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And I agree he tried to break out of the formula. He always does that, but this time he just chose a weak story as the setting. I think the IDEA is good, but the STORY made it weak. The STORY of the 3 retards made it weak. The IDEA behind the STORY is pretty cool.
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Yeah, like I said in the other village thread, I personally can enjoy movies just for playing with interesting ideas - in spite of plot holes or other problems. But I understand when other people can't forgive / look past that. I just don't think this film should get a rep. as a total waste of time because it does have some redeeming qualities.
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Maybe it should have been more about the Walker family instead of involving so many characters. When you try to involve too many characters you need to spend time building them, and that takes time. I don't feel he spent enough time with them (all the characters that he introduced). We could have had more time with them if he had cut the dead boy in the beginning, and the dinner sequence right after that. It doesn't establish enough. So cut it out.
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I disagree there. I really don't give a shit about getting to know every minor character. That background-establishing that most movies start off with makes me want to fast forward. I can assume all those traditional family&friends relationships ... without having to sit through them. Unless there is something important there, skip it. Get to the ideas.
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Also... if HE is the one that got them there, WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T HE GO?!?!?!!?
He could have just said, "I'll go! I'll go challenge the creatures." and just gone and got the meds and that would have been that. We could have still had the plot twist at the end, and it would have made MORE sense!
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You're right - it didn't end up making sense. But, before it didn't make sense, I was beginning to wonder if he would turn out to be some sinister character who would dress up and try to murder his own daughter to protect the fantasy he'd created. Yeah, maybe that was the predictabe path to take, but it might have worked out better. I dunno... There was a good foundation which could have been taken in many interesting directions. I don't know if I like the one he chose.
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Go rent Ju-on, and Ju-on2 if you want creepy.
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yeah, been on my to-rent list for ages
- and you remind me that this scene ...
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I agree it was trippy when she goes behind the tree and it's just standing right there, and then when it leaps at her, (of course it was mostly the music) but the audience did get scared.
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.. sort of reminds me a bit of the elevator scene in The Eye.
- the 'standing there' tension ... knowing something terrifying is right behind you ... knowing it could grab you whenever it wants, at it's leisure ... you're already too close to hope it won't catch you .... I like that better than a chase.
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But here's a question... How could a retard that could barely sit still and could barely peace together sentences, "Bad color, bad color", steal a costume, (THAT'S MADE OF BAD COLOR) and break out of his "time out" room, sneak out of the village in broad daylight with the costume, and track a blind girl thru the woods, when he had NO IDEA which direction she was going in?
Pretty smart for a retard, don't you think?
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I really don't know what was supposed to be wrong with this guy. He wasn't your typical drooling retard ... It's possible that he wasn't supposed to to be low-IQ, just disturbed in some other manner ... but he didn't seem to have any clearly diagnosable disorder either. Maybe M. Night ignored this issue. ... but the role wasn't defined very well.
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But that's just how I feel about it. I would never tell someone NOT to see it, because we all have different views on movies.
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Yeah. I'm going to continue to argue it's at least worth a few dollars to see . . .
though, perhaps not after reading this spoiler thread.
and any money made in the 'horror' genre just encourages studios to greenlight more horror, which is what I want to see . . . it seemed like there was a shortage of funding for serious horror, until recently.