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  • Sly_RJ
    Live Hard - Die Hard
    • Feb 2002
    • 17042
    #301
    Originally posted by Peaches

    I don't think even that would prove anything. They can "make" stats look any way they want - sixpack actually showed that himself.
    I know that. Just calling his bluff. You really think I would trust this guy? He did something a couple months back (don't remember exactly what) that made me add him to my "shady character" list. Very rarely do people come off that list...
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      • Kick Ass Chat
        Confirmed User
        • Dec 2002
        • 2057
        #302
        Originally posted by jimmy3way


        "Hello lawyer? Yeah.....I was stealing from a ton of people on a large scale by running this crooked business and this guy outed me...can I sue? Hello? Hello? Is anyone there?"

        This has nothing to do with former empoyees, or bullshit html.

        Some asshole got caught with his dick in the apple pie and this is the best excuse he has? Bogus html?
        Well said He's doing all he can to dispute the situation, but it's just bull crap.....Like you just said "Some asshole got caught with his dick in the apple pie and this is the best excuse he has"
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          • Carrie
            Confirmed User
            • Apr 2002
            • 3162
            #303
            Originally posted by Honeyslut


            Yes, I have reoccurrring set and it is set reoccuring for life. That does not mean that EVERYONE cheats nor do they have a personal script for shaving .


            the guy was saying that everyone that has an affiliate has their own script to cheat and that is a lie. He is saying that EVERYONE shaves.

            I make 98 percent of my sales by myself and I don't relay on my affiliates. For someone to say everyone shaves when a large majority of the smaller affiliates don't is bull.
            Whether or not you shave isn't the point hon, you just said you'd never seen a shave option with CCBill. I was pointing out that it's in there (like Prego!).

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              • SpaceAce
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2002
                • 6493
                #304
                Originally posted by jimmy3way


                "Hello lawyer? Yeah.....I was stealing from a ton of people on a large scale by running this crooked business and this guy outed me...can I sue? Hello? Hello? Is anyone there?"

                This has nothing to do with former empoyees, or bullshit html.

                Some asshole got caught with his dick in the apple pie and this is the best excuse he has? Bogus html?
                His dick in the apple pie, haha.

                SpaceAce

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                  • Theo
                    HAL 9000
                    • May 2001
                    • 34515
                    #305
                    Originally posted by Soul_Rebel


                    maybe or maybe not. My guess is that if the accusations are valid, the admin is still like this.
                    also ftp access to see when was the last time the control panel script was uploaded on the server.

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                      • Peaches
                        Old broad
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 13933
                        #306
                        Originally posted by Sly_RJ
                        that made me add him to my "shady character" list. Very rarely do people come off that list...
                        LOL, agreed!

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                          • JSA Matt
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 5464
                            #307
                            Originally posted by Soul_Rebel


                            also ftp access to see when was the last time the control panel script was uploaded on the server.
                            If you care about your business in any way, release the source code promptly. Problem solved.

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                              • Doctor Dre
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Jan 2001
                                • 51692
                                #308
                                Originally posted by AaronM


                                Account 99 happens to post here so perhaps this will happen. On the flip side...If he posts here about it...It still proves nothing. Maybe he only did the 168 and the 333 is fabricated.

                                Like I said before....Only the people with access to the admin area can possibly know for 100% sure.
                                If the killer isn't on tape killing the person then he's free ... That's what you are saying.

                                So that would be a coincidence ? My ass lol
                                Originally posted by rayadp05
                                I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                  • baddog
                                    So Fucking Banned
                                    • Apr 2001
                                    • 107089
                                    #309
                                    Originally posted by DTK


                                    seems a bit unlikely given the links posted and posts pulled over on PIB
                                    I did not see a sarcasm smiley

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                                      • Doctor Dre
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Jan 2001
                                        • 51692
                                        #310
                                        Originally posted by sixpack
                                        We normally would not LOWER ourselves to respond to a thread such as this, but, we feel that some webmasters may feel that there personal info has been compromised by outside forces. This is NOT the case. Our site was never "hacked" This is the work of a former employee who shall remain nameless. The former employee had taken it upon themselves to copy the html code from the admin area before their dismissal. This made it very easy to add columns to the page and make it appear that there maybe something shitty going on with our reporting. I assure any and all of you that there are no such columns in there. I have let a few trusted webmasters in our admin area and they too have seen nothing of the sorts. We have contacted our lawyers in regards to this matter.



                                        Originally posted by rayadp05
                                        I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                          • Mike AI
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jan 2001
                                            • 3624
                                            #311
                                            The truth is someone stold the Matrix webmaster list, then sold it to Acacia, and Acacia's lawyers hacked into the PIBcash servers, downloaded the HTML and decided to change it up to make it look like they were shaving to discredit a fine company.



                                            Yeah that's the ticket!


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                                              • HS-Trixxxia
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Mar 2002
                                                • 2946
                                                #312
                                                Actually, his post says some trusted webmasters have gone in to check that it's fake. Anyone of you 'trusted' webmasters care to CONFIRM that he is honest? Any of you can confirm the date & time that you were given the opportunity to do this? Any proof that the programmer didn't do something JUST before you were given access?

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                                                  • Theo
                                                    HAL 9000
                                                    • May 2001
                                                    • 34515
                                                    #313

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                                                      • Doctor Dre
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                        • 51692
                                                        #314
                                                        Originally posted by Mike AI
                                                        The truth is someone stold the Matrix webmaster list, then sold it to Acacia, and Acacia's lawyers hacked into the PIBcash servers, downloaded the HTML and decided to change it up to make it look like they were shaving to discredit a fine company.



                                                        Yeah that's the ticket!
                                                        yea most likely
                                                        Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                        I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                          • nofx
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Nov 2002
                                                            • 16826
                                                            #315
                                                            pib got owned

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                                                              • Peaches
                                                                Old broad
                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                • 13933
                                                                #316
                                                                Originally posted by Mike AI
                                                                The truth is someone stold the Matrix webmaster list, then sold it to Acacia, and Acacia's lawyers hacked into the PIBcash servers, downloaded the HTML and decided to change it up to make it look like they were shaving to discredit a fine company.



                                                                Yeah that's the ticket!

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                                                                  • CDSmith
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • May 2001
                                                                    • 51460
                                                                    #317
                                                                    Originally posted by Mike AI
                                                                    The truth is someone stold the Matrix webmaster list, then sold it to Acacia, and Acacia's lawyers hacked into the PIBcash servers, downloaded the HTML and decided to change it up to make it look like they were shaving to discredit a fine company.



                                                                    Yeah that's the ticket!
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                                                                      • 4Pics
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Dec 2001
                                                                        • 7952
                                                                        #318
                                                                        damn i missed a good thread...

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                                                                          • Headless
                                                                            Registered User
                                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                                            • 26727
                                                                            #319
                                                                            Originally posted by 4Pics
                                                                            damn i missed a good thread...
                                                                            I have a sig spot on page 1 that might be of interest to you... ;)

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                                                                              • JSA Matt
                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                • Aug 2003
                                                                                • 5464
                                                                                #320
                                                                                Originally posted by Headless


                                                                                I have a sig spot on page 1 that might be of interest to you... ;)
                                                                                You are on page 2 for me

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                                                                                  • Headless
                                                                                    Registered User
                                                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                                                    • 26727
                                                                                    #321
                                                                                    Originally posted by JSA Matt


                                                                                    You are on page 2 for me
                                                                                    The lies!!!!

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                                                                                      • arg
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Feb 2003
                                                                                        • 1164
                                                                                        #322
                                                                                        I have let a few trusted webmasters in our admin area and they too have seen nothing of the sorts.
                                                                                        It would be as easy to modify your admin stats display script as it was for an alleged ex employee to modify the html. I'm not saying the GIF was proof of shaving, but your letting trusted webmasters see your admin area after the fact is similarly not proof of honesty.

                                                                                        If you're really innocent, I'd go into overdrive right now to try and prove it. Time is of the essence.

                                                                                        As has been suggested, you could post your admin code really, really soon, before it can easily be "cleaned up." Yes, someone might take it and use it for their own sponsor program. The alternative is that a lot of people are going to stop using pibcash.

                                                                                        Or give a couple trusted, very high-profile webmasters shell access to your server to poke around, with the aid of one of their programmers if they don't have the expertise themselves. I don't know who you could get, but if say Lensman did this and gave you a clean bill of health in a couple hours, the damage to your business could be very minimal, and in fact you might come out ahead after the publicity.

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                                                                                          • iwantchixx
                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                                                            • 12860
                                                                                            #323
                                                                                            Originally posted by tranza
                                                                                            What I really like to hear, to confirm if this pic is true or not is someone saying something like this: "My account ID is 99 and it really showed only 168 sign ups on this period range! PIBCash, you motherfuckers cockroachs, pay up what you owe me or I'll sue your asses!"

                                                                                            That's what I'd like to hear, from any of those account numbers to see if this pic is true or not....

                                                                                            If this pic is true, PIBCash is pretty much dead... But if there is no REAL proof (who doesn't have Photoshop skills here?) the person that came up with this pic should also be shot on site....

                                                                                            cant even do that now... the fuckers turned off previews months stats all of a suden, all they have is current and last month,s and let me tell you, last month's is full of very fuckign weird numbers... i had a feeling somethign weird was going on

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                                                                                              • Dirty F
                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                • Jul 2001
                                                                                                • 59204
                                                                                                #324
                                                                                                Originally posted by iwantchixx



                                                                                                cant even do that now... the fuckers turned off previews months stats all of a suden, all they have is current and last month,s and let me tell you, last month's is full of very fuckign weird numbers... i had a feeling somethign weird was going on
                                                                                                They did that just now??

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                                                                                                  • Joe Citizen
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Oct 2003
                                                                                                    • 4552
                                                                                                    #325
                                                                                                    Removing all PIBcash links.

                                                                                                    Fuck these thieves.

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                                                                                                      • XxXotic
                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                        • Jun 2002
                                                                                                        • 8500
                                                                                                        #326



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                                                                                                          • Mike AI
                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                                                                            • 3624
                                                                                                            #327
                                                                                                            Originally posted by iwantchixx



                                                                                                            cant even do that now... the fuckers turned off previews months stats all of a suden, all they have is current and last month,s and let me tell you, last month's is full of very fuckign weird numbers... i had a feeling somethign weird was going on
                                                                                                            I noticed the same thing. They have disabled many of the reports in their stats.

                                                                                                            This is enough for me to pull my links.


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                                                                                                              • - Jesus Christ -
                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                • 7197
                                                                                                                #328
                                                                                                                Is it over... Can I go to sleep yet?

                                                                                                                Amen

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                                                                                                                  • Dirty F
                                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                    • 59204
                                                                                                                    #329
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Mike AI


                                                                                                                    I noticed the same thing. They have disabled many of the reports in their stats.
                                                                                                                    If thats the case then something is going on for sure...

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                                                                                                                      • HS-Trixxxia
                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                        • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                        • 2946
                                                                                                                        #330
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Trixxxia
                                                                                                                        Actually, his post says some trusted webmasters have gone in to check that it's fake. Anyone of you 'trusted' webmasters care to CONFIRM that he is honest? Any of you can confirm the date & time that you were given the opportunity to do this? Any proof that the programmer didn't do something JUST before you were given access?
                                                                                                                        Fuck......I'm reduced to quoting myself now :-))
                                                                                                                        Are you 'Trusted Webmasters' willing to put your reputations on the line?


                                                                                                                        Oh and on another note:
                                                                                                                        quote:
                                                                                                                        --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Mike AI


                                                                                                                        I noticed the same thing. They have disabled many of the reports in their stats.


                                                                                                                        --------------------------------------------------------------------------------



                                                                                                                        Battus: If thats the case then something is going on for sure...





                                                                                                                        Battuss.....did you for a split second think something wasn't going on?

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                                                                                                                          • Mike AI
                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                            • 3624
                                                                                                                            #331
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -
                                                                                                                            Is it over... Can I go to sleep yet?
                                                                                                                            Yeah, but please get up in 3 days....


                                                                                                                            Make big money on your Domains! Why wait 40 days to get paid with the other guys? Parked.com pays the most for your traffic, and cuts checks twice a month!

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                                                                                                                              • iwantchixx
                                                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                • 12860
                                                                                                                                #332
                                                                                                                                [i]Originally posted by sixpack
                                                                                                                                We normally would not LOWER ourselves to respond to a thread such as this, but, we feel that some webmasters may feel that there personal info has been compromised by outside forces. This is NOT the case. Our site was never "hacked" This is the work of a former employee who shall remain nameless. The former employee had taken it upon themselves to copy the html code from the admin area before their dismissal. This made it very easy to add columns to the page and make it appear that there maybe something shitty going on with our reporting. I assure any and all of you that there are no such columns in there. I have let a few trusted webmasters in our admin area and they too have seen nothing of the sorts. We have contacted our lawyers in regards to this matter.
                                                                                                                                [/B]

                                                                                                                                yadayadayada, funny how the only way to prove this "ex employee's innocence" was for me to go through all my stats and show that numbers just don't add up then all of a sudden I am unable to further than 1 month in stats? Give me a break. Nice cover up. You people owe me $420 + all sales shaved from when I first joined the system until june and from september until now. I want access to the stats immediately to see for myself or I will have a lawyer contact you and your boss for payment. WHat your company has done is FRAUD. Bottom line.


                                                                                                                                Also I wish to talk with Rconn himself. I am an honnest webmaster who sends your company hard earned HONNEST hits. Show me the admin. Now. Unless you have something to hide. I also want ALL traffic and sales logs. I want it NOW. Not tomorow or next week when you have had a chance to pretty things up for my visit to teh admin area. Acusing the ex employee is a VERY unethical and slanderous thing to do. If you think I am just a webmaster pissing in teh wind ... think again fuckface. I won;t give up until I get that 420 + what else is owed to me and alll numbers add up after the money has been sent. I trusted your company, I defended your company when it came to shaving. Not anymore. Until this mess is cleared up and I am properly compensated I will no longer allow webmasters to list sites promoting pibcash on any of my sites. Nor will I be using your program for an upcomming SE project projecting 10's of thousands of hits a day to your sites.


                                                                                                                                I put my reputation on the line when I reccomended your program to a collegue. Now my name is mud.

                                                                                                                                P A Y U P!!!

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                                                                                                                                  • Carrie
                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                    • Apr 2002
                                                                                                                                    • 3162
                                                                                                                                    #333
                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by arg
                                                                                                                                    but if say Lensman did this and gave you a clean bill of health in a couple hours, the damage to your business could be very minimal, and in fact you might come out ahead after the publicity.
                                                                                                                                    You are saying that Lensman is trusted across the industry as a stand-up, completely honest guy?
                                                                                                                                    I dare say there are folks who would disagree with you on this, especially since I've seen PIBCash banners here at GFY. Conflict of interest.

                                                                                                                                    If MikeAI went in there and told me everything was on the level I'd trust it, but there aren't many other "high profile" people that I'd believe. I could probably count them on one hand.

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                                                                                                                                      • bhutocracy
                                                                                                                                        Not making A Comeback
                                                                                                                                        • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                        • 10218
                                                                                                                                        #334
                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by gin
                                                                                                                                        not in this case.. they shaved those just as much as per sign up joins
                                                                                                                                        no they didn't, they only took one off each.

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                                                                                                                                          • broke
                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                            • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                            • 4501
                                                                                                                                            #335
                                                                                                                                            Blah, blah, blah...

                                                                                                                                            At the end of the day what is going to happen? Webmasters are going to pull some links.

                                                                                                                                            Big fucking deal.

                                                                                                                                            I'll bet a dollar to a dime that no lawsuit is filed and they close up shop and lauch a new program within three weeks.

                                                                                                                                            The lot of you dopes will sign up and send then the same traffic.

                                                                                                                                            Complain and do nothing... and wonder why this shit happens over and over again.



                                                                                                                                            Continue the drama though.
                                                                                                                                            Perfect Gonzo

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                                                                                                                                              • HS-Trixxxia
                                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                                                • 2946
                                                                                                                                                #336
                                                                                                                                                Can someone post the link codes to their sites without your affiliate number please?

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                                                                                                                                                  • Dirty F
                                                                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                    • 59204
                                                                                                                                                    #337
                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by broke
                                                                                                                                                    Blah, blah, blah...

                                                                                                                                                    At the end of the day what is going to happen? Webmasters are going to pull some links.

                                                                                                                                                    Big fucking deal.

                                                                                                                                                    I'll bet a dollar to a dime that no lawsuit is filed and they close up shop and lauch a new program within three weeks.

                                                                                                                                                    The lot of you dopes will sign up and send then the same traffic.

                                                                                                                                                    Complain and do nothing... and wonder why this shit happens over and over again.



                                                                                                                                                    Continue the drama though.
                                                                                                                                                    Just like Matrix...people are buying from them like nothing happened.
                                                                                                                                                    I even seen people posting links to them here on gfy in content threads.

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                                                                                                                                                      • iwantchixx
                                                                                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                        • 12860
                                                                                                                                                        #338


                                                                                                                                                        Tell me I'm not the only one who finds this shit fishy when the months and months before I had steady 100-150 hits a day then all of a suden this shit, then sales pop up out of nowhere, then the next month, things are back to normal and then after this thread previous month stats are not do-able... akso, all my referer tracking in the stats are GONE.. ERASED last month// one day I was able to track what url's sales were from, then next, months of sales referal urls disapeared

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                                                                                                                                                          • HS-Trixxxia
                                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                            • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                                                            • 2946
                                                                                                                                                            #339
                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Battuss


                                                                                                                                                            Just like Matrix...people are buying from them like nothing happened.
                                                                                                                                                            I even seen people posting links to them here on gfy in content threads.

                                                                                                                                                            Battuss......that works for people with short memories - in the past I spent little money on content - in the last weeks I spent a shitload on content and it wasn't at Matrix despite their love letters on sweet deals they make or points we can use to spend money there. I don't bite the hand that feeds me so I expect the same in return.

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                                                                                                                                                              • crockett
                                                                                                                                                                in a van by the river
                                                                                                                                                                • May 2003
                                                                                                                                                                • 76818
                                                                                                                                                                #340
                                                                                                                                                                the thing I'm thinking is PIB could have shown the exact same screen shots with out the shaving options built in .. if infact they arn't there... I mean they have the dates from the 1st SS shown here, so why couldn't they have taken the exact same SS from their records of the same date, to prove the HTML was changed...

                                                                                                                                                                Insted they throw up some bogas stats with a bunch of XXXs in it.. whoop dee doos ofcouse anyone can change the stats.. But why didn't they put up the exact same stats to prove their case?

                                                                                                                                                                and now people report the affilates stats in the log in area are messed up, I'd say something is up...
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                                                                                                                                                                  • WiredGuy
                                                                                                                                                                    Pounding Googlebot
                                                                                                                                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                                    • 34515
                                                                                                                                                                    #341
                                                                                                                                                                    Took balls to post something like this to say the least, let's see what the company has to say about it. In my opinion, if they really want to clear their name, they would ask their processor to post their stats publicly. I doubt it will happen, but let's just say that's one more program to avoid...

                                                                                                                                                                    WG
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Dirty F
                                                                                                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                                        • 59204
                                                                                                                                                                        #342
                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Trixxxia



                                                                                                                                                                        Battuss......that works for people with short memories - in the past I spent little money on content - in the last weeks I spent a shitload on content and it wasn't at Matrix despite their love letters on sweet deals they make or points we can use to spend money there. I don't bite the hand that feeds me so I expect the same in return.
                                                                                                                                                                        Yup...

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                                                                                                                                                                          • HomeO
                                                                                                                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                            • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                                            • 213
                                                                                                                                                                            #343
                                                                                                                                                                            Does this thread turn anyone else on?

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                                                                                                                                                                              • jennym
                                                                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                • May 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                • 1622
                                                                                                                                                                                #344
                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by iwantchixx


                                                                                                                                                                                Tell me I'm not the only one who finds this shit fishy when the months and months before I had steady 100-150 hits a day then all of a suden this shit, then sales pop up out of nowhere, then the next month, things are back to normal and then after this thread previous month stats are not do-able... akso, all my referer tracking in the stats are GONE.. ERASED last month// one day I was able to track what url's sales were from, then next, months of sales referal urls disapeared

                                                                                                                                                                                Sales on the days with no traffic, and no sales on the days with traffic.

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                                                                                                                                                                                  • JSA Matt
                                                                                                                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                    • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                    • 5464
                                                                                                                                                                                    #345
                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                                                                                                                                    Took balls to post something like this to say the least, let's see what the company has to say about it. In my opinion, if they really want to clear their name, they would ask their processor to post their stats publicly. I doubt it will happen, but let's just say that's one more program to avoid...

                                                                                                                                                                                    WG
                                                                                                                                                                                    They have already made a statement.. it was a disgruntled employee

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Why
                                                                                                                                                                                        MFBA
                                                                                                                                                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                        • 7230
                                                                                                                                                                                        #346
                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                                                                                                                                        anyone who makes it a HUGE point to tell you they DON'T shave usually does.....................
                                                                                                                                                                                        A-FUCKING-MEN!

                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by kush2


                                                                                                                                                                                        No way in hell an "average signup" brings in $50+
                                                                                                                                                                                        you sir are a moron who should not talk about things you dont know about.

                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by iceicebaby



                                                                                                                                                                                        Your response is so stupid I can't believe Im responding to it. Fuck I wasn't going to until someone else posted they liked your stupid idea.

                                                                                                                                                                                        Some sponsors already send out emails confirming a sale. The problem with this is if you can build a shave into the affiliate program, a skim into a tgp script, etc.... you can build it into a script that would notify a person of a sale via email or icq.

                                                                                                                                                                                        As you probably know most of the affiliate programs send joins to the other affiliate programs in larger numbers than the majority of the common webmasters. Do you really think that an affiliate program that is sending 5, 10, 20+ joins a day to a bunch of other affiliate programs want an email every time there is a new join?

                                                                                                                                                                                        The only people that would test an affiliate by getting a "friend" to join as a test is a person that is checking thier stats every 5 minutes hoping that they meet the minimum payout for a given pay period. When they should be concentrating on increasing their traffic and what they can do to maximize the traffic they have into sales.
                                                                                                                                                                                        yes i wouldnt mind knowing about each and EVERY fucking sign up i send to someone, i can filter them off to a differant folder and just look at how many new emails i have from that sponsor.

                                                                                                                                                                                        on the second one, you are above and beyond retarded. i dont checks stats every 5 minutes but i would allow a friend to send a test sign up, it has nothing to do with large or small affiliates, it has to do with the same thing this whole fucking thread is about. TRUST!
                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by tranza


                                                                                                                                                                                        This cannot be done... The CB ratio would fuck this idea up....
                                                                                                                                                                                        false again. as your friend cancal soon after, of you could tell the sponsor afterwards and let them refund it back, i mean after all they are doing it for a point, its to prove something to thier webmasters.

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                                                                                                                                                                                          • arg
                                                                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                            • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                            • 1164
                                                                                                                                                                                            #347
                                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Carrie

                                                                                                                                                                                            You are saying that Lensman is trusted across the industry as a stand-up, completely honest guy?
                                                                                                                                                                                            I dare say there are folks who would disagree with you on this, especially since I've seen PIBCash banners here at GFY. Conflict of interest.

                                                                                                                                                                                            If MikeAI went in there and told me everything was on the level I'd trust it, but there aren't many other "high profile" people that I'd believe. I could probably count them on one hand.
                                                                                                                                                                                            I don't know Lens personally, or know that much about him.
                                                                                                                                                                                            Anyone you could pick would be controversial, but get 2 or 3 to do it and it would add serious weight. They don't have to be perfectly honest people, just be the kind of people who would say so if they found wrongdoing.

                                                                                                                                                                                            Though if Pibcash is really in the process of modifying their stats reporting, as people are saying, then I think they've passed the point of being a lost cause.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Dirty F
                                                                                                                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                                • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                                • 59204
                                                                                                                                                                                                #348
                                                                                                                                                                                                3 fiddy

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • WiredGuy
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Pounding Googlebot
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • 34515
                                                                                                                                                                                                    #349
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by JSA Matt
                                                                                                                                                                                                    They have already made a statement.. it was a disgruntled employee
                                                                                                                                                                                                    I still think their reputation is gone out the window because of this. If they want to really clear their name, posting processor level stats will do it. Just my opinion, I won't feel comfortable working with them unless they can prove no shaving at this point...

                                                                                                                                                                                                    WG
                                                                                                                                                                                                    I play with Google.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • StuartD
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Sofa King Band
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • 29903
                                                                                                                                                                                                        #350
                                                                                                                                                                                                        RConn had posted on his board his response with the same screen cap as here...

                                                                                                                                                                                                        but even that thread has been deleted.
                                                                                                                                                                                                        This is me on facebook
                                                                                                                                                                                                        This is me on twitter

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