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Well, I'm not going to get into the middle of this but I do have a couple of comments to make.
First, the ex-employee. I know for a FACT that she did not give jimmy3way those screen shots. I know this because before the company was revealed I talked to jimmy about the whole thing in icq. He categorically confirmed that Tam had nothing to do with what he had in his possession, and I have icq logs to prove it.
Next, the ex-employee. I've known Tam for YEARS. Done business with her. Been her friend. Talked to her about alot of things over these years. I've also talked to her about her departure from PIB, since it happened and even before. She did not, would not, and has no plans to expose any of her former employers confidential information. Period. Once again I've got icq logs to prove that.
ANYONE who makes implied allegations that she had something to do with this is either stupid or lying or both.
I'm amazed that someone from PIB thought it was a good idea to air more of their own dirty laundry in public over these allegations. Just fucking amazed.
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Might as well ask now cause when you get to Vegas, all of them require payment. I didn't meet one girl outside of the porn industry or wasn't a hooker the whole time last year. I was shocked.
4 years ago we picked up some hoochies on the strip while driving up and down , they werent the best looking but hey
HLAH BLAH I WAS PAYED OFF OR FELL FOR ROD's EXCUSED AND AM MAKING A FOOL OF MY REP WHEN MY REP WAS ALREADY IN BAD STANDARDS TO BEGIN WITH AND AM LYING THROUGH MY TEETH RIGHT NOW BLAH BLAH BLAH BLA
Just pay up fuckers. Your company owes me for 14 joins that were shown in the screenshots PLUS joins shaved from before june and after september. When can I expect my check? Your company owes me money, simple, I will NOT take no for an answer. Saying you won't pay me says you are thieves, now own up and make good on the "we don't shave" statements in pibcash.com or feel the wrath of an angry and vengeful webmaster. Your name will be 10000% useless after this is through. by the way, I am still expecting a call from Rod. I sent an email to [email protected] with my tele #. I expect that call by the morning. Do NOT ignore me. I am REALLY fucking pissed off right now and cranky as fuck.
oh and don't get any funny ideas by putting my check's on "stop payment" or closing my account and witholding funds for expressing my opinion. You only send a measely +/- $300 a month to me but it's the principle. Again.. pay up or I will never quit, nothing will stop me, no lawer, no papers, no subpena's. I calculatet approx 900 would be owed to me from sales shaved from time I joined until june and from sept to now. Add the 420 shown shaved in those stats that brings it to 1320. I expect to see that check has been mailed to me by tomorow morning as well. If you wonder who I am just follow the "www" and you will figure it out. .. oh fuck it, I'll make it easy... #11 I got nothing to hide. I put trust in yoru company and I even wished this was all a sad joke, but the second previous month stats got blocked and all these funky hitless signups aoocured last month.. well, I lost trust in your company.
You can be tried as accesory to fraud you know that right? I have researched this with many knowledgable webmasters and even 2 lawyers today. I can easy have you both extradited to canada on fraud and embezlement charges and it would NOT cost me a thing since it is a group of webmasters living in canada that have been stolen from as well, it becomes a federal supported case (to put it in laymens terms). Do the right thing guys. Pay up what is owed to webmasters. We all know your boss' track record and near million he has squandered from various webmasters and previous programs and bussiness relations in just this past short while.
Originally posted by Kimmykim Next, the ex-employee. I've known Tam for YEARS. Done business with her. Been her friend. Talked to her about alot of things over these years. I've also talked to her about her departure from PIB, since it happened and even before. She did not, would not, and has no plans to expose any of her former employers confidential information. Period. Once again I've got icq logs to prove that.
ANYONE who makes implied allegations that she had something to do with this is either stupid or lying or both.
I'm amazed that someone from PIB thought it was a good idea to air more of their own dirty laundry in public over these allegations. Just fucking amazed.
Originally posted by Kimmykim Well, I'm not going to get into the middle of this but I do have a couple of comments to make.
First, the ex-employee. I know for a FACT that she did not give jimmy3way those screen shots. I know this because before the company was revealed I talked to jimmy about the whole thing in icq. He categorically confirmed that Tam had nothing to do with what he had in his possession, and I have icq logs to prove it.
Next, the ex-employee. I've known Tam for YEARS. Done business with her. Been her friend. Talked to her about alot of things over these years. I've also talked to her about her departure from PIB, since it happened and even before. She did not, would not, and has no plans to expose any of her former employers confidential information. Period. Once again I've got icq logs to prove that.
ANYONE who makes implied allegations that she had something to do with this is either stupid or lying or both.
I'm amazed that someone from PIB thought it was a good idea to air more of their own dirty laundry in public over these allegations. Just fucking amazed.
Originally posted by sixpack It seems that a lot of you have already determined that pibcash is guilty of shaving from some alleged screen shots from
our administrative area. This response is not intended to cause mass debate between the staff at pibcash and the webmaster
community. I will simply state a few facts here now as I know them.
1) In the time frame of these screen shots shown in these threads I personally did NOT have access to pibcash
administration area. This is something only the former manager and Rconn had access to. I can not swear that any parts of
these are false. I do believe them to be altered. I believe the pages where "saved as" not screen shots.
2) When I did recieve full access to the stats about the 1st of October, this is not the way I sawthe stats pages being
reported. There are a couple of columns in there that I have never seen "live" in the stats area. (Shown joins, shown hits)
3) There has only been one employee fired between that time frame and now.
4) This same ex-employee told me and others that they felt threatened by my presence in the company and that they though I
was after their job. And if they where to loose there job they would "get even" with the "company".
After several weeks everything came to a head and a decision was forced upon rconn, one that he did not want to have to
make, but did. He took control of the company and fired this employee on or about Oct 5th, 2003. The "war" including a
number of alleged threats has raged on since this point to where we are now, on the public forums explaining all of the
past employee issues. I am trying to stay professional here and would really love to "tell it like it was" but will
refrain.
6) We moved the sites to a new host last month and in the process did loose some databases.(This can be verified by the
new host)
7) As a long time webmaster I do not believe in shaving my fellow webmasters and if I had seen any signs of this I would
have quit at that point.
8) Dec 8th 2003 I was asked to take over all control of PibCash. I think it could be a great program again and although I
have had alot of say in the past month or two I will now be in control of all daily actions and will assume responsibility
for my decisions. Rconn has promised to stay hands off.
9) I have been at most shows for the past couple of years alot of you know me and know you can trust me.
10) I will not hide; I have nothing to hide from. I will be in Vegas and most other shows this year.
11) My first effort to gain trust with any and all of you is, that I have hired the porn posse, they are installing
"ClickTruth" to do audits and will do continuing audits for all of our sites. This is a permanent solution not temporary.
12) I have let several webmasters in our administration area already including Edge of porn posse and they have seen the
same thing I see daily. I will allow him and other trusted people access to the administration area at any time. I will
never ever have anything to hide from anyone.
13) All past sales are there, clicks where lost in the server move.
I have not seen any signs of wrong doing here at PibCash and can only talk about what I have seen. Rconn is a good person
and has just put alot of trust in the wrong places. I will be working hard to never let that happen here again.
FOR ANY OF YOU WHO HAVE DOUBTED THAT THIS FORMER EMPLOYEE WAS THE ONE THAT STARTED ALL THIS DID YOU HAPPEN TO READ THIS! http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=206558
I suppose these are all faked stats too?
I have a question for those of you who doubt that this is real. If the employee copied the html code then altered it to
create these pages then did SHE also copy the database so that SHE could fill in the correct numbers for the affiliates?
FUNNY THE EX EMPLOYEE HAPPENS TO BE A "SHE"!
There would be no need to copy databases they are loaded when the page loads, simple copy and paste, this happened on Sep 4th 30 days before SHE was fired. Hmmm
son, this post is a bad career move.
I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.
I dont know anyone from PIB cash accept the former employee TAM
This lady was a hard worker and did alot for their company, made their chat board busy and since she left its a ghost town.
I dont know what the real story is, but I really liked Tam and couldnt see her doing anything as nasty as changing stats or doing anything that was accused here.
Originally posted by MaskedMan Can I ask this question... why does Sixpack's screen shot still show what the payout was, what was really brought in and what the difference was??
They still didn't payout what was actually brought in!!!
BUSTED!!
hahah, all that time spent coming up with a story and you just blew it to shit... lol
Originally posted by Platinum Dave This lady was a hard worker and did alot for their company, made their chat board busy and since she left its a ghost town.
I agree with you Dave, TAM was the only thing holding PIB together, without her it fell apart.
I finally removed all their links today, what a hassel, 84 domains. Seeya! and I wouldn't want to BE YA!!!
The screen shot are there to show how easy this crap is thats all, I'm no expert and that took me 10 minutes. If you want do do your own I could just give you the html everyone else seems to have it. And all prev months sales are in the webmaster area for all months, I wrote that before.
My ICQ is 158480125
Originally posted by sixpack The screen shot are there to show how easy this crap is thats all, I'm no expert and that took me 10 minutes. If you want do do your own I could just give you the html everyone else seems to have it.
My ICQ is 158480125
the screenshot you see everyday has 2 columns,, brought and diff.... what are those all about? huh?
Originally posted by sixpack 1) In the time frame of these screen shots shown in these threads I personally did NOT have access to pibcash administration area. This is something only the former manager and Rconn had access to. I can not swear that any parts of these are false. I do believe them to be altered. I believe the pages where "saved as" not screen shots.
This is complete bullshit but a nice way to cover your ass if and when the shit really comes down.
Originally posted by sixpack 2) When I did recieve full access to the stats about the 1st of October, this is not the way I saw the stats pages being reported. There are a couple of columns in there that I have never seen "live" in the stats area. (Shown joins, shown hits)
Again this is bullshit.
Originally posted by sixpack 4) This same ex-employee told me and others that if they where to loose there job they would "get even" with the "company".
If this were the case then the employee in question (Tam) would have buried pib as soon as she was let go.
Originally posted by sixpack I am trying to stay professional here and would really love to "tell it like it was" but will refrain.
PAY ATTENTION TO THIS PART
You will refrain from telling it like it is because you do not know how to tell the truth. If you are Mr. Honest then can you please explain the fact that you continued to receive automatic deposit payments from Topbucks for weeks after your departure from that company? An honest person would have informed them of there error instead of bragging about it and pocketing the money.
Originally posted by sixpack 6) We moved the sites to a new host last month and in the process did loose some databases.(This can be verified by the new host)
Since we are verifying things from the new host I suggest we also verify from the old host that Rodney owes them thousands of dollars and that the reason part of the pib database was lost is because the old host shut your servers down when they found out that you were jumping ship.
Originally posted by sixpack 7) As a long time webmaster I do not believe in shaving my fellow webmasters and if I had seen any signs of this I would have quit at that point.
You should be in politics with your ability to make up smooth stuff like this.
Originally posted by sixpack 8) Dec 8th 2003 I was asked to take over all control of PibCash. I think it could be a great program again and although I have had alot of say in the past month or two I will now be in control of all daily actions and will assume responsibility for my decisions. Rconn has promised to stay hands off.
Can you explain why retention has gone to shit since you started to have some say in this program?
Originally posted by sixpack 9) I have been at most shows for the past couple of years alot of you know me and know you can trust me.
Yes you have been at most of the shows but your statement of trust is the biggest load of crap I have ever seen. You are a lair. Anybody that believes a word that you have to say after this needs to have their head examined.
Originally posted by sixpack 10) I will not hide; I have nothing to hide from. I will be in Vegas and most other shows this year.
You have plenty to hide from. More details will be coming out in the following months.
Originally posted by sixpack 11) My first effort to gain trust with any and all of you is, that I have hired the porn posse, they are installing "ClickTruth" to do audits and will do continuing audits for all of our sites. This is a permanent solution not temporary.
This is what we refer to as damage control.
Originally posted by sixpack 12) I have let several webmasters in our administration area already including Edge of porn posse and they have seen the same thing I see daily. I will allow him and other trusted people access to the administration area at any time. I will never ever have anything to hide from anyone.
You let several webmasters in. How thoughtful of you. That would not have been needed if your company had not screwed people over in the first place. You and Rodney have personally been aware of these screen shots since shortly after Tam was let go. You have had plenty of time for your programmer to alter things. I anxiously await his departure from pib and I truly hope that he has the guts to post the truth. I would not hold it against him since his job is to do what his boss tells him to do.
Originally posted by sixpack 13) All past sales are there, clicks where lost in the server move.
I have not seen any signs of wrong doing here at PibCash and can only talk about what I have seen.
You have been guilty of many wrong doings yourself since you started with pib. I will let you think about that for awhile. Don?t worry I fully intend on informing everybody of your actions when the time is right.
Originally posted by sixpack 14) FUNNY THE EX EMPLOYEE HAPPENS TO BE A "SHE"!
Originally posted by sixpack The screen shot are there to show how easy this crap is thats all, I'm no expert and that took me 10 minutes. If you want do do your own I could just give you the html everyone else seems to have it. And all prev months sales are in the webmaster area for all months, I wrote that before.
My ICQ is 158480125
Originally posted by MaskedMan Can I ask this question... why does Sixpack's screen shot still show what the payout was, what was really brought in and what the difference was??
They still didn't payout what was actually brought in!!!
BUSTED!!
Not defending them AT ALL, but maybe being PPS the "brought" column would show how much money that affiliate has actually made for them?
Originally posted by Evil1
the screenshot you see everyday has 2 columns,, brought and diff.... what are those all about? huh?
I AM NOT DEFENDING PIB, but the "brought in" amount is how much the surfer paid (ie. trial plus conversion = $39.87) they paid out a flat $35.00 so the difference was $4.87
Originally posted by 12clicks son, this post is a bad career move.
That summed it up quite well.
And agreed what KK said. Tam rocks.
Also this cute little escape-goat ex-employee trend (started by Matrix) ... um .... get a new sound byte, companies, cause that one is old, weak and just plain played out!!
Originally posted by sixpack The screen shot are there to show how easy this crap is thats all, I'm no expert and that took me 10 minutes. If you want do do your own I could just give you the html everyone else seems to have it. And all prev months sales are in the webmaster area for all months, I wrote that before.
My ICQ is 158480125
you showed us a before and after.. but on both.. you have the columns Payout, Brought and Diff....! !?
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