So.. PIBCash Shaves.. Sucks to be you!
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you sound like you know what needs to be doneOriginally posted by Trixxxia
Ok Hooper - cuz for me if I'm sending you the surfer, most likely someone I've paid for, is on your site and he uses option 2 instead of 1, I think I should get paid for yes, for me it's shaving. If you want a partner program to help your sites grow, you are basically asking for a 'PARTNER' in your business you respect him for tagging along and bringing you business whether they buy while he's looking or while he turns around - whether he's paying cash or credit card. A partner is a partner - I am using my time and money to bring people to your storefront and you decide that depending how he buys will determine if I get my cut?
I guess I have a very different ethic than most programs. Seems like it's definitely time for me to start my own site. If it fails it's my own fault. No use in putting time and money promoting other people if they'll decide when to pay - razorblades or payment options should not be the deciding factor.
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Big Sausage = Big $$$$Originally posted by iceicebaby
HAHAHA nice one...wonder how that site is converting for ap?
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your just not a very good photochopperOriginally posted by Wizzo
But what are "ass licks" because no one could photoshop a screenshot...
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if sponsors really wanted to prove they are not shaving they would supply real time notifications on sales.
It is simple. Send an Email + ICQ immediately on each sale, right when it happens including some info about the sale. That way, the affiliates can test it once in a while with friends, asking them to sign up and seeing if the sale registers.
But why would they when they can continue what they do today (basically nothing) and keep on shaving your sorry asses
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Hey guys
You know whats really funny, is most of you are already being shaved by lots of medium / big sponsors and you don't know it.
Look at Pibcash's profits after they have shaved 30%, they make a loss. Rebills after the 30% shave will make them money but you take that 30% shave away and then count in the 10-13% processing fees they have to pay and you can see that they would make MASSIVE LOSSES. This is of course why they shave and you'd be an IDIOT to think that most per signup programs don't do exactly the same. Except they haven't had there admin program hacked & exposed in public.
Pay $35 per trial that converts at 30% to full + crosssell + exit consoles and all the rest is still VERY VERY hard to pull off without shaving.
And you wonder why recurring programs seem to magicily convert twice as good as per signup programs
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well if anyone of those id's come forward then what is your excuse?Originally posted by Wizzo
That was done in like 2 minutes to make a point!Comment
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i disagree with you on many points.Originally posted by Driven
Hey guys
You know whats really funny, is most of you are already being shaved by lots of medium / big sponsors and you don't know it.
Look at Pibcash's profits after they have shaved 30%, they make a loss. Rebills after the 30% shave will make them money but you take that 30% shave away and then count in the 10-13% processing fees they have to pay and you can see that they would make MASSIVE LOSSES. This is of course why they shave and you'd be an IDIOT to think that most per signup programs don't do exactly the same. Except they haven't had there admin program hacked & exposed in public.
Pay $35 per trial that converts at 30% to full + crosssell + exit consoles and all the rest is still VERY VERY hard to pull off without shaving.
And you wonder why recurring programs seem to magicily convert twice as good as per signup programs
if an average signup doesnt bring in $50+ , there is something wrong with the sites. not including the crossels,upsells, and come-back sales.
$35 is not gonna bring anyone to loss unless u have really shitty sites.
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Thats Bull Shit if your saying Jimmys proof is "manufactured" ??Originally posted by AaronM
Why should I worry? I developed a site idea, shot the content for it, and partnered up with PIBCash to promote it.
I am not about to let a thread like this concern me. At this point, I have not seen any proof posted here that could not have been manufactured. Why should I panic and take a chance on making fucked up decisions or accusations based on this?
I'm on vacation anyway.......No worries here.
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I don't know if it's a rico violation or a criminal act or breech of contract, What I do know this, the wrong person will get shaved and it will be more than any law suit. Some people call it stealing, and just fucking hate it when people steal from them. This shit keeps happening and you'll be reading about it in the papers and seeing it on Fox news, mark my words. People doing this are leading a very very dangeriuos life.Originally posted by Hooper
I in no way support PIB, in fact i think shaving like this is deplorable and just plain wrong.
But.. I have a couple questions.
1) Who hacked their webmaster admin? Isnt that a computer crime?
2) Shaving would not likely be a rico violation or a criminal act of any kind. It would more than likely be breech of contract.
Now, that said.. if it's true that pibcash shaved...
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Im jim dandy happy with $25 PPS..... or even $20 PPS.... they convert WAY beter becasue you know the people running them arent crazy hype masters.
I'm doing under 1:27 with most of my $25 PPS or less affiliate programs.
Next time you see "Up to $45 per free trial" Thats a clue that you aint gonna have as much hair on your nuts as when you went in.
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I think he was saying that it's a possibility, not that it actually is manufactured. There's no way that anyone can prove that it's absolutely the real genuine thing... well, no one in this thread anyway thus far. Someone from the company would have to say that it's true.Originally posted by GirlsFreePics
Thats Bull Shit if your saying Jimmys proof is "manufactured" ??Comment
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Jimmy did not hack the system and grab a screen cap. That was given to him. I am not saying Jimmy manufactured a damn thing. What I am saying is that only the people who have access to the PIBCash admin areas can know for 100% sure.Originally posted by GirlsFreePics
Thats Bull Shit if your saying Jimmys proof is "manufactured" ??
At this point you can not say it is real anymore than I can personally vouch for it being a fake.Comment
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I think if it were a fake PIB woulda been in here a long time ago defending themselves. Right now they are prolly wondering how fast they can withdraw the cash and get to South America .
Then again I could be wrong .The Craze
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Originally posted by Lane
all current programmers of sponsors who shave should take screenshots and save them.
looks like a nice way to make some pocket money, and a priceless revenge if you get fired.
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Indeed. How can they still be making a loss on some affiliates even after shaving them. Hilarious. These people shouldn't even be in business. It's sad and funny at the same time.Originally posted by 12clicks
I thought the most interesting thing about it was just how much money the program was making AFTER the shave.
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tam is one of the most honest people i know, and i know being part of her new program that everything is 150% honest and all up to par. you gotta remember she isnt part of them and fingers should be pointed to the owner..Comment
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Click around and look closely - it's there.Originally posted by Honeyslut
bullshit.
I use ccbill and I have never seen a fucking shave script nor would I use it .
You can determine how many months to pay the affiliate for; even if the member stays 10 months you can only pay the affiliate for 4 or whatever - when he really deserves all 10.Comment
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Originally posted by MaskedMan
acadia? Isn't that a university?
Yeah, Use to be called Beaver College
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OK you made a good point, I'll give you that, but can you answer this question with either a simple Yes, or No.....Did YOU have access to the PIB admin areas?? No bull shit, a simple YES or NO ???Originally posted by AaronM
Jimmy did not hack the system and grab a screen cap. That was given to him. I am not saying Jimmy manufactured a damn thing. What I am saying is that only the people who have access to the PIBCash admin areas can know for 100% sure.
At this point you can not say it is real anymore than I can personally vouch for it being a fake.Comment
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i've got one sponsors that does this now, email with what site jioned. who joined and some other stuff, I relly like itOriginally posted by XXXManager
if sponsors really wanted to prove they are not shaving they would supply real time notifications on sales.
It is simple. Send an Email + ICQ immediately on each sale, right when it happens including some info about the sale. That way, the affiliates can test it once in a while with friends, asking them to sign up and seeing if the sale registers.
But why would they when they can continue what they do today (basically nothing) and keep on shaving your sorry asses
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anyone who makes it a HUGE point to tell you they DON'T shave usually does.....................This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!
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i would agree with thisOriginally posted by GirlsFreePics
Thats Bull Shit if your saying Jimmys proof is "manufactured" ??Epic CashEpic Cash works for me
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No way in hell an "average signup" brings in $50+Originally posted by Lane
i disagree with you on many points.
if an average signup doesnt bring in $50+ , there is something wrong with the sites. not including the crossels,upsells, and come-back sales.
$35 is not gonna bring anyone to loss unless u have really shitty sites.SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.Comment
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I shave every day with a Gillette Mach 3 and a can of Edge Gel (for tough beards).... sometimes I cut myself, sometimes I get lucky. Gotta be baby smooth though....
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Originally posted by XXXManager
if sponsors really wanted to prove they are not shaving they would supply real time notifications on sales.
It is simple. Send an Email + ICQ immediately on each sale, right when it happens including some info about the sale. That way, the affiliates can test it once in a while with friends, asking them to sign up and seeing if the sale registers.
But why would they when they can continue what they do today (basically nothing) and keep on shaving your sorry asses
I like that idea...
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What I really like to hear, to confirm if this pic is true or not is someone saying something like this: "My account ID is 99 and it really showed only 168 sign ups on this period range! PIBCash, you motherfuckers cockroachs, pay up what you owe me or I'll sue your asses!"
That's what I'd like to hear, from any of those account numbers to see if this pic is true or not....
If this pic is true, PIBCash is pretty much dead... But if there is no REAL proof (who doesn't have Photoshop skills here?) the person that came up with this pic should also be shot on site....
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Does that mean I'll get instant notification on my 90 joins?Originally posted by PornDollar
I like that idea...
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seems a bit unlikely given the links posted and posts pulled over on PIBOriginally posted by baddog
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Check the thread on this at O*pran*O. There is someone there who has stepped up and said what their ID is - and yes, it's shown on the screenshot.Originally posted by tranza
What I really like to hear, to confirm if this pic is true or not is someone saying something like this: "My account ID is 99 and it really showed only 168 sign ups on this period range! PIBCash, you motherfuckers cockroachs, pay up what you owe me or I'll sue your asses!"
That's what I'd like to hear, from any of those account numbers to see if this pic is true or not....
If this pic is true, PIBCash is pretty much dead... But if there is no REAL proof (who doesn't have Photoshop skills here?) the person that came up with this pic should also be shot on site....
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