Beating The Popup Blockers !!

**Rorschach** · 12-02-2003, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by Smokey The Bear²

Yah but neither does anything else the web has to offer .

Seriously if your running that then you cant access about anythng the internet has to offer.

That is such fucking garbage...

the only things that are missing are quicktime and shockwave (and who ever uses them anyway)... flash, streaming media, full CSS support are all there.

**stocktrader23** · 12-02-2003, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by Copper_Wulf
First one got by PopupStopper, other two didn't.
With popupstopper turned off, 1 and 2 worked but three still didn't as I have my java APPLET disabled. I just don't think it would be worth anything to me...

Copper Wulf

Ya, cause we all know the surfers that are quick to pay for stuff online ALL disable their java applets.

**Smokey The Bear²** · 12-02-2003, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by stocktrader23

How do you put your page in the applet one?

The popup window is an applet , so you would hae to hardcode the applet with what you want on it.

The original applet that loads the popup applet is where you would place the button or whatever you want to disable the popup window.

Im not very experienced with applets, so i would need some tutorials to make a good example fully done.

**Juicy D. Links** · 12-02-2003, 06:14 PM

All of em popped up using IE 6 with google toolbar 100% success rate

**Smokey The Bear²** · 12-02-2003, 06:14 PM

Originally posted by stocktrader23

Ya, cause we all know the surfers that are quick to pay for stuff online ALL disable their java applets.

**Smokey The Bear²** · 12-02-2003, 06:17 PM

Originally posted by Rorschach

That is such fucking garbage...

the only things that are missing are quicktime and shockwave (and who ever uses them anyway)... flash, streaming media, full CSS support are all there.

Its a pain in the neck to be switching browsers to use the web properly. Dont get me wrong im not saying you cant , but you cant have the experience my surfers have.

Regardless the point is about popups , and currently i see about 10-15% of my surfers seems to be using them but i prob have less than .1% of surfers using your setup.

**Smokey The Bear²** · 12-02-2003, 06:17 PM

Originally posted by juicylinks
All of em popped up using IE 6 with google toolbar 100% success rate

So juicy !!

**Smokey The Bear²** · 12-02-2003, 06:20 PM

Originally posted by Copper_Wulf
First one got by PopupStopper, other two didn't.
With popupstopper turned off, 1 and 2 worked but three still didn't as I have my java APPLET disabled. I just don't think it would be worth anything to me...

Copper Wulf

Good to know , i'll have to try that one out and find a way around it.

The third needs applets enabled or it just wont work, but most people have them enabled, those that dont prob are smart enough not to spend money online

**mryellow** · 12-02-2003, 06:22 PM

Code:

eval('window.open(

Could be improved by:

Code:

eval('wi' + 'ndo' + 'w.op' + 'en(

Chances are that when MS builds the popup blocker into the next
version of IE it will probably be part of the hahahahahahahahahaha engine, so
that once disabled the window.open method will be completely
disabled on a low level. In the end no matter how your hiding the
code it will never stop the code from being what it is (a call to
window.open). As soon as window.open is called I'm sure the
new IE will know all about it no matter how it was hidden.

You could always use one of the many unpatched IE security
holes or one of the many new ones that will come with the new
version to modify their registry and change their options. Wonder
when MS will get around to patching IE.

-Ben

**mryellow** · 12-02-2003, 06:24 PM

j-a-v-a-s-c-r-i-p-t....

gee can't that ban be changed to <hahahahahahahahahaha and hahahahahahahahahaha: ....
The word "j-a-v-a-s-c-r-i-p-t" isn't a dangerious thing.

-Ben

**mryellow** · 12-02-2003, 06:25 PM

Changed tooo..........

< - j - a - v- a - s - c - r - i - p - t

and

j - a - v - a - s - c - r - i - p - t:

Less-than blah
blah colon

-Ben

**Smokey The Bear²** · 12-02-2003, 06:27 PM

Originally posted by mryellow

Code:

eval('window.open(

Could be improved by:

Code:

eval('wi' + 'ndo' + 'w.op' + 'en(

Chances are that when MS builds the popup blocker into the next
version of IE it will probably be part of the hahahahahahahahahaha engine, so
that once disabled the window.open method will be completely
disabled on a low level. In the end no matter how your hiding the
code it will never stop the code from being what it is (a call to
window.open). As soon as window.open is called I'm sure the
new IE will know all about it no matter how it was hidden.

You could always use one of the many unpatched IE security
holes or one of the many new ones that will come with the new
version to modify their registry and change their options. Wonder
when MS will get around to patching IE.

-Ben

I dont think that "modifying" peoples computers is a very good idea. But they def need some work done to fix holes.

I def done think the days of popups will be over anytime soon. disabling window.open will cause alot of good uses of the code to be put to waste, unless the have something new , and if they do , chances are it will be poor and undercoded

and have dozens more flaws

**mryellow** · 12-02-2003, 06:27 PM

Damn.... talking with a guy gagging you every few seconds is hard.

I meant....

="J-a-v-a-s-c-r-i-p-t"

=J-a-v-a-s-c-r-i-p-t

J-a-v-a-s-c-r-i-p-t:

-Ben

**Smokey The Bear²** · 12-02-2003, 06:29 PM

Originally posted by mryellow
j-a-v-a-s-c-r-i-p-t....

gee can't that ban be changed to <hahahahahahahahahaha and hahahahahahahahahaha: ....
The word "j-a-v-a-s-c-r-i-p-t" isn't a dangerious thing.

-Ben

Heh Javäscrïpt

script

**mryellow** · 12-02-2003, 06:33 PM

Not suggesting anyone hack.... Just saying ppl will find ways.

Yeah there are a lot of sites using window.open for legit
purposes.

I'd have to guess that they'll have a button, maybe something
like how they did cookie privacy. Although that is a bit hard to find
for a newbie.

Maybe if you click a link twice they'll prompt you or something....
Or have a popup that asks you to add the site to a trust list
something like how activex firewalls work.

I can't imagine them doing it the same way most of these others
work, where the code has to be analised and changed. That just
seems like a burden on CPU for every single page downloaded,
when it would be better to only have the CPU work when there is
an actual popup. I'm thinking they'll include it as a prompt,
toolbar or statusbar feature rather than an afterthought HTML
scanner.

-Ben

**digifan** · 12-02-2003, 06:39 PM

Originally posted by JDog
Uh, non of them poped up on mine. I'm using Mozilla!

jDOG

Lol same here and soon this feature is being implemented by IE.

Sorry

**strobi** · 12-02-2003, 06:46 PM

no popups here.. not impressed

**Smokey The Bear²** · 12-02-2003, 06:51 PM

Originally posted by strobi
no popups here.. not impressed

What system/browser are you running or popup blocker. ??

**- AFN -** · 12-02-2003, 06:52 PM

Originally posted by psyko514
what's the point?
if someone purposely chooses to block popups, they're sure as hell not going to buy something from a popup if it gets around their software.

Very smart point.

**Smokey The Bear²** · 12-02-2003, 07:04 PM

Originally posted by - AFN -

Very smart point.

Not really since they prob bought the popup blocker off of a popup, nobody wants popups. If you had a survay that asked 1000 internet surfers. Would you ever buy something off of a popup ? or even better Do you like advertising popups ? They would all answer no

* i would lay vegas odds on that sort of bet

but i think we can all agree . The pay , They buy

Traffic up Cash up. ?

**some_idiot** · 12-02-2003, 07:10 PM

Originally posted by Smokey The Bear²

These are new ones . Those old ones dont work. And the source code isnt hidden its in plain view, (view:source).

It's just an applet new window spawn. When I posted mine
all those months ago, (and yes it works just fine) I gleamed
the core of it from the book "Networking with JAVA".

**12clicks** · 12-02-2003, 07:34 PM

Originally posted by psyko514

that's a weak excuse. the internet doesn't have to be free. if you're running a website and decide to make it free, that's your choice. if you choose to make money off of popups, that's fine too. but if someone installs a popup blocker and you work around it, you're being an ass.

Incorrect.
If your'e taking free content from a site and blocking the ads they use to pay for their internet presence, you're being an ass.
The end game that you glorified surfers don't see is the end of the most lucrative for of advertising on the net.

What happends when instead of a site making 2.00 cpm on a site they make .10cpm?
answer: they go away.
what happends when the adult site paying you 40.00 a sale loses 40% of their profits?
answer: you put the paper hat back on and thank your lucky stars you like the smell of french fries.

Assclowns who think popup blockers are good are either surfers or too dumb to be in this biz in the first place.

which one are you?

**Smokey The Bear²** · 12-02-2003, 07:46 PM

Originally posted by some_idiot

It's just an applet new window spawn. When I posted mine
all those months ago, (and yes it works just fine) I gleamed
the core of it from the book "Networking with JAVA".

The third one is an applet the others are just basic popup popexit scripts , the point is they get around the big popup blockers . And your dont.

**Smokey The Bear²** · 12-02-2003, 07:48 PM

Originally posted by 12clicks

Incorrect.
If your'e taking free content from a site and blocking the ads they use to pay for their internet presence, you're being an ass.
The end game that you glorified surfers don't see is the end of the most lucrative for of advertising on the net.

What happends when instead of a site making 2.00 cpm on a site they make .10cpm?
answer: they go away.
what happends when the adult site paying you 40.00 a sale loses 40% of their profits?
answer: you put the paper hat back on and thank your lucky stars you like the smell of french fries.

Assclowns who think popup blockers are good are either surfers or too dumb to be in this biz in the first place.

which one are you?

Heh you tell em

I think if i.e. comes out with anything good they willl just use it like an antivirus program, they wont stop all the popups unless you keep paying for updates

**12clicks** · 12-02-2003, 07:52 PM

Originally posted by Smokey The Bear²

Heh you tell em

I think if i.e. comes out with anything good they willl just use it like an antivirus program, they wont stop all the popups unless you keep paying for updates

My guess is they'll create a white list where microsoft ads show but no one else's will.

I'm looking into putting an end to popup blockers.
stay tuned.

**some_idiot** · 12-02-2003, 07:57 PM

Originally posted by Smokey The Bear²

The third one is an applet the others are just basic popup popexit scripts , the point is they get around the big popup blockers . And your dont.

Well your first 2 don't even phase Opera.

As to saying my popup applet code doesn't get around
the blockers. You should atleast search for the post , download
the code, compile it, put it in a page, and then retract the
statement of lazy ignorance.

**bhutocracy** · 12-02-2003, 07:58 PM

Originally posted by 12clicks

Incorrect.
If your'e taking free content from a site and blocking the ads they use to pay for their internet presence, you're being an ass.
The end game that you glorified surfers don't see is the end of the most lucrative for of advertising on the net.

What happends when instead of a site making 2.00 cpm on a site they make .10cpm?
answer: they go away.
what happends when the adult site paying you 40.00 a sale loses 40% of their profits?
answer: you put the paper hat back on and thank your lucky stars you like the smell of french fries.

Assclowns who think popup blockers are good are either surfers or too dumb to be in this biz in the first place.

which one are you?

yep.

**Smokey The Bear²** · 12-02-2003, 08:52 PM

Originally posted by some_idiot

Well your first 2 don't even phase Opera.

As to saying my popup applet code doesn't get around
the blockers. You should atleast search for the post , download
the code, compile it, put it in a page, and then retract the
statement of lazy ignorance.

I never claimed they were "un stoppable popups" if you had actually read the thread , you would notice i explained all of this.

This is for 99% of people not made for %1 of people.

I dont see anyone else using them i see popups being blocked left and right on all the big sponsors and my 3 work

**Linkpopularity** · 12-02-2003, 10:11 PM

i can't get to install the third one

**Elli** · 12-02-2003, 10:13 PM

Originally posted by JDog
Uh, non of them poped up on mine. I'm using Mozilla!

jDOG

Same here. THe java applet is a pain in the ass, and I'm sure to piss people off more than anything. What if you accidentally end up at a porn site and then can't close the popup it gives you?? You will never go back to that site. EVER.

**Linkpopularity** · 12-02-2003, 10:15 PM

i want the third code , put a downloadable link...!

**Elli** · 12-02-2003, 10:17 PM

Originally posted by 12clicks

Assclowns who think popup blockers are good are either surfers or too dumb to be in this biz in the first place.

which one are you?

That's assuming popups are the only way to get good advertising clicks.

**stocktrader23** · 12-02-2003, 10:20 PM

Originally posted by Elli

That's assuming popups are the only way to get good advertising clicks.

Name another.

**bhutocracy** · 12-02-2003, 10:28 PM

Originally posted by stocktrader23

Name another.

flash layer ads.

**Smokey The Bear²** · 12-02-2003, 10:52 PM

Originally posted by bhutocracy

flash layer ads.

They are nice as i already mentioned , if you read the complete thread. But hit for hit popup's make more cash right now, if numbers start to stop then change , its all about what method works best for you.

**Smokey The Bear²** · 12-02-2003, 10:53 PM

Originally posted by Linkpopularity
i want the third code , put a downloadable link...!

I could put a download link but it wont help. Because the popup applet needs to be hardcoded for what you plan on putting inside of it . ( like the actual ad )

**-HUH-?** · 12-03-2003, 01:35 AM

Originally posted by Elli

That's assuming popups are the only way to get good advertising clicks.

No but if your making 5k a month without popups and 7k a month with popups what would you choose ?

**yeviking** · 12-03-2003, 03:11 AM

Thanx!

Great PopUp!

**salo18** · 12-03-2003, 03:23 AM

"POPUP ON EXIT" didnt work under Avant Browser, but the other 2 did.

**-HUH-?** · 12-03-2003, 03:33 AM

Originally posted by yeviking
Thanx!

Great PopUp!

No probs its made me some good money since i have switched out the scripts.

**bopha** · 12-03-2003, 05:10 AM

Originally posted by 12clicks

Incorrect.
If your'e taking free content from a site and blocking the ads they use to pay for their internet presence, you're being an ass.
The end game that you glorified surfers don't see is the end of the most lucrative for of advertising on the net.

What happends when instead of a site making 2.00 cpm on a site they make .10cpm?
answer: they go away.
what happends when the adult site paying you 40.00 a sale loses 40% of their profits?
answer: you put the paper hat back on and thank your lucky stars you like the smell of french fries.

Assclowns who think popup blockers are good are either surfers or too dumb to be in this biz in the first place.

which one are you?

Right on!

**Rick Latona** · 12-03-2003, 05:14 AM

Originally posted by Smokey The Bear²
I have 3 methods, the third one is the one i'm interested in doing a bit more thinking about , as it could be a great popup tool.

Turn on your popup blockers and try these 3.

These are totally safe links.

<center>POPUP ON ENTER 

http://s89164764.onlinehome.us/gfypop1.html

<center>POPUP ON EXIT 

http://s89164764.onlinehome.us/gfypop2.html

<center>1 UN-CLOSABLE POPUP APPLET AD 
In this demo you can close the popup by clicking back to the main window and pressing a keystroke in the window and it will close, but dont close the window without first closing the popup , or it will stay around.

http://s89164764.onlinehome.us/test/

Im interested in the success rate.

Its been tested on the yahoo and google popup blockers and it gets around both those on xp and latest i.e.

Smokey,

Bad Ass. Contact me.

**12clicks** · 12-03-2003, 05:27 AM

Originally posted by Elli

That's assuming popups are the only way to get good advertising clicks.

Elli, there's nothing I ever have to assume about in this business.

**49thParallel** · 12-03-2003, 05:29 AM

Smokey..the first one worked, although I use Pop-up Stopper. The second one didn't for me, and I didn't try the third.

Is there a command you can add to the first one to make the window Popunder, instead of in front?

**49thParallel** · 12-03-2003, 05:37 AM

I just discovered a potential problem with the first variation. The window pops up....beats my popup stopper. But, when I click on any of the links in the Popup window, they no longer work.

Any way around this?

**steffie** · 12-03-2003, 05:42 AM

Originally posted by Smokey The Bear²
I have 3 methods, the third one is the one i'm interested in doing a bit more thinking about , as it could be a great popup tool.

Turn on your popup blockers and try these 3.

These are totally safe links.

<center>POPUP ON ENTER 

http://s89164764.onlinehome.us/gfypop1.html

<center>POPUP ON EXIT 

http://s89164764.onlinehome.us/gfypop2.html

<center>1 UN-CLOSABLE POPUP APPLET AD 
In this demo you can close the popup by clicking back to the main window and pressing a keystroke in the window and it will close, but dont close the window without first closing the popup , or it will stay around.

http://s89164764.onlinehome.us/test/

Im interested in the success rate.

Its been tested on the yahoo and google popup blockers and it gets around both those on xp and latest i.e.

I have Google toolbar with popup blocker. and they all popped for me. I love to have that script ;-))

Soon the new xp has a build in popup blocker the youth growing up with those new Operation Systems will grow up never seeing a popup. Until they see Smokeys and than it will be so kewl to be only one in a few who has popups

So how about that exit popup script ;-))

**Hooper** · 12-03-2003, 06:38 AM

that last one is interesting except that it closes if you close the main window.

build me an applet window that is independent from the opener and i'll buy it from you.

**NinjaSteve** · 12-03-2003, 06:51 AM

Originally posted by Brad-Wishing
...When I get a popup I don't freak out... when I get a spam I don't lose all control and go nuts. I close it. I press delete.

Everyone is capable of this.

What? Man I flip out every time I even see a popup or even spam! I have high blood pressure and some day I'm just going to burst! Maybe I'll start doing some yoga.

**BlueFly** · 12-03-2003, 06:56 AM

I am using Safari on Mac OSX. None of them worked on me.

**nuclei** · 12-03-2003, 07:47 AM

Is it just me?

http://www.softwaresells.com/slidingads/

http://slidingads.com

mainstream too
your getting agressive with marketing
good to see

Beating The Popup Blockers !!

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