Originally posted by SoundMan
bush has 51% controlling stock in Acacia.
bush has 51% controlling stock in Acacia.
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Threads could have been closed if there was a concernOriginally posted by BradShaw
Meni will crush acacia!
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Originally posted by Honeyslut
Threads could have been closed if there was a concern
Postings of any anti-acacia sentiment is not why acacia would have targeted adult.com
Any chance they have video on any one of their properties?
There's your reason.
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Originally posted by Honeyslut about Bush owning 51% of acacia
and what reliable source does that come from ?
I posted earler that this person has it all wrong, it's Cheney that has the 51% ownership!
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Do you own Acacia stock? You've made a number of posts about the stock price possibly going up in the past.Originally posted by GirlsFreePics
FTP you missed one, and this is a biggie, watch the stock start the climb now.
It is up a pathetic 2% today, which is well within the usual fluctuation.Comment
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Hustler has JennaXXX. I think she broke off and did Club Jenna on her own.Comment
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mr. fiction.. it took a while for the court docs to be updated... sorry for the delay.. beyond my control
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yes, we should report GFP to the SEC.ICQ: 37378183Comment
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I thought maybe you were just busy fighting with some of the geniuses over on the Yahoo board.Originally posted by FightThisPatent
mr. fiction.. it took a while for the court docs to be updated... sorry for the delay.. beyond my control
I still strongly believe that IMPA needs to get some press releases out there so that investors know both sides and to make sure that people being threatened know there are options other than signing.Comment
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Originally posted by NBDesign
Isn't Club Jenna part of Hustler? and didn't they already settle? or was I misreading something in another post?
Hi,
ClubJenna.com is owned by CJI Digital
which is Jenna and Jay's corp
Hustler and clubjenna put out jennaxxx.com
that must be what you are thinking about
as for the lawsuit
I think we are fine
I'm not the webmaster
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I spoke to Jay today
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Originally posted by slapass
Hustler has JennaXXX. I think she broke off and did Club Jenna on her own.
To clarify, Clubjenna has been around for 3 years
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As posted earlier in this thread: if Adult.com settles, would you people still frequent this board?Comment
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Has Acacia sued Playboy yet?Comment
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Acacia is getting good advice, I am sure they have some "consultants" helping out a lot, giving them inside information about the industry.
I bet that at least 5 of the 6 will settle.
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Originally posted by SoundMan
bush has 51% controlling stock in Acacia.
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Has Acacia sued any of the big media outlets yet? I'd like to see them go up against Rupert Murdoch... He still alive?Comment
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Originally posted by V_RocKs
I'd like to see them go up against Rupert Murdoch... He still alive?
Or maybe they have him propped up like 'weekend at bernies'
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Originally posted by SoundMan
bush has 51% controlling stock in Acacia.
Here's one for you conspiracy theorists.... what if Acacia donated money to Bush's re-election campaign...and this DMT patent is being used to further Bush's agenda?
Berman said in many articles that the Adult Industry was not singled out.. "someone had to be first"... is what many have said...
But let's see.. class action lawsuit proposal for Adult Industry companies...
so...people who have digitized audio/video that is sex related is different than say a video clip seen on some mainstream website?
Shouldn't EVERY website that has audio/video be thrown into one mother-of-all-class-action lawsuit?
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Originally posted by FightThisPatent
Here's one for you conspiracy theorists.... what if Acacia donated money to Bush's re-election campaign...and this DMT patent is being used to further Bush's agenda?
Berman said in many articles that the Adult Industry was not singled out.. "someone had to be first"... is what many have said...
But let's see.. class action lawsuit proposal for Adult Industry companies...
so...people who have digitized audio/video that is sex related is different than say a video clip seen on some mainstream website?
Shouldn't EVERY website that has audio/video be thrown into one mother-of-all-class-action lawsuit?
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FTP I have agreed with most of your posistions, but pandering to the anti-Bush crowd with stupid conspiracies is beneath you and serves no purpose.
The reason Acacia went after adult is the fact they thought we would not fight, and it would be easier to win agains "evil pornographers" with a judge and jury.
I thought you were trying to clear up rumors, and get the facts out, not start stupid conspiracy theories!
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Originally posted by Mike AI
I thought you were trying to clear up rumors, and get the facts out, not start stupid conspiracy theories!
you thought i was serious?
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The webpower one should be very interesting...
I think what happens with webpower will be an indication of the future.
Webpower IS video streaming, billing about $250k a day...Comment
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I KNOW you are not serious, but this is GFY.... lot of people beleive all kinds of foolish things.Originally posted by FightThisPatent
you thought i was serious?
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I have already seen a few posts responding the Bush owning 51%....
Do not want to end up like the boy who cried wolf....
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Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Acacia's patent on prerecorded only? I know webpower has some prerecorded video's but it is by far not what makes them the most money.Originally posted by bugout
The webpower one should be very interesting...
I think what happens with webpower will be an indication of the future.
Webpower IS video streaming, billing about $250k a day...
With the list of companies on this hit list I would say this is going to be a big one in how this whole Acacia thing swings. There is some fighting power in those companies alone, much less combined. Let's just hope they decide to fight to the death.
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I'm no expert either, but I'm under the assumption that their "patent" covers all forms of video streaming, live or not.Originally posted by stocktrader23
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Acacia's patent on prerecorded only? I know webpower has some prerecorded video's but it is by far not what makes them the most money.
With the list of companies on this hit list I would say this is going to be a big one in how this whole Acacia thing swings. There is some fighting power in those companies alone, much less combined. Let's just hope they decide to fight to the death.
Hustler has some seriously deep pockets and settled, which kind of worries me about webpower... Who knows anymore..Comment
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Acacia's advertised terms would put a serious hurt on webpowers profit margins. You have to figure, they gross a shitload but also pay high $$$ to webmasters and half to the girls. On some add on stuff for cam girls they pay out 80 to 90% I believe. No fucking way they are going to volunteer to pay a percentage of gross on that. I'm hoping Acacia just put the nail in their own coffin with this list of defendants.Originally posted by bugout
I'm no expert either, but I'm under the assumption that their "patent" covers all forms of video streaming, live or not.
Hustler has some seriously deep pockets and settled, which kind of worries me about webpower... Who knows anymore..
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If you read the history of Acacia I'm pretty sure Rupert Murdoch,Originally posted by V_RocKs
Has Acacia sued any of the big media outlets yet? I'd like to see them go up against Rupert Murdoch... He still alive?
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Originally posted by stocktrader23
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Acacia's patent on prerecorded only?
yes...pre-recorded only ..
patent does not cover live streaming stuff.
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Originally posted by Dirty_DS
who is cybernet I forget
translator:
Orgasm.com
Webpower Inc. = Click Cash
Cybernet Ventures = Adult Check
Global AVS = ProAdult
ICS Inc. = adult.com
National A-1 Advert =
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... isn't that what we thought when they took on hustler ??Originally posted by stocktrader23
... I'm hoping Acacia just put the nail in their own coffin with this list of defendants.
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Hustler didn't make it to court. They filed a lawsuit and I am assuming they are going after the full amount they originally asked of everyone.Originally posted by berg.the.red
... isn't that what we thought when they took on hustler ??
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Haha, that settles it. I'm starting a new video site but I'm going to be broadcasting live airings of pre-recorded videos.Originally posted by FightThisPatent
yes...pre-recorded only ..
patent does not cover live streaming stuff.
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Originally posted by stocktrader23
Hustler didn't make it to court. They filed a lawsuit and I am assuming they are going after the full amount they originally asked of everyone.
In addition to the whatever the new licensing fees are, since the introductory rate has expired, get a load of this "administrative fee:
from: http://www.avnonline.com/issues/2003...122203_3.shtml
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And if you order now, we'll double your order and give you 2 licenses for the price of 1. We'll even throw in a bread cutting knife...industructible and will stay sharper longer than our patent's life.
By ordering now, you get the lower administrative fee, the extra license (to give to a friend who we haven't contacted), the bread knife and our world famous no-refund-upon-patent-invalidation policy..... call now..
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Originally posted by stocktrader23
Haha, that settles it. I'm starting a new video site but I'm going to be broadcasting live airings of pre-recorded videos.
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A lawsuit would be an indication that the companies were unresponsive to Acacia's original licensing threats/requests. I'm very interested to see what happens with Webpower as well.
They have infinitely more money than Acacia, and there is no way they will go for the licensing fee based on gross sales.Comment
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Probably right Donnie.
Webpower's license fee would probably run in the mid-high 6 figures.
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Webpower does about $20mil/month gross. That's higher than mid six figures.Comment
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For those that don't know - clickcash = iFriendsOriginally posted by FightThisPatent
translator:
Orgasm.com
Webpower Inc. = Click Cash
Cybernet Ventures = Adult Check
Global AVS = ProAdult
ICS Inc. = adult.com
National A-1 Advert =
singles.com, sextoys.com , girls.com , guys.com , ladies.com, slaves.com , celebrities.com, cash.com
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For a company with patents on such cool technology, you'd think their website would be way cooler.Comment
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Right now, while everyone is getting their panties in a wad over this, offshore hosting business models are being devised that are outside the reach of any acacia patent.
You will see this solution in the coming months.Comment
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models are being devised that are outside the reach of any acacia patent...
Do these "models" also cover getting any American citizen that uses them, new citizenship to another country? As long as someone holds US papers they are liable to US law.<center><a target="_blank" href="http://dev.datedollars.com/index.php?s=signup&aid=535&cfg=aac"><img border="0" src="http://216.130.172.224/gfy/gsig.gif" width="490" height="100"></a><br><a href="http://dev.datedollars.com/index.php?s=signup&aid=535&cfg=aac" target="_blank"><b><font face="Arial"><font color="#FF99FF"> Buy me away from Slavedriver Smokey!<br>It's May Sig Sweeps!<font></b></center>Comment
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This is true of individuals but not always of corporations based in another country.Originally posted by Gemini
models are being devised that are outside the reach of any acacia patent...
Do these "models" also cover getting any American citizen that uses them, new citizenship to another country? As long as someone holds US papers they are liable to US law.
If you are an American and you own stock in a company based in the EU, you will not get into trouble if that company breaks the laws or regulations of the U.S. In fact, most U.S. companies do not follow the laws of every other country in the world.
There are exceptions where you could get into trouble, but those are usually when the U.S. government really wants to make an example of someone, and Acacia is not the U.S. government.Comment
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The same was said about LFP and others.Originally posted by shepherd
They definitely taking on the wrong people. National A-1 can and probably will get the best lawyers in the biz to fight this.
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Speculatively, I wouldn't be surprised if the LFD deal wasn't a stock scam. They didn't put up a fight, their licensing fees are nothing, and the stock rose greatly on the news. I'm sure anyone who knew about this deal before it was announced could have made a killing..Originally posted by goBigtime
The same was said about LFP and others.
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people would say the same about Hustler etc.... they bowed down.. who says these others wont?Originally posted by shepherd
They definitely taking on the wrong people. National A-1 can and probably will get the best lawyers in the biz to fight this.Crypto HODLr
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... great news, get some more shares !!!Originally posted by FightThisPatent
Court documents were filed on 12/18 against Club Jenna Inc. by Acacia.
Additional lawsuits filed against:
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Webpower Inc.
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Global AVS
ICS Inc.
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hustler didnt bow down they welcomed acacia with open arms for business reasons.
They have 20 times the money of all the impai defendents combined. Im sure they could have put up a defense.Ever notice that pretty much everything added to the Constitution after the original was a mistake.Comment
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Why should they?Originally posted by rooster
hustler didnt bow down they welcomed acacia with open arms for business reasons.
They have 20 times the money of all the impai defendents combined. Im sure they could have put up a defense.
Are affiliates leaving them in droves, are boards refusing to take their ads, how have they suffered by signing?
You are relying on a business man to do what is morally right, when the easy option is financially right. Make the signing of a license finacially bad and they will think twice.
Who here has stopped doing business with a licensee?Comment
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