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You're right. That's so far from successful that I would personally be embarrassed to admit it if I were you.Originally posted by boobmaster
I think we are having a problem with the definition of the word 'successful'. Apparently, it means something different to you. I'm perfectly happy with what I'm making in this biz. I also have a 'day job' in academia, which I love.
I know a guy in Portland who brags to people about how successful he is. He has at least 2 room mates and between the 3 of them, they still have difficulty paying their rent. His site brings him a whopping $400.00 per month.
To some people, making beer money is considered success.Comment
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not if she hires me...Originally posted by dig420
it's the getting traffic to your site part that can be difficult.
But seriously.. couple of listings on Thumb TGPs.. and watch her site saturate the web.. Next-door-nikki started like that.. katesplayground also.. But ofcourse.. the girl need to be super hot...
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Maybe if you could make that sig font a little bigger and a brighter shade of yellow I will remember it next timeOriginally posted by dig420
if you've never heard of me or my programs, that's a strike against you my friend, not against me.Comment
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So damn true that he had to sign it twice!Originally posted by Lightspeed
I'm happy to tell you that I believe Tawnee is one of, if not THE, highest paid amateur model on the net. She just bought a new condo and a new car, and is almost finished with her college degree with no debt. She is 22, works 4 days a month shooting updates for her site for over $10k per month every month. We do all the work for her site, including updating her daily journal, answering her fan mail, and replying to her members on her message board. She now shoots only softcore content.
Show me another 22 year old making $10k monthly for 4 days work?
Tawnee is popular because a team of people have been promoting her day and night for 3 years! She is a success story in an industry that doesn't have enough to go around.
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maybe I'll just get my html guy to fix it up tomorrow. I can't be botheredOriginally posted by cosis
Maybe if you could make that sig font a little bigger and a brighter shade of yellow I will remember it next time
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Can we all have a group hug now?good job Steve, nice to see someone spreading the love.
Steves right... as always.
There is only one Tawnee and she is in the top for paid models. There might be one more in that area, but for the long haul... tawness has been bankin! She has Steve and crew to thank for that lifestyle. She would not have done this on her own.Last edited by PerfectionGirls; 07-15-2004, 11:13 PM.SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.Comment
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Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
its not even about that.. once they know the biz.. they can hire someone to take care of the daily task.. hell if a REALLY cute model (katesplayground type) would propose me a 100% payout (plus the exclusivity for 1 month of promotion) in exchange of making the site, magage, promote... I would do it... and promote the heck out of it.. As for photos and videos.. I know some people that could take care of that for a very small fee...
Just so I am clear. A cute model comes to you and say's Hey will you build me a site? YOU are willing to take care of All expenses AND you will run and manage the site Just as long as the site is exclusive to you for the 1st month?
After the 1st month your going to continue to take care of all the bills and Run it and update it. At which point she she can hope that other affiliates sign up and promote this site. Meanwhile your doing this all for nothing ?
Who's paying the server bill on this hot new site? who paid for processing. Who is paying the small fee to the people you know to shoot the content? Oh and when does your Fee for running the site start to kick in?
Dedicated people who run self contained sites like Alley and jake , Newbreed and Arika, Sammy and Brett are not the norm. They are the exception.
Look at your Sig. That site is successful because of the company that created it and pushed it. And once again that is the exception to the rule.Last edited by Mack; 07-15-2004, 11:21 PM.Comment
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Actually, that's exactly what I did when I was 18-19 and I made a VERY pretty pennyOriginally posted by PerfectionGirls
No 18 year old girl, the like you mentioned above have the knowledge to pull what you mentioned off. Not in this teen amateur niche.. no way. They may be smart girls, but not ready to sit their life away infront of a computer and commiting to the time.
But then again, it was 1998-1999 when this occurred, and money practically grew on trees back then (for me at least). Also, I'd like to think that I'm a bit smarter than the avg content model out there, lol. But that is neither here nor there.
Having said all that, paying a model 50 of NET is just plain ludicrous if all she is doing is stripping off her clothes and showing off her pretty little pussy for the camera on a monthly basis. Even if she IS extremely involved with the running of the site on a daily basis, 20 of NET is more than generous, IMO. Sorry Mandy, but modeling is the EASY part of this business. I've done both (modeling and webmastering), and I know this first hand.Comment
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Exactly!Who's paying the server bill on this hot new site? who paid for processing. Who is paying the small fee to the people you know to shoot the content? Oh and when does your Fee for running the site start to kick in?
Its a nice thought, but it will never happen.SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.Comment
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Mandy may win the XBOX thread of the week
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Originally posted by CC
Having said all that, paying a model 50 of NET is just plain ludicrous if all she is doing is stripping off her clothes and showing off her pretty little pussy for the camera on a monthly basis. Even if she IS extremely involved with the running of the site on a daily basis, 20 of NET is more than generous, IMO. Sorry Mandy, but modeling is the EASY part of this business. I've done both (modeling and webmastering), and I know this first hand.
I seem to recall somebody making a similar post in this thread.
Right on CC.
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Not gonna happen.Originally posted by 995Pays_Webmaster
Mandy may win the XBOX thread of the week
Trust me.....I know these things.
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Not a hobby! I'm a two career man. I do VERY well at both.Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
Ahhh its starting to make alot more sense now.
So this is a hobby and your day job covers your expenses for your hobby. Its cool.... thats how i started.Comment
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LOL, that's what happens when you skim threadsOriginally posted by AaronM
I seem to recall somebody making a similar post in this thread.
Right on CC.
Back to wasting time over at Yahoo Games for me, lol.
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Define "VERY well."Originally posted by boobmaster
Not a hobby! I'm a two career man. I do VERY well at both.
We could go around on this one all night.
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Impressive... really! You are the exception and you should be applauded.Actually, that's exactly what I did when I was 18-19 and I made a VERY pretty penny But then again, it was 1998-1999 when this occurred, and money practically grew on trees back then (for me at least). Also, I'd like to think that I'm a bit smarter than the avg content model out there, lol. But that is neither here nor there.
Yep.. you are right. We are just paying models by the hour now. We might do revshare again, but as you said... 20% is very very good.Having said all that, paying a model 50 of NET is just plain ludicrous if all she is doing is stripping off her clothes and showing off her pretty little pussy for the camera on a monthly basis. Even if she IS extremely involved with the running of the site on a daily basis, 20 of NET is more than generous, IMO. Sorry Mandy, but modeling is the EASY part of this business. I've done both (modeling and webmastering), and I know this first hand.
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Great thread
I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.Comment
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Hey...I was not knocking you for posting it. I was commending you for your similar viewpoints.Originally posted by CC
LOL, that's what happens when you skim threads Back to wasting time over at Yahoo Games for me, lol.
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Post your sites and program. We will know in 5 minutes if what you are saying is fact. So far we have seen nothing.Not a hobby! I'm a two career man. I do VERY well at both.
No reason not to buy your story except for your lack of information.SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.Comment
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all expenses? look.. give me a site like KatesPlayground, Tawnee stone, etc.. exclusive for 1 month at 100% (minus ccbill %) and I can easily make between $10k to $15 profits out of it.,.. thats minus ALL the expenses... Once other webmaster start massively to promote her site... she'll have NO problem paying her expenses... which will not be that high to tell you the truth...Originally posted by Mack
Just so I am clear. A cute model comes to you and say's Hey will you build me a site? YOU are willing to take care of All expenses AND you will run and manage the site Just as long as the site is exclusive to you for the 1st month?
After the 1st month your going to continue to take care of all the bills and Run it and update it. At which point she she can hope that other affiliates sign up and promote this site. Meanwhile your doing this all for nothing ?
Who's paying the server bill on this hot new site? who paid for processing. Who is paying the small fee to the people you know to shoot the content? Oh and when does your Fee for running the site start to kick in?
And btw.. thats 1 scenario... Another scenario is If a very cute model that know the biz.. is smart and know what she want and offer me a partnership.. a real one.. like 50/50.. i'll jump on it...Comment
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Maybe Mandy will win herself an Xbox for this or something!---'-,-{@ Sassy Grrrl @}-'-,---
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You're a little prick, aren't you? I make a hell of a lot more than $400.00 a month. I just don't have to have a ferrari in my garage. I make enough to make me happy. Do I want to make more? sure! But I'm not so greedy that I'll fuck my girls over to do it!Originally posted by AaronM
You're right. That's so far from successful that I would personally be embarrassed to admit it if I were you.
I know a guy in Portland who brags to people about how successful he is. He has at least 2 room mates and between the 3 of them, they still have difficulty paying their rent. His site brings him a whopping $400.00 per month.
To some people, making beer money is considered success.Comment
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Right into the front theethsOriginally posted by AaronM
Hey...Mary34D has something like 62 degrees, a masters in cocksucking, and a doctrine in God knows what....Yet her mommy still supports her.Originally posted by rayadp05Comment
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and to add to this great post:Originally posted by Mack
Just so I am clear. A cute model comes to you and say's Hey will you build me a site? YOU are willing to take care of All expenses AND you will run and manage the site Just as long as the site is exclusive to you for the 1st month?
After the 1st month your going to continue to take care of all the bills and Run it and update it. At which point she she can hope that other affiliates sign up and promote this site. Meanwhile your doing this all for nothing ?
Who's paying the server bill on this hot new site? who paid for processing. Who is paying the small fee to the people you know to shoot the content? Oh and when does your Fee for running the site start to kick in?
Dedicated people who run self contained sites like Alley and jake , Newbreed and Arika, Sammy and Brett are not the norm. They are the exception.
Look at your Sig. That site is successful because of the company that created it and pushed it. And once again that is the exception to the rule.
who's going to pay for all costs associated with getting the business setup(licensing, etc.)? What happens when your wondergirl flakes out or disappears 1.5 months into the project and you don't have enough content shot ahead of time to keep the sites freshly updated?
The hard, cold reality of this business is that models are replaceable, far more so than promoters, coders and designers. Getting a girl to take her clothes of for money is easy, getting someone who can make the servers run right, the scripts run without malfunctions and deal with customer as well as affiliate stress are worth their weight in gold.Comment
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Let me be the first to say congratulations.Originally posted by boobmaster
Not a hobby! I'm a two career man. I do VERY well at both.
Success is a relative term. You will be hard pressed to find an objective standard of success. I'm glad you are doing well.DomainerResource.com
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GotchaOriginally posted by AaronM
Hey...I was not knocking you for posting it. I was commending you for your similar viewpoints.
Why thank you ;) I'm really just a computer nerd with big boobs and a cute face, lol.Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
Impressive... really! You are the exception and you should be applauded.
Thanks! The bottom line is that the program owner gets to decide how he or she wants to operate his or her own business (obviously). It's the model's responsibility to read contracts *carefully* and do what they think is in their own best interests.Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
Yep.. you are right. We are just paying models by the hour now. We might do revshare again, but as you said... 20% is very very good.
Thanks CC! Great post!
Interesting thread, to say the least.Comment
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Originally posted by SykkBoy2
and to add to this great post:
who's going to pay for all costs associated with getting the business setup(licensing, etc.)? What happens when your wondergirl flakes out or disappears 1.5 months into the project and you don't have enough content shot ahead of time to keep the sites freshly updated?
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You misread my initial post.. im not talking about a model.. but a webmaster model that would own the site.. if the girl wants to quit after 3 months.. I wont like it but I would have made some very nice profit out of the experience... And keep im mind that im not talking about any kind of girl.. but a real hot one... AudreyLive would be nice.. j/k
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20% of net is theft! The webmaster isn't the one who has to stick a cock in his mouth and take the facial. The girls drive the indusrty. They should get the better cut. That's why I pay my girls 60% of NET!Originally posted by CC
Actually, that's exactly what I did when I was 18-19 and I made a VERY pretty penny But then again, it was 1998-1999 when this occurred, and money practically grew on trees back then (for me at least). Also, I'd like to think that I'm a bit smarter than the avg content model out there, lol. But that is neither here nor there.
Having said all that, paying a model 50 of NET is just plain ludicrous if all she is doing is stripping off her clothes and showing off her pretty little pussy for the camera on a monthly basis. Even if she IS extremely involved with the running of the site on a daily basis, 20 of NET is more than generous, IMO. Sorry Mandy, but modeling is the EASY part of this business. I've done both (modeling and webmastering), and I know this first hand.Comment
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Damn... here in LA models work for about $250 for a quarter of an hour for HC.Originally posted by iwantchixx
you accepted a contract at 250 a month?
Sorry. Your own fault if you're brokeComment
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LMAO.. I'm not about to read this whole thread, but this seriously had me rolling on the floor.Originally posted by midwestmandy
i don't deserve to be treated the way i have..
i'm not some stupid model...
i was just naive...
Almost a GFY version of those pricless commercials.Comment
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Ok..... "Captain Save A Hoe"..... you go right ahead and save the world... one model at a time...20% of net is theft! The webmaster isn't the one who has to stick a cock in his mouth and take the facial. The girls drive the indusrty. They should get the better cut. That's why I pay my girls 60% of NET!
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Fuck... you outted me. SSSSHHHHHHH!!!!!!!Originally posted by AaronM
You're right. That's so far from successful that I would personally be embarrassed to admit it if I were you.
I know a guy in Portland who brags to people about how successful he is. He has at least 2 room mates and between the 3 of them, they still have difficulty paying their rent. His site brings him a whopping $400.00 per month.
To some people, making beer money is considered success.
It's O'Dooles money.Comment
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$250.00 an hour here in the midwest. Not moving to LA anytime soon... thats for sure.Damn... here in LA models work for about $250 for a quarter of an hour for HC.
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http://www.meloncash.com/Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
Post your sites and program. We will know in 5 minutes if what you are saying is fact. So far we have seen nothing.
No reason not to buy your story except for your lack of information.
I've done really well with it. Believe me or don't believe me!Comment
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if she's already a webmaster model, why would she need you...Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
You misread my initial post.. im not talking about a model.. but a webmaster model that would own the site.. if the girl wants to quit after 3 months.. I wont like it but I would have made some very nice profit out of the experience... And keep im mind that im not talking about any kind of girl.. but a real hot one... AudreyLive would be nice.. j/k
remember, this thread wasn't started by a webmaster model, this thread was started by content. Granted, she was the content for a site that bore her name. I'm not personally attacking her, but it is just a reality that those behind the camera will make more than those in front.
but, if she quits after 3 months, doesn't that leave you stuck with your traffic trades, affiliates and customers that have paid up to that point? How are you going to handle them?Comment
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I want to beleive you.I've done really well with it. Believe me or don't believe me!
Youre revshare so 60% of "net" is just shy of 10% of gross on your avarage solo site. Soooo you pay exactly what the rest of us pay. You are not offering them a penny more then we are paying.
Please, get over yourself.Last edited by PerfectionGirls; 07-15-2004, 11:54 PM.SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.Comment
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So let me get this straight...you pay your models 60...and you pay your webmasters 50 . I'm not trying to be rude, but something just does not add up. I mean, do you really think that you as the webmaster are worth so little?Originally posted by boobmaster
http://www.meloncash.com/
I've done really well with it. Believe me or don't believe me!Last edited by CC; 07-15-2004, 11:53 PM.Comment
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They're human beings and deserve respect, fucktard!Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
Ok..... "Captain Save A Hoe"..... you go right ahead and save the world... one model at a time...
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You already know the answer to that.Originally posted by CC
So let me get this straight...you pay your models 60 of NET...and you pay your webmasters 50 of NET. Gotta love the new math I'm not trying to be rude, but something just does not add up (literally and figuratively!).
We already know the answer to that.
You're nitpicking.DomainerResource.com
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60% of NETOriginally posted by CC
So let me get this straight...you pay your models 60...and you pay your webmasters 50 . I'm not trying to be rude, but something just does not add up (literally and figuratively!).Comment
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No, what I was doing was fucking up, but I got it know, lol. He pays webmasters 50 of gross and models 60 of net (so says he)....possible, but just pretty ridiculous.Originally posted by IPK
You already know the answer to that.
We already know the answer to that.
You're nitpicking.Comment
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Originally posted by boobmaster
60% of NET
why not 95% ?Comment
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Read my post above Captian! Here.. I will move it down here for you.They're human beings and deserve respect, fucktard!
Youre revshare so 60% of "net" is just shy of 10% of gross on your avarage solo site. Soooo you pay exactly what the rest of us pay. You are not offering them a penny more then we are paying.
Get over yourself Captian Save A Hoe! hahahaSIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.Comment
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*Runs through thread waving a double-headed dildo around*
*whack!*
Oops. Sorry about that.---'-,-{@ Sassy Grrrl @}-'-,---
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Originally posted by Fizzgig
*Runs through thread waving a double-headed dildo around*
*whack!*
Oops. Sorry about that.
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You're cracking me up over hereOriginally posted by PerfectionGirls
Read my post above Captian! Here.. I will move it down here for you.
Youre revshare so 60% of "net" is just shy of 10% of gross on your avarage solo site. Soooo you pay exactly what the rest of us pay. You are not offering them a penny more then we are paying.
Get over yourself Captian Save A Hoe! hahaha Detective PG to the rescue!
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Ibill pays my affiliates. I pay the girls 60% of what's left over!Originally posted by CC
No, what I was doing was fucking up, but I got it know, lol. He pays webmasters 50 of gross and models 60 of net (so says he)....possible, but just pretty ridiculous.Comment
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You can make the % whatever the fuck you want as long you include terms that balance the effect.
By the same token, not all 50/50 RevShare's are equal. Some keep 100% of the exit traffic. Some don't have pop-ups at all.DomainerResource.com
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