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Originally posted by CamChicks
I think everybody is being undeservedly harsh on this movie.
If it were some unheard of little indy 'horror' movie .. by an unheard of director .. that I just picked up on a whim at the video store ... I would have been really impressed.
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I disagree. I don't go to movies based on the director's previous work. I enjoyed the trailers and was hoping it would be a creepy movie. It was not. I was mislead, and that's what I didn't like. And then after watching it, I didn't think the story was as good as it could have been.
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Originally posted by CamChicks
Yeah, it didn't live up to the expectations set by his previous work .. but it's still far better than most of the rubbish on the shelves. So what if there's no mindbending twists? Most movies follow such a bland form that I'm grateful whenever one does anything a little different.
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I agree, there is a lot of shit out there. Add this one to the list. I wasn't expecting a mindbending twist. Not all films need a great twist. Can you imagine if "Life is Beautiful" had a twist?? The father goes behind the wall and instead of getting shot he comes out with the gun and shoots down all the nazi's ala Rambo style? Now THAT would be an unexpected twist.
And I agree he tried to break out of the formula. He always does that, but this time he just chose a weak story as the setting. I think the IDEA is good, but the STORY made it weak. The STORY of the 3 retards made it weak. The IDEA behind the STORY is pretty cool.
Maybe it should have been more about the Walker family instead of involving so many characters. When you try to involve too many characters you need to spend time building them, and that takes time. I don't feel he spent enough time with them (all the characters that he introduced). We could have had more time with them if he had cut the dead boy in the beginning, and the dinner sequence right after that. It doesn't establish enough. So cut it out.
I think it could have worked better if maybe the bling girl was the one that had been injured and William Hurt would have more motive to send someone out of the village.
Also... if HE is the one that got them there, WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T HE GO?!?!?!!?
He could have just said, "I'll go! I'll go challenge the creatures." and just gone and got the meds and that would have been that. We could have still had the plot twist at the end, and it would have made MORE sense!
That is just the beginning of the holes I mentioned.
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Originally posted by CamChicks
And, since this is the spoiler thread, I thought the scene where the (supposed) 'real monster' finds her in the woods was one of the creepiest/scariest scenes in recent memory. I can't say why.. it just was for me, at the time, while I was sitting there.
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Go rent Ju-on, and Ju-on2 if you want creepy.
I agree it was trippy when she goes behind the tree and it's just standing right there, and then when it leaps at her, (of course it was mostly the music) but the audience did get scared.
But here's a question... How could a retard that could barely sit still and could barely peace together sentences, "Bad color, bad color", steal a costume, (THAT'S MADE OF BAD COLOR) and break out of his "time out" room, sneak out of the village in broad daylight with the costume, and track a blind girl thru the woods, when he had NO IDEA which direction she was going in?
Pretty smart for a retard, don't you think?
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Originally posted by CamChicks
And the whole audience gasped when the retard withdrew the knife from Joaquin Phoenix's gut.
It was just so out-of-the-ordinary to remove the main character mid-movie ... with no lead-up. .. you're waiting for the movie to get to the point where he finally ventures off into the woods to face <whatever> and then BAM! - he's knocked out of the whole story. I think that's a fucking brilliant thing to do.
- it may not be witty, but it's ballsy.
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In an ensamble piece there is no main character. However yeah I agree, where the fuck did that come from?? See what I mean, about the story is weak it has no motivation. The IDEA is good the STORY is weak.
You're right it's not witty it's ballsy and it didn't work. It seemed VERY forced. Like he needed to somehow get the girl to the edge of the preserve so he could have that plot twist and didn't know how to get her out there, so they just said "fuck it let's just make this retard stab that retard. We'll use a rectracting knife, which we haven't seen those for a few years, so people won't be expecting it, and we'll show the knife go in and out and they'll be so shocked they won't even question why we did it."
But that's just how I feel about it. I would never tell someone NOT to see it, because we all have different views on movies.