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  • FightThisPatent
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    • Aug 2003
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    #1

    Acacia sues Club Jenna

    Court documents were filed on 12/18 against Club Jenna Inc. by Acacia.



    Additional lawsuits filed against:

    Orgasm.com
    Webpower Inc.
    Cybernet Ventures
    Global AVS
    ICS Inc.
    National A-1 Advert



    In addition, Acacia is proposing to the judge to allow for 2 class action lawsuits that cover the entire adult industry.

    At InterNext, on Jan 5th (monday) at 4pm, Spike, Gregory Clayman, and I will be discussing how patents affect businesses and what can businesses do.


    This should really get interesting.



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  • Krome
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    #2
    National A-1 Advert - What is this just an advert where they used streaming video? Sorry for being stupid but I am....

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    • Theo
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      #3
      Originally posted by FightThisPatent

      Additional lawsuits filed against:
      Webpower Inc.

      i think this can be officially the end of acacia


      Is Meni still the webmaster of clubjenna?

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      • FightThisPatent
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        #4
        Originally posted by Krome
        National A-1 Advert - What is this just an advert where they used streaming video? Sorry for being stupid but I am....

        Doing a quick search, they run free.com

        based in Philly.

        Not sure if they have an adult side to them...anyone know if they do?



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        • shepherd
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          #5
          They definitely taking on the wrong people. National A-1 can and probably will get the best lawyers in the biz to fight this.

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          • Gemini
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            #6
            Just going on 'advert'... it sounds like they're going to try and go after hyperlinks now. rotfl

            And now they got General Dynamics which makes lots of military things, odds are ol Dubya is going to be ticced that one of his toy factories is being messed with.
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            • FightThisPatent
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              #7
              Originally posted by shepherd
              They definitely taking on the wrong people. National A-1 can and probably will get the best lawyers in the biz to fight this.
              what sites do they run?



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              • shepherd
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                #8
                Not sure if they have an adult side to them...anyone know if they do?
                They own one of the best, if not the best domain portfolios on the web.
                singles.com, sextoys.com , girls.com , guys.com , ladies.com, slaves.com , celebrities.com, cash.com and hundreds of other top names.

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                • FightThisPatent
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Gemini

                  And now they got General Dynamics

                  I can see why: http://www.gdc4s.com/PressReleases/G...s_10-29-02.htm


                  They are into Video on Demand.



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                  • slapass
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                    #10
                    Cash.com is an adult program.

                    The other names are big! and isn't ICS the owner of this board?

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                    • steffie
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                      #11
                      Realisticly here it comes

                      Nobody of those guys is going to fight them, they are going to settle for yearly contracts of a lower number so Acacia can put them on their DONE list.

                      Its cheaper to pay 10k per year for a license fee than pay 1 Mil. to fight a Patent
                      Partying since '96 and not going anywhere Anna's Dorm

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                      • shepherd
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                        #12
                        Cash.com is an adult program
                        Yup, it's their adult program..

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                        • twistyneck
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by slapass
                          Cash.com is an adult program.

                          The other names are big! and isn't ICS the owner of this board?
                          Yes. I think so anyway.

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                          • rooster
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                            #14
                            be interesting what some of these companies getting sued now do. Even though acacia says the introductory rates are gone, I think some of these big ones will still be given sweethearts as a last ditch effort to try and seem credible.
                            Ever notice that pretty much everything added to the Constitution after the original was a mistake.

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                            • FightThisPatent
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by steffie

                              Its cheaper to pay 10k per year for a license fee than pay 1 Mil. to fight a Patent


                              A company doesn't have to shoulder the financial burden of fighting alone.... there is a Defense Fund of the CURRENT 11 defendants to pool their money.

                              No company should think they have to fight alone...that is the part of the intimidation being put out to convince webmasters to settle.

                              The CURRENT defendants will start their court proceedings on Feb 6th.

                              I am sure these new defendants have already contacted Spike to learn how they can join their Defense Fund, and be able to defend their companies as well as all other webmasters, by banding together as a united front.


                              No man is an island, and neither are companies.



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                              • Paul Markham
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                                #16
                                Well it depends if these guys join the fight or weazle out like Hustler did.

                                We either fight Acacia to the finish or you can bet Acacia will squeeze as much money as they can out of us. Then they walk away with a fat profit and the next firm of patent lawyers come knocking on our doors. Will those fighting today, want to fight again?

                                Remember Acacia are trying to make a profit not protect a patent, they do not stream video or audio nor offer any product connected with streaming. It's about making a profit and if we let them this will all happen again.

                                Support the licensees and you send money to Acacia,



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                                • FightThisPatent
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by rooster
                                  Even though acacia says the introductory rates are gone, I think some of these big ones will still be given sweethearts as a last ditch effort to try and seem credible.


                                  Sooner or later they need to start making money and stop giving away sweetheart deals.

                                  Hustler's licensing money wasn't part of the $186,000 collected in third quarter as some acacia cheerleaders have stated.

                                  Given that Hustler's internet side makes about $1.3M/month and has non-internet revenue streams of Video on Demand, you would think it me a large spike in revenue for Acacia n 4Q.. but most likely it will be peanuts.

                                  Also remember.....Acacia's DMT patent is not ONLY specific to internet downloads of audio and video.

                                  It also applies to satellite and cable for Video on Demand.. so for all those video based companies that think they are clear of Acacia because they don;t do any internet-based streaming, you are mistaken.



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                                  • twistyneck
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by charly
                                    Support the licensees and you send money to Acacia,
                                    Exactly. I wish the fucking pinheads on this board would get the message not to do business with anyone that capitulated to Acacia's demands.

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                                    • Theo
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                                      #19
                                      One of the things acacia has achived is to convince many that you need $1mil or other crazy amounts to fight their patent. Reality is far away and every middle size company has the funds to protect their interests.

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                                      • Paul Markham
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by steffie
                                        Realisticly here it comes

                                        Nobody of those guys is going to fight them, they are going to settle for yearly contracts of a lower number so Acacia can put them on their DONE list.

                                        Its cheaper to pay 10k per year for a license fee than pay 1 Mil. to fight a Patent
                                        If my Auction site works we can pay all the defense costs.

                                        If we boycott the licensees they will have to stand with us.

                                        Acacia are a pip squeak company that somehow have managed to seperate us.

                                        Devide and conquer or United we Win?



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                                        • SoundMan
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                                          #21
                                          bush has 51% controlling stock in Acacia.

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                                          • Sharpie
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                                            #22
                                            I don't see how they can lump the whole adult industry into these two classes...... there is two much deversity and size difference.

                                            Are they trying to lump the TGP owners that they scared to death with letters into one of these categories? or have they decided to leave them out?

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                                            • FightThisPatent
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by FightThisPatent
                                              Additional lawsuits filed against:


                                              ICS Inc.



                                              Site Content and Design Copyright 1997-2002 ICS, Inc.
                                              ADULT.COM is a Trademark of ICS, Inc.



                                              Now Acacia has gone and done it...

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                                              • rooster
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                                                #24
                                                heh, so if ics signs will you all stay on the board
                                                Ever notice that pretty much everything added to the Constitution after the original was a mistake.

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                                                • FightThisPatent
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                                                  every middle size company has the funds to protect their interests.

                                                  I talked to some mainstream companies, and buying into the Defense Fund for $35K was far more expensive than paying for the bag of peanuts as their licensing fee.

                                                  It is "cheaper to keep her"... that's what businesses who are in the startup phase, or making modest revenue are faced with.

                                                  I have talked to many that have signed because they had no other choice.

                                                  Hopefully with these new lawsuits, some additional big guns will now get involved and we can get this smackdown moving along.



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                                                  • FightThisPatent
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by rooster
                                                    heh, so if ics signs will you all stay on the board

                                                    Imagine Acacia using a link spider to grab all the links in sigs, do an automated WHOIS lookup and fire off junk mail and spam.

                                                    I'll let you know when i get one





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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by SoundMan
                                                      bush has 51% controlling stock in Acacia.

                                                      Your information is incorrect, it's Cheney.



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                                                      • FightThisPatent
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                                                        #28
                                                        AVn article from the 22nd about proposed class action lawsuit by Acacia against the adult industry:

                                                        http://www.avnonline.com/issues/2003...122203_3.shtml




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                                                        • NBDesign
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                                                          #29
                                                          Isn't Club Jenna part of Hustler? and didn't they already settle? or was I misreading something in another post?

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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Krome
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                                                            • Mikey_219Inc
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by charly
                                                              If my Auction site works we can pay all the defense costs.

                                                              If we boycott the licensees they will have to stand with us.

                                                              Acacia are a pip squeak company that somehow have managed to seperate us.

                                                              Devide and conquer or United we Win?
                                                              Im far too busy right now, but someone must make a list of those who caved, or took sweetheart deals, and then have webmasters who agree not to promote them post their intentions not to promote any companies who cave ... companies need to know that if they cave, they are going down the shitter ... and webmasters, you need to care about this. I will help organize or host this list, or whatever i can do to help it, i just am buried and cant get the ball rolling on it. I think it would be a good idea however to not send your traffic to programs that are funding extorcia, and furthermore to pressure these high profile companies to take a stand.

                                                              Let him who hath understanding reckon the WISDOM of the TOOF!

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                                                              • FightThisPatent
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                                                                #32
                                                                translator:

                                                                Orgasm.com

                                                                Webpower Inc. = Click Cash

                                                                Cybernet Ventures = Adult Check

                                                                Global AVS = ProAdult

                                                                ICS Inc. = adult.com

                                                                National A-1 Advert =
                                                                singles.com, sextoys.com , girls.com , guys.com , ladies.com, slaves.com , celebrities.com, cash.com



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                                                                • FightThisPatent
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by NBDesign
                                                                  Isn't Club Jenna part of Hustler? and didn't they already settle? or was I misreading something in another post?

                                                                  The court docket shows Club Jenna Inc.

                                                                  The company may have a close connection to Hustler, but they are an independent company.


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                                                                  • KRL
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Krome
                                                                    National A-1 Advert - What is this just an advert where they used streaming video? Sorry for being stupid but I am....
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                                                                    • Kick Ass Chat
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      FTP you missed one, and this is a biggie, watch the stock start the climb now.


                                                                      Acacia Technologies Licenses Digital Media Transmission Technology to General Dynamics Interactive Corporation

                                                                      NEWPORT BEACH, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--12/24/2003--Acacia Research Corporation (Nasdaq:ACTG)(Nasdaq:CBMX) announced today that its Acacia Technologies group has entered into a License Agreement for its Digital Media Transmission ("DMT") technology with General Dynamics Interactive Corporation.

                                                                      General Dynamics Interactive Corporation's Intrigue(R) Multimedia System delivers digital video-on-demand and high speed Internet access to the lodging industry throughout the world.

                                                                      Acacia has now entered into 110 license agreements for its DMT technology with companies in the hotel in-room entertainment, e-learning, and online music, movie, and adult entertainment industries.

                                                                      ABOUT ACACIA RESEARCH CORPORATION

                                                                      Acacia Research Corporation comprises two operating groups, Acacia Technologies Group and CombiMatrix Group.

                                                                      The Acacia Technologies group licenses its DMT technology to media and electronics companies. The DMT technology covers the transmission and receipt of digital audio and digital video content, commonly known as audio on-demand, video on-demand, and audio/video streaming, and is supported by 5 U.S. and 17 international patents.
                                                                      [email protected]

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                                                                      • Trax
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        thats a nice list

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                                                                        • magnatique
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by NBDesign
                                                                          Isn't Club Jenna part of Hustler? and didn't they already settle? or was I misreading something in another post?
                                                                          I am almost certain club jenna is jenna's hehe... she's one of the best business person this industry has... she's the shit :D

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                                                                            #38
                                                                            STOP FUCKIN' US!!

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                                                                            high design. high creative. adultcreative

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                                                                            • FightThisPatent
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by GirlsFreePics
                                                                              FTP you missed one, and this is a biggie, watch the stock start the climb now.



                                                                              General Dynamics Interactive settled.. they are not named in a lawsuit...


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                                                                              • twistyneck
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by FightThisPatent
                                                                                AVn article from the 22nd about proposed class action lawsuit by Acacia against the adult industry:

                                                                                http://www.avnonline.com/issues/2003...122203_3.shtml




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                                                                                I like this part...

                                                                                That contract administration fee - which a licensee will be required to pay only once - will be $500 for the entire month of January 2004. From Feb. 1-29, it will be $750; from March 1-31, $1,000; from April 1-30, $1,250; from May 1-31, $1,500; from June 1-30, $1,750; and, from July 1-31, $2,000.

                                                                                They can kiss my fat ass.

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                                                                                • NBDesign
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by magnatique


                                                                                  I am almost certain club jenna is jenna's hehe... she's one of the best business person this industry has... she's the shit :D
                                                                                  I promote club Jenna on erotic skins and thumb whore and the stats for that site are with my hustler stats.

                                                                                  Makes you think....

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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    interesting page

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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by ChewbaCreative

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                                                                                      That's not creative to copy my tag line



                                                                                      Maybe I should file a patent on the process of signing a message/post with a one-liner that reflects back to the text/context of the message.



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                                                                                      • FightThisPatent
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by NBDesign
                                                                                        I promote club Jenna on erotic skins and thumb whore and the stats for that site are with my hustler stats.

                                                                                        Makes you think....


                                                                                        It makes you think that the same people who decided to settle, than fight, will influence Club Jenna's decision on what to do.



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                                                                                        • NBDesign
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          I hate law suits... I just lost mine against the local chamber for not paying me... but my attorney was an IDIOT. He NEVER argued intelectual property, all he stressed was I did the work and did not get paid... so the judge (another hick, the fucking courtroom is in a strip mall) ruled he said/she said.

                                                                                          On the plus side, he also ruled we each pay our own legal bills... so at least I don't have to pay their legal bills too.

                                                                                          I have to appeal this... did the intelectual property laws change in the last year? I mean I created the artwork for the site.. it is mine right? especially if they never paid me.

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                                                                                          • Mikey_219Inc
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            allright, who has settled so far, can we come up with a complete list here?
                                                                                            Let him who hath understanding reckon the WISDOM of the TOOF!

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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Krome
                                                                                              National A-1 Advert - What is this just an advert where they used streaming video? Sorry for being stupid but I am....
                                                                                              National A-1 Is pretty big they own spanking.com enema.com and several other high profile big name domains. dont really know much about them just know they run some large websites.

                                                                                              O'well In anycase Acacia can eat a cock before they ever see a single dime from this extortion from me. I will remove every movie I have all off all of my websites first. FUCK THEM!
                                                                                              cat cash* | tr -d '\r' | tr -s '/n' > money

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                                                                                                • Oct 2001
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Meni will crush acacia!

                                                                                                As for ICS, no real surprise after some of the plain ass stupid stuff posted on this forum, that they target Lens. Will be interesting to see how many settle.
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                                                                                                • twistyneck
                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                                  • 4660

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by - AFN -
                                                                                                  O'well In anycase Acacia can eat a cock before they ever see a single dime from this extortion from me. I will remove every movie I have all off all of my websites first. FUCK THEM!
                                                                                                  Take them off? Screw that. Be a man and fight them. If you take them off they win. Sort of like cancelling a vacation because you are afraid of terrorists.

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                                                                                                  • smproduction
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Jan 2003
                                                                                                    • 508

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by SoundMan
                                                                                                    bush has 51% controlling stock in Acacia.

                                                                                                    I hope it is a joke
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