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Originally posted by bringer
the same could be said about democrats.
true....
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Save the money if Bush wins you will need it live on.Originally posted by herbal logic
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Originally posted by Mr. Mojo Risin
yeah I know a lot of people who voted for Bush, but won't again...
but there's a lot of people that are staunch conservatives and will
defend the Republican candidate no matter how bad he/she is.
I've met a few of those old timers though who are in their 50's/60's now and have been registered republicans their whole voting life who are going to vote for the other team this time around...
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yeah I know a lot of people who voted for Bush, but won't again...
but there's a lot of people that are staunch conservatives and will
defend the Republican candidate no matter how bad he/she is.
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Voting for Bush after this term is like begging to be raped again.
It's like when a victim sympathizes with their rapist or their captor when they are held against their will. They eventually develop unnatural sympathetic feelings toward the criminal.
Bush would piss all over your face if it meant that he could continue to run America in secret!
I hate to also be the one to reveal the fact that Bush would cut your heart out with a spork if it meant four more years for him. Now vote for him you simple minded renob.Comment
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I'm not American but listening to Kerry's speech I have to say it was GREAT
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Originally posted by Kevin2
I'm not American but listening to Kerry's speech I have to say it was GREAT
Bush saw your post and he now believes that Australia might have WMD. He is going to invade . . . I hope you understand! America can't fight terrorism without knocking out countries like Australia.
Go buy a helmet and get in your bomb shelter . . . here we come!!!!Comment
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Mort Konracke (sp?) one of the "Beltway Boys" on Fox News (home of fair & balanced!Originally posted by TheJimmy
have hope, I think that religious radical we have in office is a goner...
I seem to run across more ex-republicans every day in the offline world...and I live in a very conservative neighborhood...
) even said: "I've not met one person that voted for Gore in the last election that is going to vote for Bush in this one. However, I've talked to many who voted for Bush in the last election and WILL NOT vote for him this time."
I was stunned that Fox News allowed this to air.
Of course Konracke was taken out behind the building shortly thereafter and shot.
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actually I think he is saying that our health care is going to improve by allowing everyone to go to Canada to buy their drugs . . . great planOriginally posted by tony404
My pleasure to explain it to you. Right now old people are buying drugs in canada which is not really allowed but they do it because medicare is so expensive.
Sharpton was talking about that . Right now you really do nt have the option to buy drugs from Canada he will change that so all americans can do that. So if you are paying alot of money from drugs you will have the canada option , while old people wont have to do that because medicare will get better drug deals instead of the bullshit they just got.Comment
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"I want an America that relies on its own ingenuity and innovation, not the Saudi royal family."
That was a wicked burn.
Wanna bet Dubya will find some way to dodge the debates?
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Thats one my favorite parts. Lets bring back jobs to America but go to Canada for your meds.Originally posted by baddog
Okay. . . . someone please explain this to me . . . .
Our health care plan for a stronger America cracks down on the waste, greed, and abuse in our health care system and will save families up to $1,000 a year on their premiums. You'll get to pick your own doctor and patients and doctors, not insurance company bureaucrats, will make medical decisions. Under our plan, Medicare will negotiate lower drug prices for seniors. And all Americans will be able to buy less expensive prescription drugs from countries like Canada.
Didn't Sharpton just complain last night that seniors were being forced to go to Canada to get their meds?
Takes the advantages of being wealthy away. Dont the wealthy create jobs? I cant afford to create a job for someone. Since I cant afford to hire someone here in the States so I think I'll send my business to india.Comment
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Yeah, the end of the internal combustion engine . . . . that will be enough to keep me from voting for himOriginally posted by titmowse
"I want an America that relies on its own ingenuity and innovation, not the Saudi royal family."
That was a wicked burn.
Wanna bet Dubya will find some way to dodge the debates?
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i love these fireworks displays.
there are kids without desks but let there be no fucking campaign without 300k worth of fireworks, (oprobably WAY MORE than 300k)
amazing.
and they want you to think america loves its children.
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boneprone = pricelessOriginally posted by boneprone
i fucked em
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I thought it was a terrific political speech, even Pat Buchanan said so. He exceeded expectations but did more than that.
I think alot of people, including myself, who were simply anti-Bush before tonight, became pro-Kerry.
He was forceful, playful at times, projected strength and seemed, well, "presidential", like a statesman. He made excellent points about the flag and patriotism, religion, oil and even went after Ashie
He came into his own tonight and took full control of the Democratic party, effectively ending the Clinton era.
Overall, I thought he did what he had to do and much, much more.
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to every season turn turn turn...Originally posted by baddog
Yeah, the end of the internal combustion engine . . . . that will be enough to keep me from voting for him
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Kerry showed tonight that he is beginning to gain confidence in his role. Just wait until the debates, he is going to tear Bush apart and make him look like a child. Kerry will win in a landslide.Comment
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Do we really have a choice? (Kerry is worse than Bush, Bush is worse than Kerry, etc, etc, etc). Well we only got 2 choices and we either choose one or let Bush & his prick brother down in florida click the chads for us again.. Personally I plan to choose someone NEW.. we already know the one we got is a little angry prick who makes very poor decisions.
What kerry had to say might be bullshit (who knows) but I gotta tell you guys, for about 10 minutes it really felt great to be an american again.. I never liked the look of Kerry, he has a plastic almost fake look about him and we all know bush is a war mongering idiot with the IQ of the average house plant. I almost dont care how Kerry does, he can't possibly do any worse that what ole idiot bush has done.
Anyone going to watch the Sho-time special? I think its called "American President" or some shit like that.. I plan to be a weekly viewer of that shit.. just might get a REAL (person) president out of the deal.. We'll see.. I'm optimistic about it so far..
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As someone who leans republican, I have to say that Kerry gave a pretty good speech. He said everything he needed to say and he came off looking like he would be strong on terrorism should he be elected.
Unfortunately, he did the same thing that most democrats do: he promised us the moon but didn't tell us how much it is going to cost us in the end. He said we should increase defense spending, that we should not privatize social security, and that we should not cut out important government programs, especially for kids. How exactly is he going to pay for all this? He's not going to get it by lowering taxes on the middle class, which he also promised to do in his speech.
My problem with the democrats is simple. They tell us flat out that they will not raise taxes on the middle class. I flat out don't believe them.Comment
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This is one election I wish I could vote in.Comment
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Amen to that! he is the man for the job!
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nobody is going to win in a landslideOriginally posted by SuckOnThis
Kerry showed tonight that he is beginning to gain confidence in his role. Just wait until the debates, he is going to tear Bush apart and make him look like a child. Kerry will win in a landslide.Comment
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"Recent reports from the General Accounting Office show that more than 60% of large U.S. corporations paid NO federal taxes from 1996 through 2000."Originally posted by boobmaster
As someone who leans republican, I have to say that Kerry gave a pretty good speech. He said everything he needed to say and he came off looking like he would be strong on terrorism should he be elected.
Unfortunately, he did the same thing that most democrats do: he promised us the moon but didn't tell us how much it is going to cost us in the end. He said we should increase defense spending, that we should not privatize social security, and that we should not cut out important government programs, especially for kids. How exactly is he going to pay for all this? He's not going to get it by lowering taxes on the middle class, which he also promised to do in his speech.
My problem with the democrats is simple. They tell us flat out that they will not raise taxes on the middle class. I flat out don't believe them.
we'll start there
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I love when politicians say, "I am going to do this, I am going to do that, and I am going to do the other thing." all without saying how he plans on doing it . . . . and lowering taxes in the process.
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they all say thatm, so which do you vote for?Originally posted by baddog
I love when politicians say, "I am going to do this, I am going to do that, and I am going to do the other thing." all without saying how he plans on doing it . . . . and lowering taxes in the process.
Who could not vote for that?
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oh, and:
"In today?s weaker economy, tax receipts from companies have fallen even steeper -- corporate taxes now account for a mere 7.5 percent of overall federal tax receipts, the lowest rate since 1983. For a comparison, during WWII corporate taxes accounted for about 40% of federal tax receipts."
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link?Originally posted by titmowse
"Recent reports from the General Accounting Office show that more than 60% of large U.S. corporations paid NO federal taxes from 1996 through 2000."
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Some people just can't change their narrow focus, even when they're getting shafted..oh well..Originally posted by Fletch XXX
they all say thatm, so which do you vote for?Comment
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Exactly! When Bush visited ground zero after 9/11 and was with the fireman on top of that car and told those around him that the WORLD heard them and soon Osama would hear from them too..it felt GREAT to be an American.Originally posted by viguru
What kerry had to say might be bullshit (who knows) but I gotta tell you guys, for about 10 minutes it really felt great to be an american again..
Then we went after Osama & company..but then, suddenly we started walking a new path (Iraq) and Al Qaeda became like an afterthought. Since then, nothing that Bush has done has made me proud to be an American.Comment
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You mean like how Bush is telling us we're going to make Iraq a stable democracy?Originally posted by baddog
I love when politicians say, "I am going to do this, I am going to do that, and I am going to do the other thing." all without saying how he plans on doing it . . . . and lowering taxes in the process.
Who could not vote for that?Comment
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I think its safe to say that's a pretty standard thing, even bush did that shit and since we only have 2 choices, we have to look past all that BS and figure out who is going to be a better leader, who is going to make better choices.. we already know bush is a freak whos made one too many bad ones.. time for change IMO, dont care what kerry said or bush said.. VOTE KERRY!!! :DOriginally posted by baddog
I love when politicians say, "I am going to do this, I am going to do that, and I am going to do the other thing." all without saying how he plans on doing it . . . . and lowering taxes in the process.
Who could not vote for that?Comment
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which claims? the gao's?Originally posted by baddog
how about a link that supports these claims?I still love everybodyComment
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I made my 2nd donation to JohnKerry.com today.
I encourage everyone here to do the same even if its a small amount.
Kerry has raised more money than Bush so far. Its critical to financially support the candidate you are behind. Its going to be a close race and every dollar helps pay for another ad to hit the message home.
Kerry-Edwards is the way to go in this election!!!
We need to get the ultra right wing zealots out of our government and get things centered again.
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are you expecting people to actually FOLLOW the thread they post in? how dare you.Originally posted by titmowse
which claims? the gao's?
i guess he missed your link.
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GAO pdf:Originally posted by titmowse
which claims? the gao's?
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d04358.pdf
MSN Money story:
http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/Taxes/P80242.asp
Google search:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...=Google+Search
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if you, me, cherry and baddog ever meet up some day...we'll wrassle!Originally posted by Fletch XXX
are you expecting people to actually FOLLOW the thread they post in? how dare you.
i guess he missed your link.
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yeah, where does the gao say that 60% of large U.S. corporations paid NO federal taxes from 1996 through 2000Originally posted by titmowse
which claims? the gao's?Comment
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I saw her link and went there, I saw nothing from the GAO thereOriginally posted by Fletch XXX
are you expecting people to actually FOLLOW the thread they post in? how dare you.
i guess he missed your link.
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you're going to make me read a fucking pdf on my little tiny laptop? you bastard.Originally posted by baddog
yeah, where does the gao say that 60% of large U.S. corporations paid NO federal taxes from 1996 through 2000
the msn story is good enough for me. you read the pdf, mr speed reader.
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okay, so when Clinton was in office, and everything was roses, many corps paid little or no tax. Your point?Originally posted by titmowse
GAO pdf:
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d04358.pdf
MSN Money story:
http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/Taxes/P80242.asp
Google search:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...=Google+Search
sorry it took so long. i'm on the dial up laptop ;)
Besides, since when did the President have anything to do with taxes? I could have sworn that Congress was who made the taxc laws. . . . did I miss a class or something?Comment
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Agreed, so why spend money on a 4 day convention? This isn't like before when a candidate was actually picked at a convention. This was 4 days of a mutual circle jerk, and the money could have better spent.Originally posted by KRL
Its going to be a close race and every dollar helps pay for another ad to hit the message home.
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Originally posted by titmowse
you're going to make me read a fucking pdf on my little tiny laptop? you bastard.
the msn story is good enough for me. you read the pdf, mr speed reader.
the pdf crashed my browser, would not waste my time if I were youComment
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another thought . . . . how many people here are incorporated specifically for the tax breaks? 60% of the corps in America probably aren't even turning a profitComment
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i right clicked the pdf, saved to desk top, opened with pdf, scrolled through, found the exact stats relatively easily.
pdfs cannot be cut and pasted but it backs it up.
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page 2 of 39:Originally posted by baddog
the pdf crashed my browser, would not waste my time if I were you
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I guess you missed my subsequent posts . . . .and I saw the graphs, it crashed my browser when I closed itOriginally posted by titmowse
page 2 of 39:
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i'm sorry. let's wrassle!Originally posted by baddog
I guess you missed my subsequent posts . . . .and I saw the graphs, it crashed my browser when I closed it
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I'd pay good money to see Baddog & Titmowse in the ring battling it out!
p.s. - My money is on titmowse.
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