Registered letter from German Gov't today concerning SleazyDream....

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  • Rictor
    Old Timer
    • Jan 2001
    • 12208

    #101
    Isn't that German traffic just burning your bandwidth anyway or are you redirecting them to a dialer?

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    • Jay3
      Confirmed User
      • Jul 2003
      • 246

      #102
      Fuck them....who gives a shit what they think......but I would not go to germany if I were you.
      <A HREF="http://www.contentlotto.com/index.php?account=jay3"><IMG SRC="http://www.contentlotto.com/images/contentlottobutton.gif"></A>

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      • Quotealex
        Confirmed User
        • Sep 2001
        • 6265

        #103
        I wouldn't take this letter lightly if I were you SleazyDream. I'm sure you wouldn't want to have a arrest warrant on your head from a foreign country! You should assess how important your German traffic is to you. If it is not worth shit, you should simply redirect it to one of the maintream sites you own.

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        • yikester
          Registered User
          • Nov 2002
          • 49

          #104
          Nobody should be worried about going to Germany just because of this kind of letter. To be arrested there has to be a trial first. And what do you think will be the laughter in the world, if a german judge comes up with an arrest warrant for a foreign citizen for publishing porn in a foreign country?

          BUT... You should get to know what's behind all this.

          Some time ago a young guy was fired from his school and left with no degree at all. He then went to the school and killed some teachers. Authorities later told the public that he had played violent computer games.

          Politiciens jumped on the bandwaggon and created a new law to protect the youth better. And now these people try to crank down the german porn industry, because this crazy guy shot his teachers. Think about it and tell me, if you can find any connection between shooting teachers and porn ...

          Another department of the german government conducted a study and found that porn does not harm the youth in any way. So ...

          As another poster already has said. The new law requires porn customers to verify they are of legal age. This has to be done face-to-face.

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          • jigg
            Confirmed User
            • Feb 2002
            • 2527

            #105
            Originally posted by Alex from Montreal
            I wouldn't take this letter lightly if I were you SleazyDream. I'm sure you wouldn't want to have a arrest warrant on your head from a foreign country! You should assess how important your German traffic is to you. If it is not worth shit, you should simply redirect it to one of the maintream sites you own.
            so just how are they going to put an arrest warrant on him. unless he has his real name and home address in the domain whois informaion?

            i dont use my real name and have a foreign address just how are they to find where i really am? send a registered mail to my grandma telling her i have porn sites?
            ......
            eight,eight,two,eight,eight,four,two
            ......

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            • Quotealex
              Confirmed User
              • Sep 2001
              • 6265

              #106
              Originally posted by jigg


              so just how are they going to put an arrest warrant on him. unless he has his real name and home address in the domain whois informaion?
              I hope you are aware that ICCAN now requires that all domains must have real information of the owner?

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              • dchottie
                Confirmed User
                • Feb 2003
                • 894

                #107
                HAHA.. welcome to the porn world Sleazy. We got two of those letters and it's from some sort of commission that they've formed for the welfare of child and family. The funny thing is the part of our site that they pointed out was our free content in our webmasters area. So, someone had to signup to access it to even see it. Got the first letter several months ago and the second about a month ago. So far we're just ignoring them since we are not under German law nor are our servers housed in Germany. There isn't much they can legally do to us.

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                • jigg
                  Confirmed User
                  • Feb 2002
                  • 2527

                  #108
                  Originally posted by Alex from Montreal


                  I hope you are aware that ICCAN now requires that all domains must have real information of the owner?
                  it's real
                  it just lists a company name and my other home address.
                  ......
                  eight,eight,two,eight,eight,four,two
                  ......

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                  • mardigras
                    Bon temps!
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 14194

                    #109
                    [Tears for Fears playing in the background]
                    ev-ry-body wants to rule the...internet
                    .

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                    • pamphage
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 3569

                      #110
                      Originally posted by Mutt
                      tell them you hate Jews and have actually killed a few of them - maybe that'll make them leave you and your site alone.
                      SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR.
                      Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.
                      Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.

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                      • pamphage
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 3569

                        #111
                        Originally posted by dchottie
                        HAHA.. welcome to the porn world Sleazy. We got two of those letters and it's from some sort of commission that they've formed for the welfare of child and family. The funny thing is the part of our site that they pointed out was our free content in our webmasters area. So, someone had to signup to access it to even see it. Got the first letter several months ago and the second about a month ago. So far we're just ignoring them since we are not under German law nor are our servers housed in Germany. There isn't much they can legally do to us.
                        thats what i was wondering. germany is sending this to all webmasters across the world? wtf? it's not like canada would extradite sleazydream to germany...(well not for this at least hehe)
                        SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR.
                        Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.
                        Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.

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                        • DVTimes
                          xxx
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 31650

                          #112
                          If your not in Germany, why do you care????

                          German law does not cover Canada does it????
                          XXX

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                          • http
                            Confirmed User
                            • Oct 2001
                            • 1811

                            #113
                            Sleazydream,

                            send an email to [email protected] and a fax to 0049-40-3007-2247 "Redaktion, Der Spiegel", and tell them about this,

                            a tiny german agency trying to rule the world with german tax money. Mention the costs and that many others are getting those letters too. People are almost over the edge due to tax waste and I am almost willing to bet that they will print a few lines about this issue. They like little stories like this. I even remember them printing a hardcore URL not too long ago. If they do this that should bring you 100,000 visitors for sure. Spiegel is the biggest news magazine in europe with 6 mio. or so readers



                            ---
                            I am almost certain that the departments of youth (not justice) of the single german states (not the federal department) which fund this agency does not even know that these 1,2 or 3 people are actually using their funds to send letters and whatnot to non-germans in non-germany.

                            I bet they'd be in trouble if the higher ups find out. They definitely will if the "Spiegel" writes about it.

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                            • http
                              Confirmed User
                              • Oct 2001
                              • 1811

                              #114
                              now I remember, that other article was about voyeurweb and they wrote "voyeurweb.com"

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                              • sandman!
                                Icq: 14420613
                                • Mar 2001
                                • 15427

                                #115
                                I got one of those letters that i was added to the index sounds about the same thing as yours sent to me certified mail and it was in german a few years ago i did nothing. Funny thing is it was a domain that was hardly ever used out of the 100 domains i have owned over the years tat is the only domain i ever got a letter for.
                                Imagine the cost if all the domains i own got thier own letter
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                                • Pornwolf
                                  Drunk and Unruly
                                  • Jan 2002
                                  • 22712

                                  #116
                                  Heh heh, German hate mail. I envy you Sleazy. Hopefully one day i will have sites that piss off many different governments too.
                                  I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

                                  Webair, bitches.

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                                  • RawAlex
                                    So Fucking Banned
                                    • Oct 2003
                                    • 9465

                                    #117
                                    Simepl solutions? Geo block germany, and send them to the most expensive and persistant dialer and console fuckdom you can find. Put up a big notice that says "Because the German Government had their heads up their collective asses, I have been forced to make you suffer. Vote the assholes out".

                                    That should work just fine.

                                    Alex

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                                    • VirtuMike
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • May 2002
                                      • 2483

                                      #118
                                      Dear Adolph,

                                      Censorship worked very well in the 1930's and 1940's. I am surprised to see that your government has returned to this policy so quickly after losing the war and having to had your food airlifted in by America to avoid starvation.

                                      I understand your concerns with my website, which has nothing to do with your beautiful country. However, there comes a time where you have to look at the world and realize that your country cannot rule it. I notice that you have on several occasions tried and failed. I would recommend you read whatever history books you have remaining that are not censored and take notes.

                                      And by the way, I find your German Sheise videos and the traditions behind them offensive. But I understand that they are part of your culture and I invite you to have a splendid evening of dining upon the feces of your spouses.

                                      Sincerely,
                                      The guy who's grandfather helped overthrough your last censoring leader
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                                      • bawdy
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Feb 2002
                                        • 1424

                                        #119
                                        australia is next

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                                        • BigPinPin
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • May 2003
                                          • 894

                                          #120
                                          I am happy that i left this fucking country...and that i can say now...with my own words:



                                          GERMANY !!! KISS MY FUCKING ASS

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                                          • xato
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Mar 2003
                                            • 1205

                                            #121
                                            Originally posted by http
                                            Sleazydream,

                                            send an email to [email protected] and a fax to 0049-40-3007-2247 "Redaktion, Der Spiegel", and tell them about this,

                                            a tiny german agency trying to rule the world with german tax money. Mention the costs and that many others are getting those letters too. People are almost over the edge due to tax waste and I am almost willing to bet that they will print a few lines about this issue. They like little stories like this. I even remember them printing a hardcore URL not too long ago. If they do this that should bring you 100,000 visitors for sure. Spiegel is the biggest news magazine in europe with 6 mio. or so readers



                                            ---
                                            I am almost certain that the departments of youth (not justice) of the single german states (not the federal department) which fund this agency does not even know that these 1,2 or 3 people are actually using their funds to send letters and whatnot to non-germans in non-germany.

                                            I bet they'd be in trouble if the higher ups find out. They definitely will if the "Spiegel" writes about it.
                                            VERY good idea!!!

                                            plus, you are not located in germany, so the german law doesnt apply to you, so dont give a fuck...

                                            Bad Lamborghini Crash

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                                            • xato
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Mar 2003
                                              • 1205

                                              #122
                                              Originally posted by RawAlex
                                              Simepl solutions? Geo block germany, and send them to the most expensive and persistant dialer and console fuckdom you can find. Put up a big notice that says "Because the German Government had their heads up their collective asses, I have been forced to make you suffer. Vote the assholes out".

                                              That should work just fine.

                                              Alex

                                              i second that

                                              Bad Lamborghini Crash

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                                              • BigPinPin
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • May 2003
                                                • 894

                                                #123
                                                thats right oh i see it already in TV.....send it to SPIEGEL via FAX

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                                                • the-young-shark
                                                  Registered User
                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                  • 74

                                                  #124
                                                  Originally posted by RawAlex
                                                  Simepl solutions? Geo block germany, and send them to the most expensive and persistant dialer and console fuckdom you can find. Put up a big notice that says "Because the German Government had their heads up their collective asses, I have been forced to make you suffer. Vote the assholes out".

                                                  That should work just fine.

                                                  Alex
                                                  Hey man, don't make it harder for us foreigners to access your site.. I was planning on advertising on Sleazydream.com, but if they will redirect me because I am located in Germany it will be hard to check and see my banner on there..
                                                  ICQ 237641536

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                                                  • Corleone
                                                    C.R.E.A.M
                                                    • Apr 2003
                                                    • 15262

                                                    #125
                                                    you're living in another country so you can shit on the german law. all you've to care about is your own law...

                                                    I#m from germany and i hate this laws ...

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                                                    • Slinx
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • May 2003
                                                      • 823

                                                      #126
                                                      Sorry for bumping this thread.

                                                      How is the status today?

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                                                      • Preacher
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Feb 2003
                                                        • 2970

                                                        #127
                                                        Originally posted by SleazyDream


                                                        that's not really an option if they block my ip......
                                                        isps do not censor anything here (yet)

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                                                        • latinasojourn
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                          • 3191

                                                          #128
                                                          look, if the site in question is sleazydream.com it does not seem to be listed with ICRA.


                                                          ALL responsible adult webmaster should have their sites listed with ICRA.

                                                          it is the right thing to do, it is fast, easy, and fucking FREE.

                                                          it is effective.

                                                          all anyone has to do is set filitering on their browser and sleazydream.com will not show up when they surf.

                                                          all this other talk is mostly bullshit.

                                                          be proactive about making it difficult for kids to get on your sites.

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                                                          • IPK
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Sep 2003
                                                            • 4209

                                                            #129
                                                            dude that's insane, whatever they can't touch you
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                                                            • TheJimmy
                                                              ICQ- five seven 0 2 5 5 0
                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                              • 10747

                                                              #130
                                                              Originally posted by latinasojourn
                                                              ...

                                                              be proactive about making it difficult for kids to get on your sites.

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                                                              • fuelcell
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Jun 2003
                                                                • 1525

                                                                #131
                                                                Originally posted by The Other Steve
                                                                It's one of the joys of the internet - every country is going to start trying to impose their laws on the global internet community.

                                                                I think the only advice worth listening to so far was the guy who suggested filtering your traffic - plus I would be cautious if I were you and intended on travelling to Germany at any time.

                                                                People can laugh and make jokes of this but it only takes one arrest and conviction to wipe the smiles off everybody's face. You wouldn't want to be that one conviction.
                                                                Which is the ridiculous part of this whole thing. Fucking Arabs can't even deal with women and men sharing living quarters in their version of Big Brother. We'd all be criminals in Saudi Arabia.
                                                                Beat it. Nothing to see here.

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                                                                • Slinx
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                  • 823

                                                                  #132
                                                                  Originally posted by latinasojourn
                                                                  look, if the site in question is sleazydream.com it does not seem to be listed with ICRA.


                                                                  ALL responsible adult webmaster should have their sites listed with ICRA.

                                                                  it is the right thing to do, it is fast, easy, and fucking FREE.

                                                                  it is effective.

                                                                  all anyone has to do is set filitering on their browser and sleazydream.com will not show up when they surf.

                                                                  all this other talk is mostly bullshit.

                                                                  be proactive about making it difficult for kids to get on your sites.
                                                                  ICRA is not enought. They want that you go to a fucking post office and there you have to proof that you are 18+. After this, you get a dongle. And with this pice of shit you can access adult sites. Every site must be protected. The dongle is the key.

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                                                                  • doornx
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Nov 2003
                                                                    • 2531

                                                                    #133
                                                                    Originally posted by Joe Citizen


                                                                    Fisting, pissing, genocide and sauerkraut... you people have a lot to be ashamed of!
                                                                    LOL..and they are fucking you over for a couple of teasers
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                                                                    • deleteduser
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Sep 2001
                                                                      • 2218

                                                                      #134
                                                                      what they tell you is german law - it's pretty much different from us law. hit me up on icq and i can tell you more about it.

                                                                      have a nice day!
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                                                                      • Nismo
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                                                                        • May 2002
                                                                        • 4977

                                                                        #135
                                                                        i buy massive xxx dating traffic.

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                                                                        • Due
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Mar 2001
                                                                          • 3620

                                                                          #136
                                                                          There is too many replies so I didn't read them all.
                                                                          Just respond to them that if they put your name in that index you will sue them for copyright infrigment/trademark violation unless they are paying royaltee fees for using your name to promote their index
                                                                          Probably won't work but I would like to see them in the head when they read that
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                                                                          • VividLeslie
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • May 2003
                                                                            • 500

                                                                            #137
                                                                            Originally posted by Elli


                                                                            That sucks about the letter, Sleazy. I don't know if I would respond without consulting a lawyer first.
                                                                            Hey Scott,

                                                                            Yeah, I would definitely proceed extremely cautiously and see if there is a way to avoid acrimony with these folks. A good internet/international attorney consultation first would be a brilliant move.

                                                                            Best of luck buddy!

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                                                                            • LA Mike
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                              • 3056

                                                                              #138
                                                                              Sleazy, I have about 60 of those letters. For some reason they think their law is above our own local laws that we DO abide by

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                                                                              • foe
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • May 2002
                                                                                • 5246

                                                                                #139
                                                                                Originally posted by VirtuMike
                                                                                Dear Adolph,

                                                                                Censorship worked very well in the 1930's and 1940's. I am surprised to see that your government has returned to this policy so quickly after losing the war and having to had your food airlifted in by America to avoid starvation.

                                                                                I understand your concerns with my website, which has nothing to do with your beautiful country. However, there comes a time where you have to look at the world and realize that your country cannot rule it. I notice that you have on several occasions tried and failed. I would recommend you read whatever history books you have remaining that are not censored and take notes.

                                                                                And by the way, I find your German Sheise videos and the traditions behind them offensive. But I understand that they are part of your culture and I invite you to have a splendid evening of dining upon the feces of your spouses.

                                                                                Sincerely,
                                                                                The guy who's grandfather helped overthrough your last censoring leader

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                                                                                • alexg
                                                                                  IL4L.com
                                                                                  • Aug 2003
                                                                                  • 11287

                                                                                  #140
                                                                                  wtf, this sucks...
                                                                                  but you're not even from germany, right?

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                                                                                  • cayne
                                                                                    My time is coming...
                                                                                    • Jan 2004
                                                                                    • 7475

                                                                                    #141
                                                                                    Originally posted by funkmaster
                                                                                    ... yes, we germans are bad !!!
                                                                                    more than that.
                                                                                    If lesbian anal is wrong, I don't want to be right.

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                                                                                    • polish_aristocrat
                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                      • Jul 2002
                                                                                      • 40377

                                                                                      #142
                                                                                      They can close his site.
                                                                                      But they cannot take his sig revenue
                                                                                      I don't use ICQ anymore.

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