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6 Cops vs. 400lb Man at White Castle Restaurant

12-01-2003, 11:41 AM

http://www.local6.com/news/2672416/detail.html

This is one of those " It's so fucked up it's gotta be real " stories WITH video.

Cops show up to a White Castle where a 400lb dude is going postal for some reason. Altercation-dude subdued-dead dude-cops in trouble.

All that over a burger...
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12-01-2003, 11:47 AM

Attack the police and they will come at you with force until you are subdued. Is it really that hard to understand for these "innocent" Blacks?

Well, at least we can take comfort in the fact that if they riot, their astounding level of intelligence will lead them to harm themselves and their own communities.

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12-01-2003, 11:49 AM

The dumb fuck was high on cocaine and angel dust. He weighed 400 lbs. He attacked the cops. He deserved to have his ass beat...white or black.
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12-01-2003, 11:50 AM

i can´t understand whats so horrible about this?

this guy attacked the cops. they had to bring him down . however !!
Better kill the gangster then get killed.

here in germany it´s different .
run or get killed but don´t touch the criminal

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12-01-2003, 11:54 AM

Quote of the day:

Black activists say the death Sunday of Nathaniel Jones, 41, was another example of police doing little or nothing to stop deaths of black men in encounters with police in recent years. The fatal shooting of an unarmed black man by a white police officer in April 2001 prompted three nights of rioting in Cincinnati.

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12-01-2003, 11:54 AM

Originally posted by jennym
The dumb fuck was high on cocaine and angel dust. He weighed 400 lbs. He attacked the cops. He deserved to have his ass beat...white or black.

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12-01-2003, 11:56 AM

The officers did what they were supposed to do. I am getting tired of this shit myself.

Just recently out this way an 18 year old Hispanic Male started shooting at cops after a brief auto chase. The police officers returned fire wounding the young man pretty bad (he is still alive). The next day his parents are on the news saying the officers used excessive force and that they should have just "shot the gun out of his hand" not shooting him several times. They are making a huge deal out of it.

Who the fuck do they think they are. Your kid shoots at cops and of course the officers were white so it turns into excessive force for firing back. Such ignorance sickens me.

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12-01-2003, 11:57 AM

That man punched a police officer. Looks like a by the book arrest to me. I can't belive they treated the officers as suspects
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12-01-2003, 11:59 AM

But they killed him. He didn't take a knife or gun to them, he just took a few swings at the officers. I don't think he deserved to die. If he punches a cop, he gets punched. If he tries to kill a cop and they kill him, then THAT is necessary force. But it didn't look to me like he was trying to kill the cops. He didn't even have a weapon.
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12-01-2003, 12:01 PM

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The next day his parents are on the news saying the officers used excessive force and that they should have just "shot the gun out of his hand"

Yeah, why not? It works in the movies!

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12-01-2003, 12:01 PM

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The officers did what they were supposed to do. I am getting tired of this shit myself.

Just recently out this way an 18 year old Hispanic Male started shooting at cops after a brief auto chase. The police officers returned fire wounding the young man pretty bad (he is still alive). The next day his parents are on the news saying the officers used excessive force and that they should have just "shot the gun out of his hand" not shooting him several times. They are making a huge deal out of it.

Who the fuck do they think they are. Your kid shoots at cops and of course the officers were white so it turns into excessive force for firing back. Such ignorance sickens me.

Shoot the gun out of his hand? That's hilarious. Seriously, that's the funniest thing I've heard all day!

I would have killed the fucker.

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12-01-2003, 12:01 PM

this is clearly police abuse
they still giving him a couple of hits AFTER he was on the floor and unable to continue to fight anyway
send thoses fuckers in jail

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12-01-2003, 12:02 PM

Originally posted by tootie
But they killed him. He didn't take a knife or gun to them, he just took a few swings at the officers. I don't think he deserved to die. If he punches a cop, he gets punched. If he tries to kill a cop and they kill him, then THAT is necessary force. But it didn't look to me like he was trying to kill the cops. He didn't even have a weapon.

There's a difference between intentionally killing and someone dying after a scuffle. The guy died in the hospital. The cops didn't try to kill the guy.

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12-01-2003, 12:03 PM

Originally posted by tootie
But they killed him. He didn't take a knife or gun to them, he just took a few swings at the officers. I don't think he deserved to die. If he punches a cop, he gets punched. If he tries to kill a cop and they kill him, then THAT is necessary force. But it didn't look to me like he was trying to kill the cops. He didn't even have a weapon.

those cops could never of known that what they did would kill that man. That was not there intent, that is obvious. I have hit people a lot worse than that when I was an officer.
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12-01-2003, 12:04 PM

Originally posted by skillfull
this is clearly police abuse
they still giving him a couple of hits AFTER he was on the floor and unable to continue to fight anyway
send thoses fuckers in jail

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12-01-2003, 12:06 PM

@ skillfull

have you ever tryed to get a 400 lbs man down?

i wouldn´t risk to test if he can still stand up. this one rises 3 or 4 times. better one unnecessary punch and be sure he is stays down than stop punching and find out he still has enough power to knock you out or even worse...
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12-01-2003, 12:06 PM

if they were trying to kill the fucker, they'd have thrown a few head shots his way.
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12-01-2003, 12:06 PM

You know damn well if he were White or Asian he would not have been beaten like that.

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12-01-2003, 12:06 PM

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12-01-2003, 12:07 PM

Its funny the cops are on leave after the guy died... did anyone think to consider that maybe a 400 lb guy getting and harsh excercise like that is likely to die from massive heart failure?

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12-01-2003, 12:08 PM

Originally posted by skillfull
this is clearly police abuse
they still giving him a couple of hits AFTER he was on the floor and unable to continue to fight anyway
send thoses fuckers in jail

He wasnt restrained yet. You can see they are trying to get his arms behind his back. He was obviously not complying. At that point of the scuffle he could have pulled out a weapon or anything. He was not "unable to fight" he was still struggling and not restrained. Watch the video again.

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12-01-2003, 12:10 PM

Originally posted by boneprone
You know damn well if he were White or Asian he would not have been beaten like that.

neighbor dude across the street punched a cop who was trying to cuff him, and got maced and his ass handed to him by 3 other cops, while the dudes father was yelling at him.. "that's what you get tough guy".

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12-01-2003, 12:10 PM

They hit him in the head over and over. Hitting people in the head with weapons has been known to cause death. I feel terrible for the guy's family
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12-01-2003, 12:11 PM

Who says the beating even caused his death? We don't know that. He was a fucking druggie with an enlarged heart. BUT, even if the beating killed him....TO FUCKING BAD!!! Put your hands behind your back when you are told and none of that will happen.

One of my little brother's friends got his ass beat by the cops once. (yes, he was white, can you believe that?) He is a cocky little fucker who tried to fight with the cops. He got his ass beat, we all told him he deserved it, and life went on.
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12-01-2003, 12:12 PM

Holy shit, that guy took a beating!

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12-01-2003, 12:14 PM

Originally posted by tootie
They hit him in the head over and over. Hitting people in the head with weapons has been known to cause death. I feel terrible for the guy's family

Fighting with cops has been known to cause death.

Some 400 pound guy starts attacking you and a friend, you're going to sit back for a quick time out "gee Shirley, I'm trying to be ever so careful so that I don't hit his head, we must play fair." You have more balls than me!

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12-01-2003, 12:14 PM

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The officers did what they were supposed to do.

dunno about that.. were they supposed to kill the man just cos he attacked the cops with bare hands? That one police officer seemed to be beating out of some kinda vengence too!

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12-01-2003, 12:14 PM

Originally posted by tootie
They hit him in the head over and over. Hitting people in the head with weapons has been known to cause death. I feel terrible for the guy's family

it still appalls me people think like you.. Try joining the military or a police force and see what these people deal with on a day to day basis
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12-01-2003, 12:17 PM

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12-01-2003, 12:17 PM

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You know damn well if he were White or Asian he would not have been beaten like that.

Sorry, I've got to disagree with you on that. I was a reserve deputy sheriff with the maricop county S.O. If a guy that big is coming at you, you don't give a damn what color he is, you just want him down and subdued before he has a chance to hurt you, kill you, or take your weapon and kill others too. It happened to me a couple of times and couldn't have cared less what color they were.

I watched the video and those cops were performing TEXTBOOK strikes with their batons in order to put the guy down and NOT kill him. They never went for the head, or the elbows or knees (which will main you for life), and they did the job EXACTLY as they were supposed to. Cops are NOT paid to get beaton and killed, they are paid to protect us from crazy fuckers like that.

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12-01-2003, 12:18 PM

Originally posted by seven

dunno about that.. were they supposed to kill the man just cos he attacked the cops with bare hands? That one police officer seemed to be beating out of some kinda vengence too!

He died in police custody but not at the scene. A drugged up 400 pound man not complying with law enforcement and struggling for so long can die from many reasons.

He needs to be restrained. What are they supposed to do let him go crazy and harm innocent people or themselves?

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12-01-2003, 12:18 PM

They hit him in the head over and over. Hitting people in the head with weapons has been known to cause death. I feel terrible for the guy's family

infact the next time some 400lb man starts beating your ass I hope the cops try everything else before using force to get him off you

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12-01-2003, 12:19 PM

What suprises me the most, is this:

Most of the people who want to pull our troops out of Iraq because they are dying, never give a second thought to our police officers who die or put their lives on the line every day! So, I guess we should pull our cops out of the ghettos too huh?

If some druggie comes in my house, and goes crazy like that, I have the right to shoot and kill him. But we expect officers to go to where the druggie is out of control, and when they are attacked, they should be careful not to hit him in the head?? That is totally fucked up!!
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12-01-2003, 12:19 PM

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12-01-2003, 12:20 PM

Originally posted by xanx
infact the next time some 400lb man starts beating your ass I hope the cops try everything else before using force to get him off you

Hey, as long as the perp walks away clean, I see no problem with it... I'll take that beating!

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12-01-2003, 12:21 PM

Originally posted by xanx
infact the next time some 400lb man starts beating your ass I hope the cops try everything else before using force to get him off you

I agree.. make sure they try to "reason" and "talk things out" with your attacker. No need to try to hurt him. You can handle the beating in the mean time.

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12-01-2003, 12:21 PM

Even cowboys in the old west thought it was wrong to kill an unarmed man. God, I can't believe that there are people who don't think this was excessive!
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12-01-2003, 12:22 PM

Originally posted by Furious_Male

I agree.. make sure they try to "reason" and "talk things out" with your attacker. No need to try to hurt him. You can handle the beating in the mean time.

Apparently becoming a cop means it's ok to get your ass kicked without doing anything in return.

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12-01-2003, 12:23 PM

Originally posted by tootie
Even cowboys in the old west thought it was wrong to kill an unarmed man. God, I can't believe that there are people who don't think this was excessive!

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12-01-2003, 12:23 PM

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infact the next time some 400lb man starts beating your ass I hope the cops try everything else before using force to get him off you

I'd rather die than be the cause of someone else's death. I've even told my husband that if I'm ever murdered to ask the DA NOT to consider the death penalty on my behalf.
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12-01-2003, 12:24 PM

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Even cowboys in the old west thought it was wrong to kill an unarmed man. God, I can't believe that there are people who don't think this was excessive!

I would be willing to guess that you have never in your life had to stand up to a REALLY big guy who is trying to beat your head in, not just run away, but actually have it be up to you to not only take it, but to put him down and make him stop. Maybe I'm wrong here? Perhaps you have?

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12-01-2003, 12:25 PM

Originally posted by tootie
Even cowboys in the old west thought it was wrong to kill an unarmed man. God, I can't believe that there are people who don't think this was excessive!

From what you've seen from the video, did Cincinnati police act appropriately to subdue Nathaniel Jones?
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12-01-2003, 12:26 PM

Originally posted by tootie
Even cowboys in the old west thought it was wrong to kill an unarmed man. God, I can't believe that there are people who don't think this was excessive!

nobody said they wanted or tryed to kill him. that he dies is bad but thats better than he could hurt one of the cops. and if you belive it or not...

a 400 lb´s man on drugs is as good a weapon..
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12-01-2003, 12:26 PM

why they just dont have kicked him in the nuts ?
effective and non-lethal way to put anyone down, even if he is in furia and weight 400lbs

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12-01-2003, 12:26 PM

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Even cowboys in the old west thought it was wrong to kill an unarmed man. God, I can't believe that there are people who don't think this was excessive!

I think the point is: They didn't try to kill him!!! You don't even know if the beating did kill him.

Just because he was unarmed doesn't mean anything! A 400 lb. man can kill you without a weapon. Also, if you watch the video, you will see him trying to take the cops baton away from him. Then he would have been armed.

Bottom line...he got what he fucking deserved!
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12-01-2003, 12:26 PM

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Even cowboys in the old west thought it was wrong to kill an unarmed man. God, I can't believe that there are people who don't think this was excessive!

and BTW, in the "old west" the most common way a gunfight worked was that one guy sneaked up behind the other guy and shot him in the back with no warning.

Stop watching so many movies and start learning some actual history

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12-01-2003, 12:27 PM

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I'd rather die than be the cause of someone else's death. I've even told my husband that if I'm ever murdered to ask the DA NOT to consider the death penalty on my behalf.

you have lived a sheltered existence... you would rather die than fight for your life? Thank god our troops don't think like you... idoit...
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12-01-2003, 12:30 PM

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