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  • HS-Trixxxia
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    • Mar 2002
    • 2946

    #351
    Actually, can someone confirm that the company name is Syndicated Audio Text Inc.? Perhaps you should be searching the other sites they may have under them that you are using too......Gillette may be fully functional there too.

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    • iwantchixx
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      • Oct 2002
      • 12860

      #352
      Originally posted by Trixxxia
      Actually, can someone confirm that the company name is Syndicated Audio Text Inc.? Perhaps you should be searching the other sites they may have under them that you are using too......Gillette may be fully functional there too.

      you got the company name right. I'm going through all my bank stubs and adding up sales, if I can frkin find all fo them, if the sales cashed at bank are the same as "sales shown" I will let you all know providing I can find every statement

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      • webgurl
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        • Aug 2002
        • 7954

        #353
        Originally posted by MaskedMan
        RConn had posted on his board his response with the same screen cap as here...

        but even that thread has been deleted.
        hmmmm .. that is something new that must have just happened !

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        • StuartD
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          • Jul 2002
          • 29903

          #354
          Originally posted by Trixxxia
          Actually, can someone confirm that the company name is Syndicated Audio Text Inc.? Perhaps you should be searching the other sites they may have under them that you are using too......Gillette may be fully functional there too.
          http://www.pibsupport.com/privacypolicy.htm

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          • Veterans Day
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            • Jul 2003
            • 8403

            #355
            Originally posted by webgurl


            hmmmm .. that is something new that must have just happened !
            ya he deleted his own thread, bye bye
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            • stevent37
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              • Aug 2002
              • 266

              #356
              I have nothing to say, just wanted to be in this thread

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              •  Smokey The Bear 
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                • Dec 2003
                • 3880

                #357
                Originally posted by stevent37
                I have nothing to say, just wanted to be in this thread
                Dont worry everything has already been said

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                • Veterans Day
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                  • Jul 2003
                  • 8403

                  #358
                  Originally posted by  Smokey The Bear 


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                  • Carrie
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                    • Apr 2002
                    • 3162

                    #359
                    Originally posted by iwantchixx



                    you got the company name right. I'm going through all my bank stubs and adding up sales, if I can frkin find all fo them, if the sales cashed at bank are the same as "sales shown" I will let you all know providing I can find every statement
                    I take it your ID# is on the screenshot?
                    Because as of a few minutes ago, you can no longer go back and check stats before November. Convenient, eh?

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                    • Nasty D
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                      • Dec 2002
                      • 2563

                      #360
                      Originally posted by stevent37
                      I have nothing to say, just wanted to be in this thread
                      what he said


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                      • HS-Trixxxia
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                        • Mar 2002
                        • 2946

                        #361
                        Originally posted by iwantchixx



                        you got the company name right. I'm going through all my bank stubs and adding up sales, if I can frkin find all fo them, if the sales cashed at bank are the same as "sales shown" I will let you all know providing I can find every statement
                        Can we be indiscrete and ask if your id# was on the screencap?

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                        • AaronM
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                          • Oct 2001
                          • 46917

                          #362
                          Originally posted by XxXotic
                          please, aaron you were well aware this was going on and you know damn well that screenshot is legit.
                          Not funny.

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                          • twistyneck
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Jan 2002
                            • 4660

                            #363
                            Originally posted by Carrie

                            I take it your ID# is on the screenshot?
                            Because as of a few minutes ago, you can no longer go back and check stats before November. Convenient, eh?
                            For real? Too funny.

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                            • Volantt
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                              • Nov 2003
                              • 745

                              #364
                              If everything was on the up and up, wouldn't it be business as usual for PIBcash? But it kinda worries me that the webmaster stat system is being reported as "unavailable" for past months.

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                              • J B
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                                • May 2002
                                • 1804

                                #365
                                Originally posted by Carrie

                                I take it your ID# is on the screenshot?
                                Because as of a few minutes ago, you can no longer go back and check stats before November. Convenient, eh?
                                I'm pretty sure quite a few pibcash webmasters use StatsRemote or RevStats, so they can still check their historical stats


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                                  • Aug 2001
                                  • 14486

                                  #366
                                  i am sad i didnt use them
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                                  • iggysick
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                                    • Mar 2003
                                    • 8743

                                    #367
                                    It's 7:40 am here

                                    Nice reading for good morning

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                                    • Hooper
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                                      • Jul 2001
                                      • 2210

                                      #368
                                      I think this is an important thread right now.

                                      Please take a moment to review it.

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                                      • Veterans Day
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                                        • Jul 2003
                                        • 8403

                                        #369
                                        Originally posted by Hooper
                                        I think this is an important thread right now.

                                        Please take a moment to review it.

                                        http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=206283
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                                        • Amputate Your Head
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                                          • Aug 2001
                                          • 39075

                                          #370
                                          Smokey, take that shit outta your sig or you will be dealt with.
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                                          • integrated
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                                            • Apr 2003
                                            • 3826

                                            #371
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                                            • Sly_RJ
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                                              • Feb 2002
                                              • 17042

                                              #372
                                              Originally posted by Carrie

                                              I take it your ID# is on the screenshot?
                                              Because as of a few minutes ago, you can no longer go back and check stats before November. Convenient, eh?
                                              Yes, his ID is listed. What's really funny is he commented to me a couple weeks ago about the strange stats he was seeing but I brushed it off as cookie troubles...
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                                              • Veterans Day
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                                                • Jul 2003
                                                • 8403

                                                #373
                                                Originally posted by Sly_RJ

                                                Yes, his ID is listed. What's really funny is he commented to me a couple weeks ago about the strange stats he was seeing but I brushed it off as cookie troubles...
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                                                • gin
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                                                  • Sep 2003
                                                  • 672

                                                  #374
                                                  Originally posted by Hooper
                                                  I think this is an important thread right now.

                                                  Please take a moment to review it.

                                                  http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=206283
                                                  he either did a good job.. or a HUGE fucking mistake.. if pibcash is going to defend themselves in court.. they will probably take him to court.... and if he can't prove that screen shot is 100% valid.. he's pretty much fucked least that's what i would think... unless they plan on just running or something

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                                                  • Dildozer
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                                                    • Jul 2002
                                                    • 7519

                                                    #375
                                                    can't beleive this thread isn't still top 10
                                                    huge BUMP!
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                                                    • Veterans Day
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                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                      • 8403

                                                      #376
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                                                      • Shoplifter
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                                                        • Jan 2002
                                                        • 5862

                                                        #377
                                                        I'm curious, can any affiliates correlate their stats with the alleged shaving stats?
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                                                        • SomeCreep
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                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                          • 26118

                                                          #378
                                                          Originally posted by Dildozer
                                                          can't beleive this thread isn't still top 10
                                                          huge BUMP!
                                                          yeah weird, this thread got really old, really fast

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                                                          • greentea
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                                                            • Mar 2002
                                                            • 6580

                                                            #379
                                                            another bites the dust
                                                            blunts

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                                                            • StuartD
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                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                              • 29903

                                                              #380
                                                              Originally posted by Shoplifter
                                                              I'm curious, can any affiliates correlate their stats with the alleged shaving stats?
                                                              Chances are though, if this actually is accurate, then a lot of people are thinking that they're owed a lot of money, or perhaps they are despite the shave... in which case, they may be holding their tongues hoping to still get that payout.
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                                                              • MetaMan
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                                                                • Jan 2003
                                                                • 28682

                                                                #381
                                                                has pib cash made any response to any of the threads yet?

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                                                                • Cash
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                                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                                  • 20825

                                                                  #382
                                                                  That screenshot looks like an inside stats software, how can anyone outside the company come to it? Or was it delivered to an outsider by an inside source? Just wondering ...
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                                                                  • SomeCreep
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                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                    • 26118

                                                                    #383
                                                                    Originally posted by Cash
                                                                    That screenshot looks like an inside stats software, how can anyone outside the company come to it? Or was it delivered to an outsider by an inside source? Just wondering ...
                                                                    PIBCash says a former employee copied/saved their html, altered it at home, and created that screen shot.

                                                                    (What else could they say?)

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                                                                    • Dildozer
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                                                                      • Jul 2002
                                                                      • 7519

                                                                      #384
                                                                      Originally posted by SomeCreep


                                                                      yeah weird, this thread got really old, really fast
                                                                      hard to believe there was more threads about ADS taking over GFY than PIBcash defrauding a bunch of webmasters

                                                                      probably shows how much of GFYers are in fact porn surfers not webmasters
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                                                                      • StuartD
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                                                                        • Jul 2002
                                                                        • 29903

                                                                        #385
                                                                        Originally posted by MetaMan
                                                                        has pib cash made any response to any of the threads yet?
                                                                        They made a response in this very thread, one or two pages back...

                                                                        also one on their own board but then deleted it for some reason.
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                                                                        • Why
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                                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                                          • 7230

                                                                          #386
                                                                          now i havent taken too much time here to look at the math on the screenshot but here are a few thoughts that ran through my pea sized brain...

                                                                          couldnt some of those joins be cross sells, and exit sales? i mean if they werent paying thier webmasters on those sales, they still might want to keep track of them for fraud prevention and to gauge certain affiliates quality of traffic. i mean if an affiliate sent 12 sales and there were none from the exits, that might be a red flag or something? not saying this is the case, just some ideas that *might* justify this.

                                                                          and i think hit shaving is pretty much standard practice. it makes conversions look better. not saying its OK by any means, but look at all the pea brains in this biz, all they care is about is high payouts and low conversions, too stupid to see things as they are. some dont consider it hit shaving though, they do it cretively by doing shit like only counting unique hits to the second tour page and crap like that.

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                                                                          • hornycash
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                                                                            • Jun 2002
                                                                            • 2336

                                                                            #387

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                                                                            • Cash
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                                                                              • Feb 2002
                                                                              • 20825

                                                                              #388
                                                                              Originally posted by SomeCreep


                                                                              PIBCash says a former employee copied/saved their html, altered it at home, and created that screen shot.

                                                                              (What else could they say?)
                                                                              I understand this, but supposing that is not true (what they say), which is anyway the opinion of most GFY'ers here, how could such a screenshot be taken? Only by a (former) employee?
                                                                              This way, any company that shaves knows that the few employees knowing this can blackmail them anytime later.
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                                                                              • Mushayef
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                                                                                • May 2003
                                                                                • 118

                                                                                #389
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                                                                                • johnbosh
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                                                                                  • Aug 2002
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                                                                                  #390

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                                                                                  • stocktrader23
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                                                                                    • Jan 2003
                                                                                    • 18781

                                                                                    #391
                                                                                    Originally posted by Why
                                                                                    now i havent taken too much time here to look at the math on the screenshot but here are a few thoughts that ran through my pea sized brain...

                                                                                    couldnt some of those joins be cross sells, and exit sales? i mean if they werent paying thier webmasters on those sales, they still might want to keep track of them for fraud prevention and to gauge certain affiliates quality of traffic. i mean if an affiliate sent 12 sales and there were none from the exits, that might be a red flag or something? not saying this is the case, just some ideas that *might* justify this.

                                                                                    and i think hit shaving is pretty much standard practice. it makes conversions look better. not saying its OK by any means, but look at all the pea brains in this biz, all they care is about is high payouts and low conversions, too stupid to see things as they are. some dont consider it hit shaving though, they do it cretively by doing shit like only counting unique hits to the second tour page and crap like that.
                                                                                    If those were cross sales or anything remotely legit they wouldn't be on here making excuses and blaming ex employees.


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                                                                                    • monro
                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                                                      • 787

                                                                                      #392
                                                                                      The shaving will end up in a disaster for all of us. When Visa/MasterCard do find out ( and they will! ) that their cards are used for theft on the net, it will be the end for all affiliate programs. It IS a federal and international crime. Just wait for the headlines!

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                                                                                      • klik
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                                                                                        • Nov 2001
                                                                                        • 5092

                                                                                        #393
                                                                                        8 pages and i'm on my 6th bag of popcorn..

                                                                                        try to beat that ratio!

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                                                                                        • Dragonsxxx
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                                                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                                                          • 519

                                                                                          #394
                                                                                          I didn't go through all pages but Killah posted this on AWI


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                                                                                          • SomeCreep
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                                                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                                                            • 26118

                                                                                            #395
                                                                                            Someone tell "Killah" to post those pics in this thread

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                                                                                            • Ross
                                                                                              Ik ben een aap
                                                                                              • Sep 2002
                                                                                              • 18874

                                                                                              #396
                                                                                              I'm a bit late in getting into this one but holy fuck!!!!

                                                                                              I know there are a ton more sponsors out there that no on would think of as shaving so much.... I wish I had proof.

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                                                                                              • SomeCreep
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                                                                                                • Mar 2003
                                                                                                • 26118

                                                                                                #397
                                                                                                Originally posted by Ross
                                                                                                I'm a bit late in getting into this one but holy fuck!!!!

                                                                                                I know there are a ton more sponsors out there that no on would think of as shaving so much.... I wish I had proof.
                                                                                                yep, probably. Theres never really "proof", even with the screen shot, people and PIBCash say its faked.

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                                                                                                • SomeCreep
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                                                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                                                  • 26118

                                                                                                  #398
                                                                                                  400 webmasters pulling their PIBCash links

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                                                                                                  • BVF
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                                                                                                    • Jan 2002
                                                                                                    • 13975

                                                                                                    #399
                                                                                                    When people in the industry are sitting around shooting the shit with each other, it is blatatently acknowledged that shaving is a fact of life with a lot of sponsors.

                                                                                                    Why are y'all so surprised?

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                                                                                                    • {fusion}
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                                                                                                      • Sep 2003
                                                                                                      • 1650

                                                                                                      #400
                                                                                                      the top affilitate gets 5k with shaving , but if he was with a revshare program that wasnt shaving he would still only make probably half that?

                                                                                                      if you can push heavy traffic and signups like that its worth doing your own programs anyway

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