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  • Rochard
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    • Dec 2001
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    #1

    Flag Burning: Good or bad?

    Open for dicussion.
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    Yes: I'll bring the matches!
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    31
    No: It's never acceptable!
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    22
    Don't Care: Make love to Juice, Not war!
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    Herschel Savage
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  • Rochard
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    • Dec 2001
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    #2
    And no, I can't spell "Juicy".
    Herschel Savage
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    • $5 submissions
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      • Nov 2003
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      #3
      Patriotism v. Free Expression is not that mutually exclusive. Sometimes you need the former to defend the latter and vice-versea.

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      • herbal logic
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        • Feb 2004
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        #4
        freedom of speach of course.... but there are more constructive ways to get your point accross, Burning the flag IMO is basically burning freedom.

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        • CBytch
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          • Apr 2004
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          #5
          Isn't burning a flag illegal? Not that it would stop someone from burning one.

          I say burn bras instead
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          • Fletch XXX
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            #6
            flag wavers themselves should be caged and BURNED.

            nothing i cant stand more than fucking flag waving fuckers.

            i was behind a car the other day in traffic, i swear this fucker had 20+ american flag stickers on his back window, a flag pole on each side of the car and a fucking flag on his antenna.

            "we draw lines and stand behind them,
            thats why flags are such ugly things."

            put down the flag

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            • zanycash Pete
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              #7
              Burning Iraq flag ok! Burning U.S Flag Not ok!

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              • ZanyCash Larry
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                #8
                Not OK

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                • baddog
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                  • Apr 2001
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                  #9
                  Depends on who is doing it . . . an American citizen burning an American flag is a long standing form of protest, and I approve.

                  Someone from another country doing it . . . . nuke 'em, put up a parking lot

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                  • StuartD
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                    • Jul 2002
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                    #10
                    George Carlin said it best... flags and bald eagles are symbols and I leave symbols to the symbol minded.
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                    • johnbosh
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                      #11
                      nope I think peace is so much better

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                      • Fletch XXX
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                        #12

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                        • Fletch XXX
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                          • Fletch XXX
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                            • contentjunky
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                              #15
                              I dont approve of burning your countries flag. Yes its a form of freedom of speech. But it just feels wrong. It especially gets on my nerves when countries who hate us or hate our policies burn the flag to prove some kind of point.
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                              • baddog
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                                • Apr 2001
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by MaskedMan
                                George Carlin said it best... flags and bald eagles are symbols and I leave symbols to the symbol minded.
                                and what is symbol minded?

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                                • Fletch XXX
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by baddog
                                  and what is symbol minded?
                                  what is a play on words for 300?

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                                  • baddog
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                    what is a play on words for 300?
                                    he was funnier in the '60's

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                                    • Fletch XXX
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by baddog
                                      he was funnier in the '60's
                                      calling flag lovers simple minded isnt really funny, accurate, but not funny.

                                      George Carlin isnt just a comedian, sure you know that.

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                                      • baddog
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Fletch XXX

                                        George Carlin isnt just a comedian, sure you know that.

                                        he makes a better atheist than a comedian

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                                        • Fletch XXX
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by baddog
                                          he makes a better atheist than a comedian
                                          as long as he gets people thinking i dont care.

                                          most comedians arent funny.

                                          if i need a laugh ill look at pictures of burning flags


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                                          • Corona
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by baddog
                                            he was funnier in the '60's
                                            Maybe you were just higher in the 60's
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                                            • Nightnday
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                                              #23
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                                              • Joe Citizen
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                                                • Oct 2003
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                                                #24
                                                Flags and nationalism are for the simple minded.

                                                I'm in favour of flag burning because flags offend me.

                                                Burn them all, every last fucking one of them.
                                                Last edited by Joe Citizen; 07-21-2004, 11:53 PM.

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                                                • BRISK
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                                                  • Feb 2003
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                                                  #25
                                                  I think people should have the freedom to burn a flag if they want to.
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                                                  • Corona
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                                                    #26
                                                    Burning the flag is no big deal.

                                                    You got to wear one as a diaper to the US Supreme Court, like Larry Flynt did, if you want to impress me.
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                                                    • smack
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                                                      #27
                                                      flag burning isn't necisarily good or bad. it IS stupid however. there are much better ways to show your dissent that will actually get your points considered rather than labeled as fundamentalists ramblings.
                                                      Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.

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                                                      • Ironhorse
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                                                        • Nov 2002
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                                                        #28
                                                        If nothing else, it's just rude...
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                                                        • Fletch XXX
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by smack
                                                          flag burning isn't necisarily good or bad. it IS stupid however. there are much better ways to show your dissent that will actually get your points considered rather than labeled as fundamentalists ramblings.
                                                          nothing pisses americans off more than burning a flag.

                                                          especially when americans burn american flags.

                                                          sure you could do something more positive, but burning a flag will ALWAYS GET A GOOD RESPONSE

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                                                          • Goatse
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                                                            #30
                                                            Burning a flag doesn't accomplish much, and it's a really juvenile gesture, but it doesn't harm anyone. Burn away, as long as you paid for the flag.

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                                                            • BRISK
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                                              nothing pisses americans off more than burning a flag.
                                                              so true
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                                                              • Fletch XXX
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Goatse
                                                                Burning a flag doesn't accomplish much, and it's a really juvenile gesture, but it doesn't harm anyone. Burn away, as long as you paid for the flag.
                                                                child labor in other countries make our flags.

                                                                oh the irony.

                                                                nothing better than seeing illegal mexicans on the streets selling flags MADE IN TAIWAN.

                                                                every soldier that dies in iraq gets his wings when Pedro the illegal sells a flag

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                                                                • mardigras
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by CBytch
                                                                  Isn't burning a flag illegal?
                                                                  The proper method of disposing of a worn flag is by burning.

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                                                                  • Fletch XXX
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    this is all flag waving will get you.

                                                                    reminds me of similar situations around the world.

                                                                    "mexicans have every right to be here, this land was stolen from us."

                                                                    http://www.americanpatrol.com/RALLIE...4stills-1.html

                                                                    read and learn.

                                                                    history teaches us more than the news.

                                                                    put down the flag and turn off the TV.

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                                                                    • adamneve
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      NEVER!

                                                                      it can start a war
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                                                                      • Rochard
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        I hope I don't get slammed for this.....

                                                                        I fail to see how burning the flag is protected under free speech.

                                                                        I consider freedom of speech something you say, or something you create - such as a photo, a movie, or a book. Perhaps even a performance.

                                                                        The act of burning the flag is just that - an act; In this case an act of protest. Setting a car on fire is also an act of protest, but that's not covered under freedom of speech.

                                                                        Killing an eagle is not covered under freedom of speech - Why shouild burning the flag be okay?
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                                                                          • Fred Quimby
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            The approved method of disposing of unserviceable Flags has long been that they be destroyed by burning.

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                                                                            • Theo
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                                                                              • May 2001
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by RocHard
                                                                              I hope I don't get slammed for this.....

                                                                              I fail to see how burning the flag is protected under free speech.

                                                                              I consider freedom of speech something you say, or something you create - such as a photo, a movie, or a book. Perhaps even a performance.

                                                                              The act of burning the flag is just that - an act; In this case an act of protest. Setting a car on fire is also an act of protest, but that's not covered under freedom of speech.

                                                                              Killing an eagle is not covered under freedom of speech - Why shouild burning the flag be okay?
                                                                              completely agree.

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                                                                                • Sarah_Jayne
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  if Americans didn't get so worked up about it and didn't give the people that burn the flags the reactions they were trying to get in the first place then people wouldn't bother as much to do it.

                                                                                  I guess I never realised just how insane we (Americans) go over the flag until I moved to the UK. You only ever see the English flag (not the Union Jack) at sporting events and when someone is seen burning the Union Jack on the news it might get a raised eyebrow but no where near the responses I was used to as a child.

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                                                                                  • chodadog
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                                                                                    • Apr 2002
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    I love my flag. Flag haters can eat my ass.



                                                                                    I don't think burning a flag has anything to do with freedom of speech. But i don't think it should be against the law, either. It is a form of protest. And it is rather provocative in most cases.
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                                                                                    • SBJ
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                                                                                      • Apr 2003
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Fred Quimby
                                                                                      The approved method of disposing of unserviceable Flags has long been that they be destroyed by burning.
                                                                                      Yes a worn out flag that you plan on replacing then yes burn it with respect.

                                                                                      But I think it is so wrong in so many ways to burn ones own flag. I'm not a flag waver. I don't own a flag . I think that the 4th of July is a day to party and try not to do things too stupid. But at the same time I think burning your own flag is wrong because you are not just burning that flag, you are burning what many people before us have fought for.. Freedom to say "Go fuck youself".

                                                                                      This is a free country but you should not be able to burn the flag that stands for our freedom

                                                                                      just my

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                                                                                      • Corona
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by RocHard
                                                                                        Setting a car on fire is also an act of protest, but that's not covered under freedom of speech.
                                                                                        Sure it is. As long as the car belongs to you it's called performance art.


                                                                                        Originally posted by RocHard

                                                                                        Killing an eagle is not covered under freedom of speech - Why shouild burning the flag be okay?
                                                                                        Burning a flag you own is freedom of speech. Killing a bird that you don't own and is a protected species in not freedom of speech. There is a difference.
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                                                                                        • beergood
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          I really don't care as people have a right to protest if they'd like to. Its not like they stole my flag from the front of my house. Now if they come do it in my front yard then we might have a problem.
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                                                                                          • BradM
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Canadians don't burn Canadian flags.
                                                                                            Why would we?

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                                                                                            • BRISK
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Silent Bob Jedi
                                                                                              This is a free country but you should not be able to burn the flag that stands for our freedom
                                                                                              So in a "free" country, you shouldn't have the freedom to burn a flag?
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                                                                                              • BRISK
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by RocHard
                                                                                                I hope I don't get slammed for this.....

                                                                                                I fail to see how burning the flag is protected under free speech.

                                                                                                I consider freedom of speech something you say, or something you create - such as a photo, a movie, or a book. Perhaps even a performance.

                                                                                                The act of burning the flag is just that - an act; In this case an act of protest. Setting a car on fire is also an act of protest, but that's not covered under freedom of speech.

                                                                                                Killing an eagle is not covered under freedom of speech - Why shouild burning the flag be okay?
                                                                                                Freedom of speech is the right to freely say what you please, as well as the related right to hear what others have stated. Recently, it has been commonly understood as encompassing full freedom of expression, including the freedom to create and distribute movies, pictures, songs, dances, and all other forms of expressive communication.
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                                                                                                • CDSmith
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Where is the option "Not good at all, but I defend the right to do it"

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                                                                                                  • BRISK
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by BradM
                                                                                                    Canadians don't burn Canadian flags.
                                                                                                    Why would we?
                                                                                                    Yes, Canadians burn flags like everyone else. WTF are you talking about?
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