despite its motto, "We report, you decide."


Overall, according to PIPA, 60 percent of the people surveyed held at least one of the three misperceptions through September. Thirty percent of respondents had none of those misperceptions.


Surprisingly, the percentage of people holding the misperceptions rose slightly over the last three months. In July, for example, polls found that 45 percent of the public believed U.S. forces had found "clear evidence in Iraq that Hussein was working closely with al Qaeda." In September, 49 percent believed that.


Likewise, those who believed troops had found WMD in Iraq jumped from 21 percent in July to 24 percent in September. One in five respondents said they believed that Iraq had actually used chemical or biological weapons during the war.


In determining what factors could create the misperceptions, PIPA considered a number of variables in the data.


It found a high correlation between respondents with the most misperceptions and their support for the decision to go to war. Only 23 percent of those who held none of the three misperceptions supported the war, while 53 percent who held one misperception did so. Of those who believe that both WMDs and evidence of al-Qaeda ties have been found in Iraq and that world opinion backed the United States, a whopping 86 percent said they supported war.


More specifically, among those who believed that Washington had found clear evidence of close ties between Hussein and al-Qaeda, two-thirds held the view that going to war was the best thing to do. Only 29 percent felt that way among those who did not believe that such evidence had been found.


Another factor that correlated closely with misperceptions about the war was party affiliation, with Republicans substantially "more likely" to hold misperceptions than Democrats. But support for Bush himself as expressed by whether or not the respondent said s/he intended to vote for him in 2004 appeared to be an even more critical factor.


The average frequency of misperceptions among respondents who planned to vote for Bush was 45 percent, while among those who plan to vote for a hypothetical Democrat candidate, the frequency averaged only 17 percent. Asked "Has the US found clear evidence Saddam Hussein was working closely with al Qaeda?" 68 percent of Bush supporters replied affirmatively. By contrast, two of every three Democrat-backers said no.


But news sources also accounted for major differences in misperceptions, according to PIPA, which asked more than 3,300 respondents since May where they "tended to get most of [their] news.'' Eighty percent identified broadcast media, while 19 percent cited print media.

Among those who said broadcast media, 30 percent said two or more networks; 18 percent, Fox News; 16 percent, CNN; 24 percent, the three big networks ? NBC (14 percent), ABC (11 percent), CBS (9 percent); and three percent, the two public networks, National Public Radio (NPR) and Public Broadcasting Service (PBS).


For each of the three misperceptions, the study found enormous differences between the viewers of Fox, who held the most misperceptions, and NPR/PBS, who held the fewest by far. Eighty percent of Fox viewers were found to hold at least one misperception, compared to 23 percent of NPR/PBS consumers. All the other media fell in between.


CBS ranked right behind Fox with a 71 percent score, while CNN and NBC tied as the best-performing commercial broadcast audience at 55 percent. Forty-seven percent of print media readers held at least one misperception.


As to the number of misconceptions held by their audiences, Fox far outscored all of its rivals. A whopping 45 percent of its viewers believed all three misperceptions, while the other commercial networks scored between 12 percent and 16 percent. Only nine percent of readers believed all three, while only four percent of the NPR/PBS audience did.


PIPA found that political affiliation and news source also compound one another. Thus, 78 percent of Bush supporters who watch Fox News said they thought the United States had found evidence of a direct link to al-Qaeda, while 50 percent of Bush supporters who rely on NPR/PBS thought so.


Conversely, 48 percent of Fox viewers who said they would support a Democrat believed that such evidence had been found. But none of the Democrat-backers who relied on NPR/PBS believed it. The study also debunked the notion that misperceptions were due mainly to the lack of exposure to news.


Among Bush supporters, those who said they follow the news "very closely", were found more likely to hold misperceptions. Those Bush supporters, on the other hand, who say they follow the news "somewhat closely" or "not closely at all" held fewer misperceptions. Conversely, those Democratic supporters who said they did not follow the news very closely were found to be twice as likely to hold misperceptions as those who said they did, according to PIPA.


Jim Lobe writes for the Inter Press Service, AlterNet.org, TomPaine.com, and Foreign Policy in Focus.

The roman empire fell... I hope the US is soon to follow. Then Britian can go back to whoring the power-stick.

I like watching some of their shows but if you believe the slogan "Fair And Balanced" that they splatter across the screen every five minutes then you need help, I consider it more of an entertainment channel than News. The difference in coverage and attitude in interviews depending on which political party the person supports is laughable.

Hell I dont even think the Arab world even cares or their own government.
If their government even cared they would have mandated better housing construction.
California gets an 6.5 and 2 people die, Iran its 5000. Survival of the fitest I guess.

LOL... how ignorant can people be???? You think the world started when the US of A got started ??/ Their McDonalds are not as well built as yours?? Or their latest Wal-Mart...

More like survival of the richest.

Maybe I should have read my response before I posted. And I'll take back the "survival of the fitest" comment as well. I was trying to say is that, although it is true that not many people in the US really care, I think it is even more tragic that I dont believe that the Irainian government or the Arab world cares either. This country spends alot money on things other then thier own people. And thats why so many people died and thats why no one cares. France, Russia and other contries are sending aid just to look like they care, but they obviously dont. My family is from a country in south america like that. I bet know one here knows that there was a earthquake some years ago down there that a entire town was wiped off the face of the earth. Thousands died. No one cares becuase the state didnt even care.

LOL the US TV told you about an earthquake????

Ask them, what fight was the night before. Smeone i know told me that they were fighting there at night, like a big new war started....

question....Fight???? against who??? or what????

The Earthquake Story is bullshit........

You're a fucking retard, but hey, at least you admit it. Letting an extremely biased right wing joke of a news station form opinions for you is funny to smart people.

It's called PBS, but you're too stupid to watch it. Saying "CNN is boring", basically sums up why your life is so pathetic. The news isn't supposed to entertain you, it's supposed to educate you, retard. Sorry but brainwashed jackasses like yourself are probably the biggest reason your country is so fucked up.

I see, brainwashed = not being a socialist.

"The reasons for the shocking attacks on the World Trade Centre Twin Towers and the Pentagon should be sought inside the US. The world's sole superpower and major military player should also learn to assess its domestic and foreign policies at regular intervals and not wait to do so when terror strikes and reality knocks. After the colossal damage had been done to American life and property on Tuesday, President George Bush pledged to bring those responsible to 'justice'. Justice these days is a very rare commodity."

Amin Sabooni
Iran Daily, IRAN"



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/1812199.stm




I feel bad for Iran, I really do...
Of COurse the United States will help them...

Well said

Americans do not forget. We are giving people, even when you burn our flags, arm terorist's and condone terrorist training facilities to hurt us.

Here is another piece of Fine Iranian Art.

Here is another fine piece of foreign politics of the USA:


The 1953 coup d'état was designed by the CIA


You probably are quite young ... history goes far back, way before Fox News...

Oh yeah...
That Martyr principal always comes into play...

The old guy we helped remove was all honest and just and we put in a criminal.

Yeah thats what we like to do...
Ever think that the people that gain power just turn into a dick and it makes everything easier to point at America and say we did it all...

C-mon...
You can be more innovative.

No, just that the USA always puts " dicks" in power... as long as he serves them well....

Read a bit, helps comprehension of the hatred directed to the USA and Brits in that region...

USA and Britts... funny, again the same...

To quote the late great Sam Kinnison: "YOU LIVE IN A FUCKING DESERT, MOVE TO WHERE THE FOOD IS!"

Your post is rewritten propaganda.
Winners write the History and that recording above just happens to be written by the winning team in Iran.

If you read into it more Iran wanted change, the Shah was actually not that bad. He was Coup'd as well by the exhisting leadership in Iran whom of course do the same things as he did. Oppress the media, kill students and educators and imprison those who question government authority.

So they are doing the same old bullshit as they did before but now have a scape goat...

They were praising Allah and saying "God is Great" when our buildings went down.
Now they need the worlds help as a natural disaster has taken place.

Which brings us here today...

Yup...
The check is in the mail Iran along with some Men and women to help you out.

Life is a symphonie of irony and the highest pitch is when nature lays down the cards and people begin to take dirt naps.

directfiesta:

You said it!

Now.. I'll repeat your quote for the shallow and the retards:

"Read a bit, helps comprehension of the hatred directed to the USA and Brits in that region..."

Now that's not true! I care!

It's fucked up how much loss of life there is..Some Country is testing a pretty new weapon I think

Ludedude:

I take it that you are not starving, - it obviously comes from a person who has not the slightest clue.

BTW.. try and look in your back yard and deal with the starving and homeless there. Then let immigration know of your opinion - they may like to know they are gonna be busy. Then send some funds to the starving to let em get an air flight booked!

bikinihouse:

Yea... some don't even have a mind to be "narrow" about - here's the source:

The usual glib smart ass meaningless crap about others of whom they have no knowledge.

Webbie Get off your chair yo...

I am glad your in with Iranian people and have sympathy.
Good for you.

Sympathy exhists here, sure its a terrible thing to happen to human beings.

But remember these are the same fuckers that give weapons to terrorist's, do not work with the international community and of course blame all there problems on the United States and Briton.



Stop being a pussy.

AlienQ:

If you are responding to a question raised by others about "Iranian Fuckers" - it was you who said it.

Yea??? :-) Just remember who instigated an overthrow of the democratically elected Iranian government and who supplied both chemical and bio weapons to Saddam to enable him to have a war with Iran. And now you are "complaining" about them???

What is sown, is what will be reaped.

i care

webair:

Most sane folks do.. it is only a matter of time before some other disaster hits and it may be them. Perhaps then, they will appreciate wiping away a load of junk preconceptions and get their shirt sleeves rolled up and dig us out of the rubble.

Tis a decent thing the US is actually going to be involved in the relief effort - tis possibly a start to some sanity in other areas.

Yup I am complaining its my tax dollars going to help them and if it were up to me not 1 fucken cent would be sent over.

But more importantly I am not a politician.
Politics and blood money tithes are not my thing. I am an observer and take that approach. "Iranian Fuckers" stands with me and any who think that government is fair to it's people.

Thats right, we gave weapons to Saddam to stop Iranian invasion. Do you remember the Suicide waves Iran did in Iraq?

Yup...
Iranian government sent Suicidal waves of people ( Human beings mind you ) into Iraq. Tens of thousands died. The Iranian government sent them to die... Tens of Thousands of people died trying to steal Iraq' Oil fields.

AlienQ:

Well.. you got an opinion... and I ain't got no comment, but to say if it was you who was under rubble, I'd be doing something.

That's my 2 "fucken cents" worth

Under Rubble?
I would be dead and it would not really matter to me would it?
Sending money and sending people are 2 diferent things.

We give money to help them it goes to the Iranian Government.

We send our American Personnel there to help and watch what happens.

Our Rescue Workers will be kidnapped or killed in a few instances.
That will be the next headlines to appear soon...

Watch.

AlienQ:

Yea yea... OK.. well leave ya for dead then cos it would not matter to you - would it??

Sheesh... I got better stuff to do!

Yeah like goto the other thread on your soap box?

Where did you see that USA ( or even other governments ) are sending money???
Is it your interpretation of the news or your personnal belief...

This , aside from my above post on the USA sending relief teams , is what the USA is doing ( and a big to them):


Yes, this is costing you money thru your tax dollars, but no money is going to the "Iranian Government" ...

The rest of your comments are pure speculation... and let me remind you that US personnel is kidnapped in most countries... ( Columbia, Guatemala, Pakistan, Saudia Arabia, Philipines, etc,..)

Well aint that just Bushes style...

Send em alot of drugs.

Al least this reply is funny

AlienQ:

The word asshole comes to mind... I've now got little doubt - all wind and loaded with preconceptions and hate for others. Thank hell the rest of your countrymen have more sense.

Peace out!

AlienQ:

More true than you probably realised!

The truth is somewhere in-between.

Of course, it's a terrible disaster on a human level.

But: Where did Arabia go wrong? In the antiquity, it was a hotbed for some of the finest scientists in the world. The Egyptians and their pyramids. The Phoenicians ruled the seas. Then came Islam and everything came to a standstill.

There is a reason why Iran is so backward. At least partly, they have to blame themselves. You can't just blame the Western world for everything that happens in the third world.

When ever you ready to come off your chair I got a helping hand!

I aint here trying to look better than everyone else by fracturing individual integrity. I am Not afraid to express how I think but I think it very funny that your willing to take someones opinion and look down upon them to make yourself be the self rightious authority.

Till then... Big peace to you as well.

LOL -- I love the 'world view'.

How many of you actually thought about the Iranian people one week ago?


Now I'm supposed to care.

At least I don't expect them to care... hell I didn't even care about 9/11.

It's all... and you all... are funny to me.

... I like the way you use the word "only". did you know this is "only" double the number of death at 9/11 ... so, can we say this is twice as bad ??