That screenshot would go very well in the PIP is having "another Record DAy" thread.
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Everyone's banners say that.Originally posted by stevo
But their banners say "no shaving"!
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Eroswebmaster said:
Right onNow I'm just waiting for the apologists to come in and say the same old tired shit they always do: "What only matters is how much your check is compared to other sponsors."
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Bro, you fucking rock!First thing in the morning i'm having a guy to crawl SEs, gather all pibcash spidered links and let the domain owners know about their practises.Arguing whether the Democratic or Republican party is better is like debating which steaming pile of shit is slightly less stinky.Comment
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Look me in the eye...Originally posted by Rick Latona
Everyone's banners say that.
Does CJ Bucks shave?
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Damn that is fucked up!!!!!
No Thanks, I have my own......
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From their front page...
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Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -
Look me in the eye...
Does CJ Bucks shave?
CShajve Bucks? naaah
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Oh FUCK!
This is gonna hurt.Comment
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dude you missed the point.Originally posted by bhutocracy
um.. it doesn't matter who's lying or how much if one sponsor is paying more per hit than another... thats the whole point. You CAN compare regardless of whether they're both lying or both saints.. numbers don't lie even if sponsors do.
I don't wanna choose between the lesser of 2 evils...I want what is fucking owed to me.
If I went and spent 40 hours in workplace A and they paid me and they paid me only 90% of the agreed upon salary vs workplace B who only paid me 80% of the agreed upon salary....who should I work for?
NEITHER!
Why?
Because it's fucking illegal and they'll both be blasted by government agencies, fined heavily and possibly face criminal charges.
What's the difference here? Nothing.
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http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=206018Originally posted by hornycash
CShajve Bucks? naaah
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Damb rightOriginally posted by eroswebmaster
Fraud is fraud no matter how you cut it.
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I was just about to start pushing tonifreeland haha, i even signed up "per signup" I think the reason so many of these companies shave, is because they know webmasters wont do anything besides pull links.. Then these fucks just start up another program.Comment
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watch it, these guys might sell their webmaster dbase to acadia or something, to double fuck usSomeone finds you...
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PS: Nationalnet is the best host I've ever had. And i tried alot of them.Comment
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I just signed up a day or two ago to push the same site.Originally posted by Pipecrew
I was just about to start pushing tonifreeland haha, i even signed up "per signup" I think the reason so many of these companies shave, is because they know webmasters wont do anything besides pull links.. Then these fucks just start up another program.Comment
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I in no way support PIB, in fact i think shaving like this is deplorable and just plain wrong.
But.. I have a couple questions.
1) Who hacked their webmaster admin? Isnt that a computer crime?
2) Shaving would not likely be a rico violation or a criminal act of any kind. It would more than likely be breech of contract.
Now, that said.. if it's true that pibcash shaved...
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someones shitting thier pants right now.
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acadia? Isn't that a university?Originally posted by chowda
watch it, these guys might sell their webmaster dbase to acadia or something, to double fuck usComment
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Originally posted by Hooper
2) Shaving would not likely be a rico violation or a criminal act of any kind. It would more than likely be breech of contract.
Sorry but you are wrong.
Fraud is a crime. To conspire to commit fraud is a crime.
To conspire means to involve more than 1 person so it fits within the rico definitions.
http://www.ricoact.com/
In the 1980's, however, civil lawyers noticed section 1964(c) of the RICO Act, which allows civil claims to be brought by any person injured in their business or property by reason of a RICO violation. Any person who succeeded in establishing a civil RICO claim would automatically receive judgment in the amount of three times their actual damages and would be awarded their costs and attorneys' fees. The financial windfall available under RICO inspired the creativity of lawyers across the nation, and by the late 1980's, RICO was a (if not the most) commonly asserted claim in federal court. Everyone was trying to depict civil claims, such as common law fraud, product defect, and breach of contract as criminal wrongdoing, which would in turn enable the filing of a civil RICO actionFor rent - ICQ 127-027-910
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Someone needs to call Rodney's cell and ask him what the deal is.Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -
someones shitting thier pants right now.Comment
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I thought the most interesting thing about it was just how much money the program was making AFTER the shave.
how embarrassingI'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.Comment
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No official response yet?Comment
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What if these guys cut and run? I would be a little worried if i had a few g's coming to me...Now Taking Hard Link Trades
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Another one busted... I'm pretty sure just about any sponsor shaves.. Basically every affiliate script has a built-in shave function, and in a highly competitive market, why wouldn't they use it?
This is fucked, we need to expose more shavers.. only then sponsors will get the message and become legit, it's the only wayComment
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Well, they found the screenshot in the other thread...it is gone now.Comment
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didn't really surprise me...ive never been overly impressedOriginally posted by 12clicks
I thought the most interesting thing about it was just how much money the program was making AFTER the shave.
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No secret there. The program sucks. It has always sucked. There is only one site in that program that has ever been worth a shit.Originally posted by 12clicks
I thought the most interesting thing about it was just how much money the program was making AFTER the shave.
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the most embarrasing is that he even shaved the affiliate ID no1 which probably must be some of his friends.....Comment
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someone order a pizza in here?
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I've heard about this for a few days now, and I know a good group of you guys on here knew too, which brings me to the point that they probly found out and had some prep time to take action about this issue. The sad thing is that it looks like there gonna run, plently of time to respond now, deleted posts on there board, and a lot of time for them to think about whats gonna happen when someone got the balls to post the proof.ICQ: 8218548Comment
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so busted damnOriginally posted by AdvertisingSex
From their front page...
<img src="http://www.advertisingsex.com/idex.jpg">
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Originally posted by eroswebmaster
dude you missed the point.
I don't wanna choose between the lesser of 2 evils...I want what is fucking owed to me.
If I went and spent 40 hours in workplace A and they paid me and they paid me only 90% of the agreed upon salary vs workplace B who only paid me 80% of the agreed upon salary....who should I work for?
NEITHER!
Why?
Because it's fucking illegal and they'll both be blasted by government agencies, fined heavily and possibly face criminal charges.
What's the difference here? Nothing.
Fraud is fraud no matter how you cut it.
what you want and reality are to totally seperate issues.
in your workplace analogy is flawed because you actually know the %'s.
How often does evidence like this come out?
once in a frikkin blue moon.
It doesn't matter how utopian we'd like the industry to be. It just isn't honest. Rant and rave all we want nothing is going to change.
So what can you do? NOTHING.
Does it suck? YES.
Whats the best way to get what your traffic is worth and closer to 100%?
TRACK EVERY CLICK YOU SEND OUT TO A SPONSOR, DIVIDE THE CHEQUE BY THE CLICKS AND SHAZZAM HIGHEST WINS.
case closed.
it's like doing a week in fifty of your hypothetical workplaces not knowing what the %'s are, looking back and choosing the one who paid you the highest wage.
does it let you know who's honest? NO. But thats impossible to know regardless.
The point is that for all intents and purposes you never know who is shaving you, and rather than stamping around saying how bad it is that it occurs and how it's fraud, which achieves nothing, you take action to ensure that you are minimising any losses which is about the only thing you have in your power to do.Comment
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Oh yeah they are really patheticOriginally posted by Equinox
They finally banned me. Pathetic fuckers.
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I missed that at first too. I cant believe such a big sponsor would be so crooked. They have so much to lose.Originally posted by gleem
I retract this statement, missed the "joins shown" column.
THAT'S FUCKED UP!
well PIBCash, you fucked up big time.Comment
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Good point, but I don't agree 100%. Exposing them is good and all but I doubt things are going to change much until some of these criminals are sent to jail.Originally posted by Undutchable
This is fucked, we need to expose more shavers.. only then sponsors will get the message and become legit, it's the only wayArguing whether the Democratic or Republican party is better is like debating which steaming pile of shit is slightly less stinky.Comment
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I'm on the phone with the pizza company now. They need to know the access code for the front gate.Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
someone order a pizza in here?
Captain and Coke......
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Glad I never signed up with those lame shavers
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Equinox, the funny thing is that I was double checking in my emails for any pibcash and all and found the domain mentioned on RudeBitch's emails - I think its Tam and I read her threads all the time and find her to be a RudeBitch 'n all :-) but she seems like a nice girl just that she either finds bad luck or the damn thing keeps following her.Originally posted by Equinox
I was just thinking that shit like this seems to follow Tam on her footsteps.
First the dilemma at Varadox, now this shit with PIBCash.
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It will take one company going down hard for this to stop...at least here in the states.Originally posted by bhutocracy
The point is that for all intents and purposes you never know who is shaving you, and rather than stamping around saying how bad it is that it occurs and how it's fraud, which achieves nothing, you take action to ensure that you are minimising any losses which is about the only thing you have in your power to do.
My opinion is this. Once the federal government gets wind of what is going on in this business that will be their next direction to attack in.
If they can't get you on "obscenity," then they'll get you on fraud. The angle of attack will take an organized crime approach, in that there is a "conspiracy" to defraud webmasters.
They couldn't get Capone on anything serious so they did the next best thing, got him for tax evasion.For rent - ICQ 127-027-910
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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
First thing in the morning i'm having a guy to crawl SEs, gather all pibcash spidered links and let the domain owners know about their practises.
Currently selling for me: Paper Street Cash (MomPerv, ShopLyfter, Swappz, Family Strokes)Comment
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Or shes a scumbag.Originally posted by Trixxxia
Equinox, the funny thing is that I was double checking in my emails for any pibcash and all and found the domain mentioned on RudeBitch's emails - I think its Tam and I read her threads all the time and find her to be a RudeBitch 'n all :-) but she seems like a nice girl just that she either finds bad luck or the damn thing keeps following her.
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Scared of being hacked too? Already covering yourself by saying it's not a criminal act?Originally posted by Hooper
I in no way support PIB, in fact i think shaving like this is deplorable and just plain wrong.
But.. I have a couple questions.
1) Who hacked their webmaster admin? Isnt that a computer crime?
2) Shaving would not likely be a rico violation or a criminal act of any kind. It would more than likely be breech of contract.
Now, that said.. if it's true that pibcash shaved...
I'll bet 1000 to 1 that you shave too.
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I think other sponsors should be able to sue pibcash for inflating payouts by using fraud to be able to afford it and stealing potential affiliates.
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