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  • scoobydookc
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    #51
    Originally posted by dig420
    If the initial count had favored Gore, with all the bullshit about Katherine Harris and Jeb in Florida going on in the bg the Repubs would have declared a revolution. We'd STILL have an interim president.

    One thing I know about you conservatives though is that words are wasted on you. If you had the ability to see reason you wouldn't be a conservative in the first place.
    Originally posted by dig420
    did you read my post, or just having trouble with comprehension?
    Originally posted by dig420
    We are more interested in the health and functionality of this nation than we are in our own power.
    Once again I will say it, tell me how the election counts in Florida in the 2000 election is worthy of taking to the supreme court, but this evidence you have of George Bush LYING TO THE COUNTRY and DISCOUNTING INTELLIGENCE TO ACHIEVE A PREDETERMINED ANSWER is not worth impeachment.

    If this information is true on Bush, and you claim to have evidence.... I would love to see it (no sarcasm.)

    Then I want you to explain to me how you have this evidence, along with people in power (democrats in congress) AND HE IS STILL IN OFFICE. Along with an explanation of how this is more healthy to the country by not impeaching him, and I would gladly -- on this day become a liberal democrat for the rest of my life, and vote as one.

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      • spanky part 2
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        #52
        My imitation of a republican.......baaaaaaaaaaaaa

        Why are you all a bunch of angry sheep.

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          • robfantasy
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            #53
            We need a fucking president that speaks for the regular people.

            regular people dont get represented because they are trying to survive and cant get off work to go vote.
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              • scoobydookc
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                #54
                Originally posted by spanky part 2
                My imitation of a republican.......baaaaaaaaaaaaa

                Why are you all a bunch of angry sheep.
                Speaking of sheep and what it implies, where is this evidence? Where is this hardcore evidence that all of you democrats base your hatred for Bush at that I'm waiting for?

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                  • mahoney
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                    #55
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                      • PenisFace
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                        #56
                        Originally posted by bret
                        and what a great job they do at it too... what democratic program is responsible? EVERY SINGLE PROGRAM IMPLEMENTED BY A DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAS FAILED TO MEET ITS OBJECTIVES. and then they try and fix them by fucking up other programs.

                        social security is a fucking mess because of the reckless spending by IRRESPONSIBLE democrats. if they gave two shits about the people they say they do, they would solve their problems instead of throwing money at them.
                        How many billions/trillions has the US thrown away on iraq so far? Something far more than what any democrat ever threw away.
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                          • baddog
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                            #57
                            Originally posted by dig420
                            I also noticed that BOR totally talked over Moore when Moore brought up the point that Bush wasn't given bad information.
                            I think the point is that Bush was given bad information . . . . by everyone . . . . from every country's intelligence

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                              • Pud
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                                #58
                                ware can i read it?
                                Your Ass pic here!!!

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                                  • baddog
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                                    #59
                                    Originally posted by spanky part 2
                                    The next time I will sleep well will be the night I know that Bush is going back to his Texas ranch for good.
                                    see ya in 2008

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                                      • baddog
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                                        #60
                                        Originally posted by PenisFace
                                        How many billions/trillions has the US thrown away on iraq so far? Something far more than what any democrat ever threw away.
                                        please kill yourself

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                                          • jukeboxfrank
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                                            #61
                                            One thing I know about you conservatives though is that words are wasted on you. If you had the ability to see reason you wouldn't be a conservative in the first place.
                                            Oh give me a break.....What bull shit is that.


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                                              • MikeHawk
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                                                #62
                                                Originally posted by NickHimself
                                                So you'd give this round to O'Reilly?
                                                I have not seen it yet, but you got to wonder why would Moore step into the Lions den with O Reilly? This is what Bill O Reilly does ever day, with out seeing it I am sure Moore had his head handed to him...He is a film director....not a talk show man.

                                                Then here is the other side of it, why is Fox News still head and shoulders above the network new stations?....kind of makes you wonder ?

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                                                  • EZRhino
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                                                    #63
                                                    All I can say is Moore is a peice of shit and should return his oscar.

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                                                      • EZRhino
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                                                        #64
                                                        Hope Oreilly lays into him.

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                                                          • MikeHawk
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                                                            #65
                                                            Originally posted by baddog
                                                            I think the point is that Bush was given bad information . . . . by everyone . . . . from every country's intelligence

                                                            Excellent point Baddog, so easy to point the finger or play arm chair quarterback...the most difficult of time for this country...

                                                            Not once did I see someone say anything about our troops, and that we are at War..did not see Tricky Bill Clinton or Big Butt Hillary say anything?
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                                                                #66
                                                                I love how bill wouldn't say he would send his kid there and that he would go.... Yeah right.

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                                                                  • MikeHawk
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                                                                    #67
                                                                    Originally posted by baddog
                                                                    please kill yourself

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                                                                      • buzzard
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                                                                        #68
                                                                        The only one who makes any sense in this thread as far as the argument goes is dig420

                                                                        I dont watch christian news orgs like Fox but whats even worse is watching or listening to anything O'Reilly says or does and getting enthused about it.

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                                                                          • nitemonkey
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                                                                            #69
                                                                            Jesus this topic brought out the idiots from both sides didnt it.
                                                                            Here's an oppinion from the outside.

                                                                            -Moore defined using inacurate information unknowingly 'lying' which i think is pretty stupid. Especially when it comes from supposedly reliable sources such as the CIA. As stupid as it may be, it is not lying.
                                                                            -O'reilly didn't ask the correct questions....could have done alot better.
                                                                            -Moore used emotional and pointless argument when asking if O'reilly would sacrifice his son for falluja.

                                                                            In summary......Moore was able to avoid O'reilly quite well by taking up time arguing definitions rather than issues. If I were O'reilly I would have asked him questions relating to the inaccuracies in his films, whether he believed his films were documentaries or entertainment, why he doesn't move abroad if its apparently far greatr etc.

                                                                            Any oppinions?

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                                                                              • dig420
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                                                                                #70
                                                                                Originally posted by nitemonkey


                                                                                In summary......Moore was able to avoid O'reilly quite well by taking up time arguing definitions rather than issues. If I were O'reilly I would have asked him questions relating to the inaccuracies in his films, whether he believed his films were documentaries or entertainment, why he doesn't move abroad if its apparently far greatr etc.

                                                                                Any oppinions?
                                                                                The reason you never hear any conservatives ask about the inaccuracies in his film is because there are none. However, nobody who listens exclusively to Fox news would know this or even be able to digest the information if it's spelled out to them letter by letter.

                                                                                In fact, I think it's hilarious listening to conservative assclowns talking about the integrity of Fox news even AFTER a documentary came out that has real time footage of them framing their information according to the command of the Republican Party. If Bush went on national television and said he was a Nazi that liked to sodomize small colored children, the weird-ass conservative pornographers here wouldn't abandon Bush. They'd go find some small colored children of their own and congratulate themselves on how much better their sex lives are than the Democrats.

                                                                                In summary, conservatives are angry sheep with deep emotional problems.
                                                                                Last edited by dig420; 07-27-2004, 11:22 PM.

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                                                                                  • theking
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                                                                                    #71
                                                                                    Originally posted by dig420
                                                                                    The reason you never hear any conservatives ask about the inaccuracies in his film is because there are none. However, nobody who listens exclusively to Fox news would know this or even be able to digest the information if it's spelled out to them letter by letter.

                                                                                    In fact, I think it's hilarious listening to conservative assclowns talking about the integrity of Fox news even AFTER a documentary came out that has real time footage of them framing their information according to the command of the Republican Party. If Bush went on national television and said he was a Nazi that liked to sodomize small colored children, the weird-ass conservative pornographers here wouldn't abandon Bush. They'd go find some small colored children of their own and congratulate themselves on how much better their sex lives are than the Democrats.

                                                                                    In summary, conservatives are angry sheep with deep emotional problems.
                                                                                    Pig shit.
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                                                                                      • Pleasurepays
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                                                                                        I did not read the thread, but let me guess what its about...

                                                                                        liberals that hate republicans, conservatives and bush... .still hate republicans, conservatives and bush.

                                                                                        conservatives think michael moore is full of shit and nothing more than a disturbed propagandist that hates america and a liar.

                                                                                        *yawn*
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                                                                                          • baddog
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                                                                                            #73
                                                                                            Originally posted by dig420

                                                                                            One thing I know about you conservatives though is that words are wasted on you. If you had the ability to see reason you wouldn't be a conservative in the first place.
                                                                                            translation: if you don't agree with me, you must be wrong

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                                                                                              • baddog
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                                                                                                #74
                                                                                                Originally posted by dig420


                                                                                                In summary, conservatives are angry sheep with deep emotional problems.
                                                                                                pfft . . . give me a break Bernie . . . you are obviously the most angry person in this thread . . . I hate to think what the next 4 years are going to do to you

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                                                                                                  • baddog
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                                                                                                    #75
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Pleasurepays
                                                                                                    I did not read the thread, but let me guess what its about...

                                                                                                    liberals that hate republicans, conservatives and bush... .still hate republicans, conservatives and bush.

                                                                                                    conservatives think michael moore is full of shit and nothing more than a disturbed propagandist that hates america and a liar.

                                                                                                    *yawn*
                                                                                                    not exactly . . . I am hardly a conservative, don't like Bush (but am not convinced that a) Kerry is the answer; or b) that Kerry can beat him), and think Moore is a total asshat.

                                                                                                    I happened to watch Roger and Me (can't believe the grammar) the other night. I have not seen it in many years, so this was the first time I looked at is as a "documentary" and I have to say, Moore has always been an idiot. Perhaps a Communist ideologist, but a definite idiot.

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                                                                                                      • jonesy
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                                                                                                        oreilly needs a kick in tha nuts
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                                                                                                          • Pleasurepays
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                                                                                                            Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                                            not exactly . . . I am hardly a conservative, don't like Bush (but am not convinced that a) Kerry is the answer; or b) that Kerry can beat him), and think Moore is a total asshat.

                                                                                                            I happened to watch Roger and Me (can't believe the grammar) the other night. I have not seen it in many years, so this was the first time I looked at is as a "documentary" and I have to say, Moore has always been an idiot. Perhaps a Communist ideologist, but a definite idiot.
                                                                                                            i think Moore does a great job at doing exactly what he is trying to do.. get people to talk about what he feels are important issues. it's unfortuneate that he does not have the talent to do it without distorting reality so much, but then again, it just makes people talk even more.

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                                                                                                              • theking
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                                                                                                                #78
                                                                                                                Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                                                not exactly . . . I am hardly a conservative, don't like Bush (but am not convinced that a) Kerry is the answer; or b) that Kerry can beat him), and think Moore is a total asshat.

                                                                                                                I happened to watch Roger and Me (can't believe the grammar) the other night. I have not seen it in many years, so this was the first time I looked at is as a "documentary" and I have to say, Moore has always been an idiot. Perhaps a Communist ideologist, but a definite idiot.
                                                                                                                I too...am not a conservative...and I too do not like Mr. Bush holding the title of President...but I do not dislike Moore...because I accept him for what he once stated on the now defunct Politically Correct show that he is..."an entertainer that is laughing all the way to the bank". Some of the uninformed/misinformed began to take him seriously and he has gone along...playing the role...and I am sure...he is still laughing all the way to the bank.
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                                                                                                                  • baddog
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                                                                                                                    #79
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by theking
                                                                                                                    I too...am not a conservative...and I too do not like Mr. Bush holding the title of President...but I do not dislike Moore...because I accept him for what he once stated on the now defunct Politically Correct show that he is..."an entertainer that is laughing all the way to the bank". Some of the uninformed/misinformed began to take him seriously and he has gone along...playing the role...and I am sure...he is still laughing all the way to the bank.
                                                                                                                    you must be a conservative sheep if you don't agree with me

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                                                                                                                      • EviLSuperstaR
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                                                                                                                        #80
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Tom_PM
                                                                                                                        The point is he didnt look bad

                                                                                                                        He's just a movie maker, lol. To attach so much importance to a anti-bush movie is very telling..

                                                                                                                        Especially when possibly the biggest dig oreilly could make was that sadam killed so many of his own people. That was in the late 1980's in case people forget.. and we drove him out of Kuwait in 1991 and didnt do jack shit about him killing his own people.

                                                                                                                        Ah well, didnt expect anything but a back and forth that didnt make much sense other than to expose hard liner views. Blind ideology indeed.
                                                                                                                        In fact Reagan and Rumsfeld didn't really mind Saddam gassing people, they helped him with the material for that and he even got a handshake from Rumsfeld personally. Good job Saddam! As long as you listen to the US you can do whatever you want.

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                                                                                                                          • EviLSuperstaR
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                                                                                                                            #81
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by scoobydookc
                                                                                                                            Speaking of sheep and what it implies, where is this evidence? Where is this hardcore evidence that all of you democrats base your hatred for Bush at that I'm waiting for?

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                                                                                                                              • Joe Citizen
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                                                                                                                                Originally posted by MikeHawk
                                                                                                                                Then here is the other side of it, why is Fox News still head and shoulders above the network new stations?....kind of makes you wonder ?
                                                                                                                                Because most Americans like to have their thinking done for them.

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                                                                                                                                  • Pleasurepays
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                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Tom_PM
                                                                                                                                    The point is he didnt look bad

                                                                                                                                    He's just a movie maker, lol. To attach so much importance to a anti-bush movie is very telling..
                                                                                                                                    Huh? "Anit-Bush Movie"

                                                                                                                                    I thought it was a documentary

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                                                                                                                                      • TheMob?
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                                                                                                                                        did someone record the show?

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                                                                                                                                          • spanky part 2
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                                                                                                                                            What's funny to me is all the conservatives bashing the movie when they haven't seen it.

                                                                                                                                            The majority of the movie is clips of Bush using his own words. You really don't need to add much because he is such a fool.

                                                                                                                                            The facts are that 9-11 happened on his watch. I am so tired of everyone saying it was clintons fault. Bush had 9 fucking months to do something and he didn't. I guess he was to busy making vacation plans.

                                                                                                                                            Then when he did do something, he attacked the wrong country. If that's your idea of being strong on terror, well then you are a sheep.

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                                                                                                                                              • x-vision
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                                                                                                                                                I think Moore lost the argument. Going head to head with ORiley is no easy task, but Mike looked a bit unprepared for what he was getting himself into and ended up playing the defensive the entire time. That weakened his argument.

                                                                                                                                                He kept saying that GWB lied about everything and Bill kepy coming back and saying he didn't lie. All Mike had to say was ignoring all of the evidence to the contrary is as bad as lying, but he refused to give up any ground to Bill. There were a couple of other incidents as well that Bill just talked over Mike and Mike couldn't get a coherent point across. The funny part was at the end where Bill says he was glad they had the argument and the public could decide, then goes back to the live broadcast and gives another minute talk about how Michael Moore was completely wrong and stupid, but he's no longer there to defend himself.
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                                                                                                                                                  • bringer
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                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by x-vision
                                                                                                                                                    I think Moore lost the argument. Going head to head with ORiley is no easy task, but Mike looked a bit unprepared for what he was getting himself into and ended up playing the defensive the entire time. That weakened his argument.

                                                                                                                                                    He kept saying that GWB lied about everything and Bill kepy coming back and saying he didn't lie. All Mike had to say was ignoring all of the evidence to the contrary is as bad as lying, but he refused to give up any ground to Bill. There were a couple of other incidents as well that Bill just talked over Mike and Mike couldn't get a coherent point across. The funny part was at the end where Bill says he was glad they had the argument and the public could decide, then goes back to the live broadcast and gives another minute talk about how Michael Moore was completely wrong and stupid, but he's no longer there to defend himself.
                                                                                                                                                    i also liked how moore said the us should of removed hitler before he'd done any of the things he did but it wrong for bush to do it saddam.
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                                                                                                                                                      • dennisthemenace
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                                                                                                                                                        It was a useless waste of television time.

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                                                                                                                                                          • mardigras
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                                                                                                                                                            #89
                                                                                                                                                            Going head-to-head with O'Reilly is an exercise in futility. He debates by interrupting to the point of distraction.
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                                                                                                                                                                Link to the interview:

                                                                                                                                                                http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,127236,00.html
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                                                                                                                                                                    #91
                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by mardigras
                                                                                                                                                                    Going head-to-head with O'Reilly is an exercise in futility. He debates by interrupting to the point of distraction.
                                                                                                                                                                    he only interrupts when people dont answer his questions
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                                                                                                                                                                        I find it interesting that of the 4 guests O'Reilly had on last night Michael Moore is the only one he taped and showed later. I can guarantee you it wasn't because MM was leaving Boston anythime soon At least MM insisted it be shown complete and unedited. Bill O'Reilly would have been stopping the tape every 30 seconds to add commentary
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                                                                                                                                                                          • TheSaint
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                                                                                                                                                                            This entire thread can be summed up in three points, the failure to understand and agree to any one of which marks the reader as dense:

                                                                                                                                                                            1. Michael Moore is an idiot. Packaging lies and half-truths that appeal to the stupid as a documentary is just wrong.

                                                                                                                                                                            2. George Bush is an idiot and a liar. Not because he dragged us into a war (everyone on the planet agreed Iraq still had WMD, including Germany, France and Russia), but because he sold himself to us as a moderate when in fact he is to the right of Atilla the hun.

                                                                                                                                                                            3. O'reilly is pompus and full of himself, but often on the correct side of things as was the case here, because on the idiot scale, Moore by far tops all of the aforementioned idiots.
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                                                                                                                                                                              • sperbonzo
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                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by TheSaint
                                                                                                                                                                                This entire thread can be summed up in three points, the failure to understand and agree to any one of which marks the reader as dense:

                                                                                                                                                                                1. Michael Moore is an idiot. Packaging lies and half-truths that appeal to the stupid as a documentary is just wrong.

                                                                                                                                                                                2. George Bush is an idiot and a liar. Not because he dragged us into a war (everyone on the planet agreed Iraq still had WMD, including Germany, France and Russia), but because he sold himself to us as a moderate when in fact he is to the right of Atilla the hun.

                                                                                                                                                                                3. O'reilly is pompus and full of himself, but often on the correct side of things as was the case here, because on the idiot scale, Moore by far tops all of the aforementioned idiots.
                                                                                                                                                                                Wow....someone that paid attention.

                                                                                                                                                                                I also find it amusing that Michael Moore kept talking about kids. These are 18 year olds that join the military of their OWN choice, and their parents can't do anything about it, as they are considered ADULTS. If they want to join the military, they do. Michael Moore can't make that choice for them and neither can O'rielly....the only choice that ANY adult in the US can make about it is FOR THEMSELVES. So MM asking BOR if he would sacrifice hsi own child is just silly. When BOR's child is over 18, they will make that choice for themselves, no matter what BOR says.
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Pleasurepays
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                                                                                                                                                                                    #95
                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by spanky part 2 The facts are that 9-11 happened on his watch. I am so tired of everyone saying it was clintons fault. Bush had 9 fucking months to do something and he didn't. I guess he was to busy making vacation plans.
                                                                                                                                                                                    Anyone who thinks that 9/11 is the fault of any President has not been paying much attention .

                                                                                                                                                                                    Then when he did do something, he attacked the wrong country. If that's your idea of being strong on terror, well then you are a sheep.
                                                                                                                                                                                    when he "did do something" he attacked afghanistan. destroyed all the terrorist based and destroyed the Taliban regime which had been protecting Osama Bin Laden and all those who trained there in spite of the fact that the US had tried for 4 years through diplomacy to get the Taliban to hand him over.
                                                                                                                                                                                    Last edited by Pleasurepays; 07-28-2004, 08:12 AM.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • fudpuck
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • May 2004
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                                                                                                                                                                                        #96
                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by dennisthemenace
                                                                                                                                                                                        It was a useless waste of television time.

                                                                                                                                                                                        More good points get made in an episode of South Park.
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • TheMob?
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                                                                                                                                                                                            #97
                                                                                                                                                                                            did anyone record the happening? i'd love to see it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • spanky part 2
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                                                                                                                                                                                                #98
                                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Pleasurepays
                                                                                                                                                                                                [B]Anyone who thinks that 9/11 is the fault of any President has not been paying much attention .



                                                                                                                                                                                                when he "did do something" he attacked afghanistan. destroyed all the terrorist based and destroyed the Taliban regime which had been protecting Osama Bin Laden and all those who trained there in spite of the fact that the US had tried for 4 years through diplomacy to get the Taliban to hand him over.
                                                                                                                                                                                                Guess what, I was paying attention, kinda had to living 2 blocks south of the wtc.

                                                                                                                                                                                                If he's gonna take credit for his so called "war on terror", he needs to take the blame too. He sure likes using the images in his ads to get his ass re-elected too.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • MetaMan
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Jan 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Moore is a fucking idiot, only fools listen to anything he says, he doesnt give a fuck about america he gives a fuck about himself and making $, he could feed you people anything and you would agree with him just because he is "different".

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Pleasurepays
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                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Aug 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                                                        #100
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by spanky part 2
                                                                                                                                                                                                        If he's gonna take credit for his so called "war on terror", he needs to take the blame too. He sure likes using the images in his ads to get his ass re-elected too.
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Where you live has nothing to do with the notion of claiming that a president caused 9/11... and doing something about it hardly makes him responsible for everything before the fact... using that logic one could say that doing nothing after the fact would also absolve him of any responsibility.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Your logic would also dictate that Clinton was eaqually responsible since attacks happened on his watch and he retaliated as well.
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Last edited by Pleasurepays; 07-28-2004, 09:36 AM.

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