Well NO SHIT I'm doing something wrong. I'd sure like to know what to do right.
Free sites have gotten me a pittance of traffic and zero sales...
TGP galleries do nothing but put me in debt with bandwith bills...
I don't know what 4free sites are...
Everyone I talk to says mailing is treacherous because 99% of lists are bullshit and the chances of getting banned by my IP are huge.
Any other ideas?
WTF did you do for 3 years bro?
4 days of submiting pays for all my hosting bills...
free sites i build 6 months ago still bring me sales
4free site are something like www.join4free.com
for mailing you get a proxy (not sure how that works yet)
WTF did you do for 3 years bro?
4 days of submiting pays for all my hosting bills...
free sites i build 6 months ago still bring me sales
4free site are something like www.join4free.com
for mailing you get a proxy (not sure how that works yet)
How are you paying for all your hosting in 4 days of submitting?
I submit for a whole month....get a million page hits...and make $150....my bandwith costs me $300
1,000,000 hits and only $150????????
WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF are you doing?
post a gallery of yours
Well, that doesn't seem so wrong for me.... More like $300-$500 with 1,000,000 hits, but sometimes I guess it could happen ($150 from 1,000,000 hits).... It's not that strange....
How much does it seem ok from 1 million hits for you?
Well, that doesn't seem so wrong for me.... More like $300-$500 with 1,000,000 hits, but sometimes I guess it could happen ($150 from 1,000,000 hits).... It's not that strange....
How much does it seem ok from 1 million hits for you?
one thing that i dislike about some webmasters is the fact that they are afraid of competition. they won't help you but they will comment on all of your threads containing a question you have with this bullshit"there is no money in this industry." they seem a bit insecure about the money that they claim they are making. besides that this industry actually has some very unique personalities.
I dunno...now that I am done ranting, it occurs to me that my own personal preferances are influencing what I promote:
Cumshots disgust me.
I dislike "blacks on blondes"
Gay men disgust me.
Kinky/weird stuff doesn't turn me on.
Really nice softcore pleases me...and lesbians please me. Hmmmm....I guess that means that I am promoting pretty much the same thing that 10 gazillion other guys are promoting.
Originally posted by nap one thing that i dislike about some webmasters is the fact that they are afraid of competition. they won't help you but they will comment on all of your threads containing a question you have with this bullshit"there is no money in this industry." they seem a bit insecure about the money that they claim they are making. besides that this industry actually has some very unique personalities.
I must confess...
As much as I bitch about the fact that nobody will offer any help....the truth of the matter is that if I had the secrets, I would not reveal them either.
I can sort of live with that...but what pisses me off most is when a guy will take your money for....gallery spots...traffic...other services....knowing full well that you have little chance of making a profit on what you invested.
I dunno...now that I am done ranting, it occurs to me that my own personal preferances are influencing what I promote:
Cumshots disgust me.
I dislike "blacks on blondes"
Gay men disgust me.
Kinky/weird stuff doesn't turn me on.
Really nice softcore pleases me...and lesbians please me. Hmmmm....I guess that means that I am promoting pretty much the same thing that 10 gazillion other guys are promoting.
I think there is still money to be made with lesbians.... You just have to find the right places to promote it and you'll earn some nice $$$... I ain't telling where to look at tough....
Try pushing some lesbian galleries (with dildos please, not some lame ass softcore shit) to some big TGPs and you'll do better than the stats you posted here...
Maverick,
Although I think you are really hurting yourself by not promoting more niche areas, there is plenty of money to be made from teens and lesbians and straight hardcore sex.
I get about 2-3% click-through rate and do about 1:500 avg or better on pure tgp traffic, and I'm just learning the biz myself.
If you are willing, show us:
1)an example of your best gallery
2)your top 3 sponsors
3)your hosting company and what they charge
4)your source of content
5)your daily tasks to make money
I guarantee that if you nail down those 5 things you'll make some money.
I dunno...now that I am done ranting, it occurs to me that my own personal preferances are influencing what I promote:
Cumshots disgust me.
I dislike "blacks on blondes"
Gay men disgust me.
Kinky/weird stuff doesn't turn me on.
Really nice softcore pleases me...and lesbians please me. Hmmmm....I guess that means that I am promoting pretty much the same thing that 10 gazillion other guys are promoting.
maybe you should reconsider if this industry is right for you...
Originally posted by gornyhuy Maverick,
Although I think you are really hurting yourself by not promoting more niche areas, there is plenty of money to be made from teens and lesbians and straight hardcore sex.
I get about 2-3% click-through rate and do about 1:500 avg or better on pure tgp traffic, and I'm just learning the biz myself.
If you are willing, show us:
1)an example of your best gallery
2)your top 3 sponsors
3)your hosting company and what they charge
4)your source of content
5)your daily tasks to make money
I guarantee that if you nail down those 5 things you'll make some money.
I aint Maverick, but i'm having the same problem as him, only i've done it all: Running a tgp (just wouldn't grow, keeps going at 1k daily), submitted so friggin' much galleries it makes me sick (but still doing it though), did lots of niches (trannyhunter at 0:9000 tgp traffic anyone?), anything.
Here's the list though ;)
1) i'm too ashamed to show you guys.. really, none of my templates are hot and good, hey all plain suck. Should have about 5 fresh templates ready by the 15th though. Finally bought some of those
2) Nastydollars, Socalcash
3) Celly box at Rackshack currently pulling 0.5mbit/s for gallery traffic
4) Sponsors
5) Basically i build galleries (crap ones that is) and submit them. Did this for about 5 months now, and little result.
Also, bought about 500$ worth of gallery traffic, and sending it to nastydollars galleries. Converting about 1:1000 on that.
Any tips/hints on what to do? I'm working on a list of the big tgps to submit my new galleries (with the bought templates) to, and have numerous other thoughts on making money
I aint Maverick, but i'm having the same problem as him, only i've done it all: Running a tgp (just wouldn't grow, keeps going at 1k daily), submitted so friggin' much galleries it makes me sick (but still doing it though), did lots of niches (trannyhunter at 0:9000 tgp traffic anyone?), anything.
Here's the list though ;)
1) i'm too ashamed to show you guys.. really, none of my templates are hot and good, hey all plain suck. Should have about 5 fresh templates ready by the 15th though. Finally bought some of those
2) Nastydollars, Socalcash
3) Celly box at Rackshack currently pulling 0.5mbit/s for gallery traffic
4) Sponsors
5) Basically i build galleries (crap ones that is) and submit them. Did this for about 5 months now, and little result.
Also, bought about 500$ worth of gallery traffic, and sending it to nastydollars galleries. Converting about 1:1000 on that.
Any tips/hints on what to do? I'm working on a list of the big tgps to submit my new galleries (with the bought templates) to, and have numerous other thoughts on making money
gallery templates aren't that expensive... you can get good once for $20 - $25...
Im selling templates for $25... they aren't the best looking... but who gives a fuck they send good traffic to sponsors and convert.
Use more than 2 sponsors... and try using sponsors that not every n00b and his snoop doggy dog uses.
Where do you submit your galleries to...?
Check my previous post to see how to make some cash from galleries without doing too much.
gallery templates aren't that expensive... you can get good once for $20 - $25...
Im selling templates for $25... they aren't the best looking... but who gives a fuck they send good traffic to sponsors and convert.
Use more than 2 sponsors... and try using sponsors that not every n00b and his snoop doggy dog uses.
Where do you submit your galleries to...?
Check my previous post to see how to make some cash from galleries without doing too much.
It wasn't the fact that they were expensive or something, i just didn't see what the difference was, now i do though
I joined nastydollars because that was the first sponsor i found when i started in the biz (didn't know anything about it at that point, now i know they're overused )
I used gallerysubmitter.com for my bulk gallery submissions, and did some huge tgps (been on thehun for 4 times or so, but 0 signups).
Thanks for the info Oracle, brings a tear in my eye to see that a guy like you actually... helps...
It wasn't the fact that they were expensive or something, i just didn't see what the difference was, now i do though
I joined nastydollars because that was the first sponsor i found when i started in the biz (didn't know anything about it at that point, now i know they're overused )
I used gallerysubmitter.com for my bulk gallery submissions, and did some huge tgps (been on thehun for 4 times or so, but 0 signups).
Thanks for the info Oracle, brings a tear in my eye to see that a guy like you actually... helps...
If you say your galleries sucked how do you expect to make signups?
Try using a new sponsors...
buy content... check my sig... its not that expensive... you can choose only like 15 pics per set and pay like $1.25 of something for this set... pretty neat.
Thank try a submitting service and see how that goes.
If you say your galleries sucked how do you expect to make signups?
Try using a new sponsors...
buy content... check my sig... its not that expensive... you can choose only like 15 pics per set and pay like $1.25 of something for this set... pretty neat.
Thank try a submitting service and see how that goes.
Like i said, i've got 5 gallery templates being built at the moment. Let's wait for those to be finished and see how that goes.
Wich submit services do you reccomend?
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