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  • dropped9
    Registered User
    • Jan 2001
    • 26727

    #1

    Serious question for those of you who have fish..

    I have a 55 gallon tank with 4 oscars in it... Have had them since they were babys.. Now they are about anywhere from 3 inches to 4 1/2 - 5 inches in length....

    2 days ago one of them started doing something really funny.. Summersalts... I thought oh shit there he goes... But now its 2 days later and the fucker is still kicking flipping around the tank... He even grabbed himself a bite to eat...

    Anyone have any clue wtf is going on? Anything I can do to fix this?
  • nofx
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Nov 2002
    • 16826

    #2
    he swims like that always?

    Often times I wonder why
    There's love and hate, theres live or die.
    When sickness comes I must decide:
    When feelings go, theres suicide.

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    • Headless
      Registered User
      • Jan 2001
      • 26727

      #3
      Originally posted by nofx
      he swims like that always?
      Yeah just for the past 2 days... He is flipping around the tank... I've never seen anything like it...

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      • kenny
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        • Mar 2002
        • 7245

        #4
        he is on drugs
        7

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        • nofx
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Nov 2002
          • 16826

          #5
          maybe he broke a fin or something? is that possible?

          Often times I wonder why
          There's love and hate, theres live or die.
          When sickness comes I must decide:
          When feelings go, theres suicide.

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          • Headless
            Registered User
            • Jan 2001
            • 26727

            #6
            Originally posted by kenny
            he is on drugs
            Someone must of slipped him some acid then.. cause this is CRAZY!

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            • skillfull
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              • Apr 2003
              • 4716

              #7
              do you have any russian around ?
              it would explain a couple of thing, like why there is a 40 oz of vodka in the aquarium
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              • Headless
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                • Jan 2001
                • 26727

                #8
                Originally posted by nofx
                maybe he broke a fin or something? is that possible?
                I took as good of a look that i could and nothing seems physically wrong with him...

                The only thing I can maybe think of is hs swim bladder is fucked...

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                • Headless
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                  • Jan 2001
                  • 26727

                  #9
                  Originally posted by skillfull
                  do you have any russian around ?
                  it would explain a couple of thing, like why there is a 40 oz of vodka in the aquarium

                  HAHAHA Serge is that you under the covers? ;)

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                  • Sifu
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                    • Oct 2003
                    • 1791

                    #10
                    he is sick and will die in a day or 2, nothing you can really do
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                    • Headless
                      Registered User
                      • Jan 2001
                      • 26727

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Sifu
                      he is sick and will die in a day or 2, nothing you can really do
                      Its been 2 days!!!!! He is still kicking in the tank bro... Right now he is swiming upside down...

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                      • nofx
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Nov 2002
                        • 16826

                        #12
                        maybe he just decided 2 days ago that be wanted to be different. Fuck conforming and swimming normal.

                        Often times I wonder why
                        There's love and hate, theres live or die.
                        When sickness comes I must decide:
                        When feelings go, theres suicide.

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                        • Sifu
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                          • Oct 2003
                          • 1791

                          #13
                          yes he will be dead by tomorrow, sorry bro i have a 200 gallon salt water reef tank and have seen the same thing happen b4, actually i had a goby dye today
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                          • chodadog
                            Confirmed User
                            • Apr 2002
                            • 9736

                            #14
                            It sounds pretty terminal. When fish start leaning on their sides and things, it's a pretty good indication that they're about to croak. I have no idea what it could be exactly though.
                            26 + 6 = 1

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                            • twistyneck
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Jan 2002
                              • 4660

                              #15
                              He's done. Could be one of a million diseases but once they get the swirlies that is usually it. I've never seen one recover and I was in the fish gig for years.

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                              • Evil1
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                                • Mar 2002
                                • 3893

                                #16
                                seen it before, he'll be dead in a couple days.

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                                • Headless
                                  Registered User
                                  • Jan 2001
                                  • 26727

                                  #17
                                  the SWIRLIES?????????

                                  that sounds sick... Poor little guy.. All he wanted was to find misses right and make thousands of babys...

                                  They need to make an anti swirlie drop or something...

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                                  • Tam
                                    Rude Bitch
                                    • Jan 2001
                                    • 8534

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Headless


                                    I took as good of a look that i could and nothing seems physically wrong with him...

                                    The only thing I can maybe think of is hs swim bladder is fucked...
                                    This is exactly what it sounds like to me...... I had one do that once and he swam upside down for the longest time and then I found out what was wrong with him and had to get rid of him as it can't be fixed, or so I was told.

                                    I have one now that is probably a good 6-7 inches long and I have had him since he was maybe a 1/2 inch and he's a little fucker...... he eats everything I put in there except my algae eater.
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                                    • Furious_Male
                                      Doing the grind since 99
                                      • Oct 2003
                                      • 16884

                                      #19
                                      Swim bladder disease is common with Oscars. If he was big enough believe it or not he could get treated at a qualified establishment. As an avid hobbiest I do business with a guy that injects them with anti biotics.

                                      I am sure you dont want to go that far so at this point you will want to focus on keeping the other fish alive (in case there is a water quality or disease problem in your tank). Make sure your Amonia and Nitrite levels are in line. Do a small water change if they aren't.

                                      In the mean time try some aquarium salt (I dont use more then a teaspoon per gallon). If you can keep him from eating for a few days that may help to (if it is swim bladder disease). Also Paragon 2 is real good for treating disease. The problem with that is it kills the benificial bacteria in the tank as well so you really need to keep on top of the water quality as it regenerates the good bacteria after the treatment regimine is complete.

                                      Go to a good pet store. Look for someone older then 15 that looks like they may have half a brain. Hopefuly they can assist you further.
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                                      • SoundMan
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                                        • Nov 2003
                                        • 3471

                                        #20
                                        Check your water PH , also you may need a bigger tank.

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                                        • Headless
                                          Registered User
                                          • Jan 2001
                                          • 26727

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Tam


                                          This is exactly what it sounds like to me...... I had one do that once and he swam upside down for the longest time and then I found out what was wrong with him and had to get rid of him as it can't be fixed, or so I was told.

                                          I have one now that is probably a good 6-7 inches long and I have had him since he was maybe a 1/2 inch and he's a little fucker...... he eats everything I put in there except my algae eater.
                                          Funny you mention algae eaters... I had 2 of them in the tank... Last time I saw the 2nd one was about 3 weeks ago... Last week we had to move the tank into my new office room... Well we started scooping up all the fish... And whatya know... there is only 1 algae eater... where did he go? I have no freakin clue... just GONE! LOL

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                                          • nofx
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Nov 2002
                                            • 16826

                                            #22
                                            soundman, wtf is going on with the girl in your sig!?

                                            Often times I wonder why
                                            There's love and hate, theres live or die.
                                            When sickness comes I must decide:
                                            When feelings go, theres suicide.

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                                            • Headless
                                              Registered User
                                              • Jan 2001
                                              • 26727

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Furious_Male
                                              Swim bladder disease is common with Oscars. If he was big enough believe it or not he could get treated at a qualified establishment. As an avid hobbiest I do business with a guy that injects them with anti biotics.

                                              I am sure you dont want to go that far so at this point you will want to focus on keeping the other fish alive (in case there is a water quality or disease problem in your tank). Make sure your Amonia and Nitrite levels are in line. Do a small water change if they aren't.

                                              In the mean time try some aquarium salt (I dont use more then a teaspoon per gallon). If you can keep him from eating for a few days that may help to (if it is swim bladder disease). Also Paragon 2 is real good for treating disease. The problem with that is it kills the benificial bacteria in the tank as well so you really need to keep on top of the water quality as it regenerates the good bacteria after the treatment regimine is complete.

                                              Go to a good pet store. Look for someone older then 15 that looks like they may have half a brain. Hopefuly they can assist you further.

                                              Wow that was some great advice... I know when fishing for deep smallmouth you sometimes "pop" their swim blatter and some guys talk about using a needle to fix it... I believe this is the technique u are talking about... But thnks again for the advice! I'm gunna see what I can do...

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                                              • Tam
                                                Rude Bitch
                                                • Jan 2001
                                                • 8534

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Headless


                                                Funny you mention algae eaters... I had 2 of them in the tank... Last time I saw the 2nd one was about 3 weeks ago... Last week we had to move the tank into my new office room... Well we started scooping up all the fish... And whatya know... there is only 1 algae eater... where did he go? I have no freakin clue... just GONE! LOL
                                                He became dinner....... mine is hilarious, he will get hungry and start picking on my "sucker bastard" is what I call the algae eater.... when he does that I have to feed him or no telling what the shit he'll do to him.

                                                The other day, I swear to god I am not lying, he picked up the long air rock I have in the tank and started poking the sucker bastard with it........ I laughed til I hurt, he finally just threw it at him. He will rearrange my tank and everything.......... he's the funniest FISH I have ever seen.

                                                We can go and feed him, if someone else tries, he hides, but when I do, he'll come to the top and start doing this funny little dance for me.
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                                                • blazin
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                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                  • 2781

                                                  #25
                                                  Stress..........

                                                  Apparently this can happen if the fish is unduly stressed, which could be caused by anything from bad water conditions to being bullied by other fish
                                                  I don't endorse a god damn thing......

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                                                  • chodadog
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Apr 2002
                                                    • 9736

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Headless


                                                    Funny you mention algae eaters... I had 2 of them in the tank... Last time I saw the 2nd one was about 3 weeks ago... Last week we had to move the tank into my new office room... Well we started scooping up all the fish... And whatya know... there is only 1 algae eater... where did he go? I have no freakin clue... just GONE! LOL
                                                    I had the same problem. I had a couple of Bristlenose catfish. They were actually a breeding pair. I found one. It was just the remains of his head that hadn't been eaten though. =\

                                                    Such a pity. lol.
                                                    26 + 6 = 1

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                                                    • jimthefiend
                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                      • 18889

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Sifu
                                                      he is sick and will die in a day or 2, nothing you can really do
                                                      prolly


                                                      all kinds of weird shit they get


                                                      all your levels right?
                                                      get a test kit

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                                                      • Steve
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Feb 2001
                                                        • 6894

                                                        #28
                                                        Damn - hope you have a really good aquarium shop nearby. They can often point you in the right direction for medicating your sick fish. When I was into it, I was able to cure everything except these damn catfich from Vietnam called Puhroon Sharks. They dropped dead if you looked at em cross eyed.

                                                        Oscars are pretty hardy - and, because they are so popular, there is a good amount of published info out there on them. Do some Googling, or pick up a few reference books. I bet you can find something that will give the little guy a chance.

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                                                        • Gspothottie
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                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                          • 112

                                                          #29
                                                          your nitrate and ammonia levels might be high
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