xxxotic im still waiting for an answer

hehe go XXXotic ma brutha.

Wow dude you maust have been born with a counting defect!

it looks to me that 3 maybe 4 people said they got anything at all..

Like i said emailing is not the issue here and you fucking well know it..

Ever since we have been in business people have tried to find things to slam us on...and you know the real issue is you can't sell content for the prices we do and that really gets your ass...

Let it out you can trust us !

Roscoe, I've been polite to you to this point, if you're going to keep pressing the provider vs provider aspect of this, you are going to get your ass seriously owned because I won't pull any punches. Now before it gets to that point, shut your fucking piehole and go peddle some content.

Do it already, stop threatening him and do something

seriously dude, the hole you keep digging just gets deeper and deeper. Now run back to the special olympics your team needs it's captain.

and to confirm one thing, you're right, we won't sell content as cheap as you, because our content doesn't look like a 6 year old with a one use camera took the pictures.

Pardon me for selling quality and not oversaturating the market with penny pic packs

again, my main beef with you is that you're a spammer, if you think for one second I am in any way threatened by you or your business you're SADLY mistaken.

There's a reason why you sell your content so cheap, it's because you COULDN'T get any more for it considering your 299$ for 100k pics special is already overpriced by 500$

You couldn't PAY ME to use YOUR content

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

See, you keep making this so obvious... you're only purpose is to keep pushing this to try to spam your own crappy content.

No, no one has been slamming you ever since you've been in business. You've been out trying to find people to slam you so that you can get more bogus exposure.

Yes, your content sucks the left nut... it's horrible. Just deal with it.

Everyone who's posted in this thread can plainly see he was mad because you were spamming... and you're STILL spamming.

Get a clue... anyone who's seen this thread will never buy from you now. Although, I'm pretty sure they never had any intention of it before anyway.

this thread needs the theme song from life goes on hahahahahaded into it.. would be fitting since corky started the thread

no one sells content lower than I do.. all this pissing and moaning about spam mail.. it's all a cover for jealously.. because you all know that no one sells content lower than I do

I am Roscoe, the KING of content

Session Start (ICQ - 326603:roscoe): Tue Dec 16 14:10:37 2003
[14:10] Joel (jact): You sir, now have a problem.
[14:11] roscoe: we can tlak by phone if you like
[14:13] Joel (jact): I don't see a need to speak by telephone. I would highly suggest that any disagreement you have between Chris and yourself is left between Chris and yourself. Pulling myself and my business into it is the last thing you wanted to do. I have asked Chris not to make further comment about your content, but it is his right to hold an opinion about unsolocited email. Did you fail to see me posting about getting your email aswell? How about scrubbing your list for *@jactstudios.com and make us all happy? We didn't ask to get your updates, really, we didn't.
[14:17] roscoe: the post about the 30 day thing was an error and i posted so...
i tried to delete it and it was to late...


[14:17] roscoe: Im not pissed at jact and never was..what im pissed about is his claims a how his story keeps changing....his comments about spamming is fine if he wants but he also had no reason to post directly about our content being shit and slamming us in that was. It was not asked for or provoked. Even now you do not see me saying a word about jacts content.
[14:19] Joel (jact): Well I have asked him not to make further comment about your content, that's not how we play the game. There are content providers I absolutely cannot stand and I send them business on a regular basis. I have even sent PixMasters quite a number of customers looking for cost effective filler content. So, my suggestion to you is leave my company's name out of it, as we do not condone public nor private attacks against other content providers nor do we feel he was attacking you as a content provider. Mailers piss people off, you send out mail without a remove link that works, you're going to get slammed, easy enough. Anyhow I have to go do some banking. Thank you so much for the pre-christmas sales, your thread made us dozens of sales and I appreciate the business.
[14:21] roscoe: if you will look at the thread you will see i never mentioned your company name till he did.

I was not going to till he brought it up.
[14:22] Joel (jact): XxXotic and JACT Content are extremely well known in the industry, mentioning his name without what company he works for is moot as it's common knowledge. Anyhow, good day to you.
Session Close (roscoe): Tue Dec 16 14:22:54 2003


Session Start (ICQ - 326603:roscoe): Tue Dec 16 14:25:57 2003
[14:25] roscoe: honestly i don't beleive he is getting emails he cannot show anything where he is or has...

and every time i ask he changes the subject..our list is an honest one like i said.
[14:25] *** Auto-response sent to roscoe: I am currently away from the computer.
[14:53] Joel (jact): Well, honest or not, I'm getting emails and I didn't subscribe, as I asked, please remove *@jactstudios.com. Your arguement really is moot because I know for a fact we didn't subscribe. Now drop the subject, you're only making yourself look worse.
Session Close (roscoe): Tue Dec 16 14:53:41 2003


Session Start (ICQ - 326603:roscoe): Tue Dec 16 14:55:32 2003
[14:55] roscoe: i did find you and removed it...
the issue i brought up was not about emailing but the comments made about our content...xxxotic decided to go the email route.

The comments were and are uncalled for
[14:55] *** Auto-response sent to roscoe: I am currently away from the computer.
Session Close (roscoe): Tue Dec 16 16:20:43 2003


Session Start (ICQ - 326603:roscoe): Tue Dec 16 18:24:56 2003
[18:25] Joel (jact): If you think this has anything to do with your content sales or prices, you're seriously mistaken. You don't hurt ANYONE's business. In fact, you help it. So stop being such a fucking idiot and shut your fucking piehole. I'm done with you.
[18:25] roscoe: hey i tried being nice and you wouldn't stop!
[18:26] Joel (jact): Excuse me? I fucking left and you KEPT going on and on. Wouldn't stop? Get your fucking head out of the clouds. This is doing you NO good in public, you're just making yourself look like a complete idiot, I'd suggest you drop it.
[18:27] Joel (jact): Your "FRIENDS" are even saying you spam, so come on, get off your high horse and SHUT THE HELL P
[18:27] Joel (jact): *up
[18:28] roscoe: I made two post about emails and what i would do in an effort to make everyone happy.. you posted twice after that about me getting my foot out of my mouth...


you know as well as i do my emails once every couple of weeks is not the issue here.


[18:28] Joel (jact): You have no remove link, I didn't opt in, IT IS SPAM, that is the law. I'm sure you have NO idea about that though. I never said you had your foot in your mouth, now you're getting your shit mixed up. I seriously suggest you go the fuck away, you've pissed me off now.
[18:29] roscoe: hold on ill get it for you
[18:31] roscoe: the foot that's been in your mouth this entire thread


sorry xxxotic said that..damn going to fast
[18:32] Joel (jact): XxXotic's beef with you has absolutely nothing to do with him working for my company. It has nothing to do with your prices, it has nothing to do with your specials, it has nothing to do with the fact you sell content. He'd be on your ass if you sold widgets. He does not like spam, he gets very vocal when people spam and then try to justify it and demand "PROOF" when we all know nobody saves spam. That is his problem with you. Now, my problem with you is that you're treading dangerously on the verge of libel with my company and i will NOT hesitate to serve your ass
[18:34] roscoe: Liable...i never said anything about jact content...

He DID say something about us!
As your representative thats comes from your company..seems like i would have a good case if not better than you might have there!
[18:35] Joel (jact): You have been pushing the content provider vs content proivider point endlessly, you were the one who attacked my company from post one, I've already spoken with my lawyer. He looks forward to a court date with you. Would you like to press this?

Well that was almost all of it..You missed the part where i said i would drop it if xxxotic did.

But as far a liable or anything like that..i think i have plenty in this thread alone to counter sue.
It seems the people working for you are the ones doing all the slanderous statments not you...

I woul like to see anywhere in this thread where i posted anything liableous about your company.

As appossed to what plenty of your people have said about mine mine!

You wanna sue..lets go !

www.dictionary.com please stop butchering the english language.

there are only 3 people who work for jact

JACT
LadyMischief
and Myself

so how does that translate into "all your people" again, you show your ignorance

Changing the subject again...LOL

I didn't bring it up your boss did so... i guess its his call huh?

Or are your trying to turn that around also...

So, now that all of that is resolved, is everyone done thier Xmas shopping?

Juicy is sooooooooo sexy, I can't believe how sexy he is!

jact and LadyM make up jact content, xxxotic is an employee.... other than that, everyone who has posted in this thread just happens to think you're a dickwad.

So, unfortunately for you... your "liable" is liable to not have any libel to stand on.

I'm sorry your paycheck is late, I'll get right on that! (I wasn't even aware you worked for me!)

Not trying to be rude here maskedman but if you read the jact post of icq you will he brought it up not me.

I never mentioned the word till he did...

I'd like to teach the world to sing....

LOL jact

Well the first 5k went to the kids and grandson...Now i gotta do the wify.

Gonna get her one of those 3 tier diamond necklace things i have been seeing.

I hate to think what the malls are gonna be like this weekend.

in perfect harmony...

Just to let you know, LIBEL is the written form of slander, and it's punishable under law. I don't know why you keep digging this, Roscoe.. especially after I CLEARLY STATED earlier on that what XxXotic said was not neccessarily our opinion, however we DO take exception to your mailers. You can dredge this on as long as you like, but unfortunately for you, it's not doing YOU any favors.

If you want to use this as a "mine is better than his" soapbox, go right on ahead, knock yourself out. But I HIGHLY suggest you take the advice given to you on icq and step off the provider vs provider bullshit.. This WHOLE THING was ever about spam. That's still what it's about, and that seems to be perfectly clear to everyone EXCEPT you. Now, have a great holiday, merry christmas, and all that other jazz.

I must apologize though, my triple-opt-in mailer is now full until next year. Maybe then dear

I do will he brought it up.... I mean, I do see he brought it up. Damn man, can't you speak english? You're confusing me.

Anyway, regardless of who brought it up first... he has a better case of it than you do at this point. So it's best that you just drop it.

Got the grandson one of those motorised kids jeeps.

If i wasn't so damn fat i would get in the damn thing and take a ride myself.

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We are cleaning our list of old and unwated emails.

If you don't want to get Pix Masters updates and new content info
please use this link to remove your emaill addy from our list.


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I don't seem to be removed there, roscoe

Would you forward that email to me please xxxotic.

Do you know how to read?

jact posted it, not xxxotic.

I forwarded it to you, since it came to me.

Did you already remove it jact?

would you like some fries with that?

I was looking at the "To" field which said this

To: XXX ()

Figured it was xxxotic..

wanna hear a story? I'll show you godamn story. Quit sending me your 5th grade level advertising emails at adresses that do not exists. sales@ admin@ and everything else @ is gettign rediculous. Fine, I opted in on my webmaster@ address and that's the ONLY email you need. as well, how did you get ahold of my old address from back-off-bitch@ 'myisp' .com. Looks like someone is buying up webmaster email lists from tgp's or sponsors. Where they comming from? Own up to it man, I won't let this go. I swear to fuck I'll email bomb your godamn accounts perosnaly. How about 5000 replies of your spam per hour? Don't tempt me fuckwit.

He filtered that out because it's server info, giving it out isn't a good idea :P

Don't ask me your not in our list?

no of course it's not in your list

whatever, you're a spammer, admit it and move on. everyone already knows, you're the only one who can't seem to grasp it.

I think it's safe to assume that roscoe isn't going to buy you a puppy for Christmas.

Now run along and play.

When has an argument gone in circles long enough? When is it time to cut your losses and get back to work? How many times does one knock one's head against a brick wall before realizing the wall ain't going anywhere?

I don't know.




What I DO know is that if Roscoe had've been running a 100% legitimate no-bullshit opt-in list (like Jact does) he would not be asking which email addresses to remove. A 100% legitimate no-bullshit opt-in list means there is no room for this sort of shit happening. Anyone running a list that is not 100% legitimate no-bullshit opt-in deserves a thread like this. Roscoe, congrats on making yourself look like a complete tool here. Good luck in your future business endeavors, you're obviously going to need it.

Not trying to bash you smith but rethink your comments here.

But lets just do a bit of roll playing here...

YOU run a 100% optin list as you call it with oh 5k of people on it.

I Joe surfer come to you and "say stop spamming me"..Thats it, thats all im gonna tell you.

Better yet lets say im joe surfer and i go to jact and say take me off your email list. The first thing they are gonna ask me is what email address is it im refering to. Even tho your example says a 100% optin list does not need this info i would have to say your quite mistaken there.



Im sure you also know that there is no list that somebody is not going to complain about i don't care how many safeguards you put in place. There is no 100% full proof system so complaints are gonna happen and if people expect you to help them they have to help you help them.

which im more than willing to do.