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  • mrthumbs
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    • Apr 2002
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    #1

    ultimate video editting setup?

    What outboard gear and software (pc) do you recommend
    for video editting? Budget is not an issue (although it should be reasonable).

    And whats the best hardware/convertor to hookup an XL1S ?

    How do the pro's work it?
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    • billywatson
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      • Aug 2002
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      #2
      i shoot with a GL2 and edit/convert it all with Premiere. The only way to go, my friend.

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        • mrthumbs
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          • Apr 2002
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          #3
          if you're a video wizard hit me up on icq 160272407.

          i always pay for good advice.

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            • mrthumbs
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              • Apr 2002
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              #4
              Originally posted by billywatson
              i shoot with a GL2 and edit/convert it all with Premiere. The only way to go, my friend.
              GL2 vs XL1S whats the difference?

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                • JSA Matt
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                  • Aug 2003
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                  #5
                  premiere

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                    • billywatson
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                      • Aug 2002
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                      #6
                      lighter....really. i shot 2nd camera with an XL1 and by the end of the day my arm felt like it was about to fall off.



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                        • billywatson
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                          • Aug 2002
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                          #7
                          Premiere is a resource hog, but I love it.

                          How about instead of throwing up a stupid laffer you offer up some more advice, fucktard?

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                            • chowda
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                              • Jun 2003
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                              just to step back, im gonna try to shoot some stuff, are there any formats i should get minidv hi8 etc..?
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                                • vidvicious
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                                  • Oct 2002
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                                  #9
                                  the type of camera you have has no bearing on the edit suite .. first you need to figure out your present needs and future needs .. only from that point can you determine what type of edit suite would best suit you ..

                                  you did ask about hardware/software and bot about platforms right ?
                                  Cus Premier is only a platform .. nothing more, nothing less .. it will do what hundreds of other edit platforms will ..


                                  when determining your needs take these things into consideration ... Timeline becomes a huge factor when deciding as does, format , output, real time transitions, Real time editing, Compatible codecs, plug in's, Effects generators .... etc ..

                                  what is it you want to do .. Cut exsiting clips? Shoot and Simple straight Cuts for short vids? Long format edits for video or broadcast realise? DVD's or just plain ol' wmv's ..

                                  All these things I have mention will have a bearing on the type of system you need ...
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                                    • billywatson
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                                      i'd have to disagree -- a bit -- with vidvicious. Premiere is most than editing...I can convert my edited files to a zillion different formats, and with plug-ins, a zillion more. I've never used other editing software, only heard stuff, and from what I've heard, I stick with Adobe....

                                      I shoot miniDV. I like it. But again, I dunno any different, really....

                                      And whatever you do, get a 3 chip camera.

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                                        • mrthumbs
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                                          • Apr 2002
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                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by billywatson
                                          i'd have to disagree -- a bit -- with vidvicious. Premiere is most than editing...I can convert my edited files to a zillion different formats, and with plug-ins, a zillion more. I've never used other editing software, only heard stuff, and from what I've heard, I stick with Adobe....

                                          I shoot miniDV. I like it. But again, I dunno any different, really....

                                          And whatever you do, get a 3 chip camera.

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                                            • vidvicious
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                                              • Oct 2002
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                                              #12
                                              without a real time card .. premier is nothing but an edit platform ... and can be used on many different systems .. I'm not puttin gdone premier .. Personally I love it .. I'm just making the seperation between an edit platform and an edit suite .. anyone with a P2 can run some version of premier ...
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                                                • billywatson
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                                                  #13
                                                  Time card? Vid Card? I'm using my Dell with the card that came in it, and I'm cool...

                                                  what do you mean by time card??

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                                                    • fsfaz
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                                                      • Apr 2003
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                                                      The real pro's use Avid's on MAC's.

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                                                        • mrthumbs
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                                                          • Apr 2002
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                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by vidvicious

                                                          what is it you want to do .. Cut exsiting clips? Shoot and Simple straight Cuts for short vids? Long format edits for video or broadcast realise? DVD's or just plain ol' wmv's ..

                                                          All these things I have mention will have a bearing on the type of system you need ...
                                                          basicly i want to fuck around. so there is no proffesional goal (yet)
                                                          just want to get things going and play with all aspects. serious aspects to get used to it without any of the usual 'startup' concessions.

                                                          At this stage i have a decent cam that meets my requirements
                                                          now i need the gear and software to get some action out of it.

                                                          So basicly i want the perfect setting to fuck around and dont want
                                                          to do addiotional purchases/replacements by the time i get serious. always hate that. Does that make sense?

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                                                            • vidvicious
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                                                              • Oct 2002
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                                                              here learn something http://www.matrox.com/imaging/products/home.cfm

                                                              http://www.matrox.com/mga/workstation/video/home.cfm
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                                                                • vidvicious
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                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by mrthumbs


                                                                  basicly i want to fuck around. so there is no proffesional goal (yet)
                                                                  just want to get things going and play with all aspects. serious aspects to get used to it without any of the usual 'startup' concessions.

                                                                  At this stage i have a decent cam that meets my requirements
                                                                  now i need the gear and software to get some action out of it.

                                                                  So basicly i want the perfect setting to fuck around and dont want
                                                                  to do addiotional purchases/replacements by the time i get serious. always hate that. Does that make sense?
                                                                  Simple then .. a p4 with min of 512 ram and 120 drive .. Premier would be good .. but i fyou don't know editing a goodstarter program is Videowave or Veags 4 ..

                                                                  A p4 should have a good graphics card .. and IEE 6 pin in (fire wire)
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                                                                    • billywatson
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                                                                      I know about those matrox cards, and brotha, I gotta tell ya...my work stands up just fine with the $1,000 add on...

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                                                                        • billywatson
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                                                                          i meant to say WITHOUT the $1,000 card....

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                                                                            • vidvicious
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                                                                              try Divx as a codecs .. it's much better then wmv much less of a break up in compression
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                                                                                • JSA Matt
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                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by fsfaz
                                                                                  The real pro's use Avid's on MAC's.
                                                                                  http://www.avid.com/products/xpressdv/

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                                                                                    • chowda
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                                                                                      • Jun 2003
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                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      so hi8 is not the way to go it seems then?
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                                                                                        • billywatson
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                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Premeire lets me spit it out in MPEG1, 2, DVD, CVD, SVCD, DivX, and a bunch of other formats....I've tweeked it, but I'm always learning...my partner last night set me up with DivX 4.12 as a matter of fact....

                                                                                          I think this is a good thread...not much on this stuff, and it's fucking tricky

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                                                                                            • billywatson
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                                                                                              I know about the Mac thing, too...and people who are editing swear by Mac...but I just can't do it.

                                                                                              No way. My shit does the job just fine, and while Premiere does lock up from time to time, I'm still hanging with it...

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                                                                                                • vidvicious
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                                                                                                  actually the mac platform .. Final cut pro .. is an awsome system .. has much more real time features then premier. such as disolves and wipes ... A g4 is a great set up .. add a RTMAC card and you're spiting out broadcast quality
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                                                                                                    • vidvicious
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                                                                                                      Originally posted by billywatson
                                                                                                      I know about the Mac thing, too...and people who are editing swear by Mac...but I just can't do it.

                                                                                                      No way. My shit does the job just fine, and while Premiere does lock up from time to time, I'm still hanging with it...
                                                                                                      use it till it's broke I always say ..
                                                                                                      BTW Premeir on my P4 with a simple Osprey card for analog ins does me fine .. how ever I have heard some great things about DVXpress .. Gonna have to look into that one of these days ..
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                                                                                                        • billywatson
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                                                                                                          yea, i dunno about analog in's at all...thank goodness. are you pulling in shit from old vid tapes or something???

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                                                                                                            • billywatson
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                                                                                                              actually the mac platform .. Final cut pro .. is an awsome system .. has much more real time features then premier. such as disolves and wipes

                                                                                                              i'll always say this loud, and i'll say it proud:

                                                                                                              dude, we're PORNOGRAPHERS...not artists...LOL

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                                                                                                                • SoundMan
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                                                                                                                  • Nov 2003
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                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Sony "vegas" sofware recieved better reviews then premier:

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                                                                                                                    • mrthumbs
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                                                                                                                      thanks for the suberb input: billy, bhutocracy and vidvicious

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                                                                                                                        • Pornwolf
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                                                                                                                          Vegas is just as powerful as premiere, it renders faster and it's easier to use. We don't do incredible movie quality effects so it's really more important to use something that's easy to learn and master.
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                                                                                                                            • dicknixon
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                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              I use a dual xeon 2.4 with 1.5 GB & scsi 320

                                                                                                                              If you use the right encoders, you can really speed things up with multiple processors. Or even for codecs like xvid (that only uses one) . . I render like 5 - 6 scenes at once. If you set your processor affinity correctly, it is quite productive.

                                                                                                                              I have a supermicro X5DA8 . . . a dual processor box is cheaper than you'd think . .


                                                                                                                              Oh . .and for an editing package. . (especially for porn vids), Vegas can't be beat because of the little resources (in comparison to premier) it uses . . not to mention it's ability to run multiple instances flawlesly.
                                                                                                                              Last edited by dicknixon; 12-10-2003, 10:10 PM.

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                                                                                                                                • SGS
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by vidvicious
                                                                                                                                  try Divx as a codecs .. it's much better then wmv much less of a break up in compression
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                                                                                                                                    • Mikey_219Inc
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                                                                                                                                      firewire into premiere ... chop and render ... bada bing.

                                                                                                                                      i recommend huffyyuv codec for avi ... and a couple big fast hard drives wouldnt hurt. I switched my memory to rambus and that speeds up the rendering a bit ...
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                                                                                                                                        • erraticimpact
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                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by mrthumbs
                                                                                                                                          What outboard gear and software (pc) do you recommend
                                                                                                                                          for video editting? Budget is not an issue (although it should be reasonable).

                                                                                                                                          And whats the best hardware/convertor to hookup an XL1S ?

                                                                                                                                          How do the pro's work it?
                                                                                                                                          Check out Pinnacle Systems --> http://www.pinnaclesys.com/

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                                                                                                                                            • johnbosh
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                                                                                                                                                • Nbritte
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                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by vidvicious
                                                                                                                                                  try Divx as a codecs .. it's much better then wmv much less of a break up in compression
                                                                                                                                                  What happens when you use Divx and most of your surfers dont have the codec installed? Think about it they get a trial membership say 5 days spend 1 day trying to figure out why the movies dont work another day trying to get support a third day getting the codec installed and their 4th day canceling and going someplace they dont have to upgrade their system to have access to movies.just my

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                                                                                                                                                    • NoAngel
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                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Pornwolf
                                                                                                                                                      Vegas is just as powerful as premiere, it renders faster and it's easier to use. We don't do incredible movie quality effects so it's really more important to use something that's easy to learn and master.

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                                                                                                                                                        • Aza
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                                                                                                                                                          try Divx as a codecs .. it's much better then wmv much less of a break up in compression
                                                                                                                                                          Yeah, but watch out when DivX contact you asking for licencing fees for using their codecs. They wanted a stupid amount of money depending on how many members we had etc etc, we stopped using divx right after that
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                                                                                                                                                                • Anothers
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                                                                                                                                                                  like vidvicious sad

                                                                                                                                                                  stick to something like good matrox video card and premiere

                                                                                                                                                                  you will have REAL TIME video effects in premiere
                                                                                                                                                                  (with normal video cards you will always i mean ALWAYS have NOT REAL TIME video effects - delay will only depend on your computer speed)

                                                                                                                                                                  and with proper video card you can even make tapes ready for tv stations (BETA) offcourse you will need betavideorecorder for this

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                                                                                                                                                                    • SGS
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                                                                                                                                                                      The best video advice comes from Quiet.

                                                                                                                                                                      He is the number one guy in this field.
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